So about Scala Ad Caelum...

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2 minutes ago, clatter411 said:

If the Keyblade Graveyard is related to Scala ad Caelum I really hope time travel is not involved. Time travel has created a lot of problems in this series since DDD. I hope instead it's just a restoration via Kingdom Hearts. 

Sort of like what Aqua did with Land of Departure and turning it into CO? 

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Just now, ienzo628 said:

Sort of like what Aqua did with Land of Departure and turning it into CO? 

Sort of? I got the impression when Aqua transformed the Land of Departure that it was something past keyblade masters had developed for that world alone. But then again that's just an impression. 

Using kingdom hearts seems like the better option especially since we know that Master Xehanort is going to summon it. 

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6 minutes ago, clatter411 said:

If the Keyblade Graveyard is related to Scala ad Caelum I really hope time travel is not involved. Time travel has created a lot of problems in this series since DDD. I hope instead it's just a restoration via Kingdom Hearts. 

I highly doubt we'll be time travelling in kh3 for a single world. Unless scala ad caelum is just for the final boss or something.

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1 minute ago, Potato head harvey said:

I highly doubt we'll be time traveling in kh3 for a single world. Unless scala ad caelum is just for the final boss or something.

Maybe like the world being set in the future and Sora somehow gets sucked into the future for that world and has to beat Xehanort and the Seekers just to return to his own time.  That sounds like the plot for Samurai Jack.

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9 minutes ago, ienzo628 said:

Maybe like the world being set in the future and Sora somehow gets sucked into the future for that world and has to beat Xehanort and the Seekers just to return to his own time.  That sounds like the plot for Samurai Jack.

So sora can just freely go back to his time whenever and go back to the past just for one world? That don't sound like something they would do.

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1 minute ago, Potato head harvey said:

So sora can just freely go back to his time whenever and go back to the past just for one world? That don't sound like something they would do.

He could remain stuck in Scala Ad Caelum until he defeated Xehanort.  I would like to see how Nomura handles Scala Ad Caelum.

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Just now, ienzo628 said:

He could remain stuck in Scala Ad Caelum until he defeated Xehanort.  I would like to see how Nomura handles Scala Ad Caelum.

So after credits role you can freely visit the world and stuff? Could work i guess.

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1 minute ago, Potato head harvey said:

So after credits role you can freely visit the world and stuff? Could work i guess.

It's possible but I doubt it.  It might be similar to KH2 where you have to go in front of the door and talk to Riku or Mickey before going behind that door to confront Xemnas.

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1 minute ago, ienzo628 said:

It's possible but I doubt it.  It might be similar to KH2 where you have to go in front of the door and talk to Riku or Mickey before going behind that door to confront Xemnas.

Except behind the door is an entire world? If they do it like that then there probably won't be chests and random encounters. At that point it might as well not even be called a world in my opinion.

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2 minutes ago, Potato head harvey said:

Except behind the door is an entire world? If they do it like that then there probably won't be chests and random encounters. At that point it might as well not even be called a world in my opinion.

Maybe dimension is a more fitting word.

 

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3 minutes ago, ienzo628 said:

Maybe dimension is a more fitting word.

 

I see where you're going with this but I don't think that'll be the case. Though to be fair nothing would surprise me when Nomura is concerned. 

We already had time travel and it screwed things up plus it makes things more complicated. Adding the concept of dimensions is similar to time travel in that it complicates things overly. 

The way I see it Scala ad Caelum is going to be either the final world, or Xehanort transforms the Keyblade Graveyard into Scala ad Caelum sometime mid game so there's a chance to explore it. 

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2 minutes ago, clatter411 said:

I see where you're going with this but I don't think that'll be the case. Though to be fair nothing would surprise me when Nomura is concerned. 

We already had time travel and it screwed things up plus it makes things more complicated. Adding the concept of dimensions is similar to time travel in that it complicates things overly. 

The way I see it Scala ad Caelum is going to be either the final world, or Xehanort transforms the Keyblade Graveyard into Scala ad Caelum sometime mid game so there's a chance to explore it. 

Though how Xehanort was able to transform the Keyblade Graveyard into Scala Ad Caelum.  Maybe Sora was sort of the key to activating the Scala Ad Caelum transformation, he was the only one we saw facing off against Xehanort and the other twelve Seekers.

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1 hour ago, ienzo628 said:

Though how Xehanort was able to transform the Keyblade Graveyard into Scala Ad Caelum.  Maybe Sora was sort of the key to activating the Scala Ad Caelum transformation, he was the only one we saw facing off against Xehanort and the other twelve Seekers.

The question is when was Scala Ad Caelum created? I'm trying to figure out if it was just always there or restored.

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6 minutes ago, Chasm said:

The question is when was Scala Ad Caelum created? I'm trying to figure out if it was just always there or restored.

That's a good question.  Is it Kingdom Hearts itself?

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So if scala ad caelum is a past version of the keyblade graveyard, wouldn't that date it to before unchained x?

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10 minutes ago, Potato head harvey said:

So if scala ad caelum is a past version of the keyblade graveyard, wouldn't that date it to before unchained x?

Perhaps so, the story of UX is puzzling.  We don't know how the Keyblade Graveyard came into being nor MX's obsession with it.

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4 hours ago, Potato head harvey said:

So if scala ad caelum is a past version of the keyblade graveyard, wouldn't that date it to before unchained x?

That's what I was thinking. Xehanort said something like "What was once" meaning this place is old...OLD.

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Has anyone noticed that Scala as Caelum looks similar to the fortress on Vanishing Isle except there are more buildings, windmills everywhere and the roofs are purple and not gold?

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3 minutes ago, ienzo628 said:

Has anyone noticed that Scala as Caelum looks similar to the fortress on Vanishing Isle except there are more buildings, windmills everywhere and the roofs are purple and not gold?

Vanishing Isle?

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14 minutes ago, Chasm said:

Vanishing Isle?

Don't they look sorta similar?

Edited December 22, 2018 by ienzo628

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1 minute ago, ienzo628 said:

 

We damn then yeah I can see the resemblance lol.

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1 minute ago, Chasm said:

We damn then yeah I can see the resemblance lol.

I noticed that Scala Ad Caelum has windmills on each of its level.  I don't know if that means anything. 

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5 minutes ago, ienzo628 said:

I noticed that Scala Ad Caelum has windmills on each of its level.  I don't know if that means anything. 

As of right now i dont think so...

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1 hour ago, Chasm said:

As of right now i dont think so...

I just wonder why they are there.

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On 12/22/2018 at 2:57 AM, ienzo628 said:

I just wonder why they are there.

Eh...maybe they use it as an energy source lol