Why Xemnas can't wield a keyblade.

[Keyblader 325]

 

Well, I know she can't bring her armor back. I was just saying that the armor is in the COR because of the same reason as the Keyblade.

And yes, there is no evidence of it because we only get a 5 minute glance of her in "Blank Points". We don't know what she did between BBS and the secret ending. It is just speculation, I guess.

 

Yeah, exactly. I also just remembered that in FM+ there's a scene where Xigbar says he's heard a voice answer Xemnas in the chamber, so maybe she found a way to communicate with Xemnas through her Keyblade and that's why she's leaving it; I never thought of that until now.

 

Lingering Sentiments just have that way of doing things like that. In Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix +, the secret boss, Terra's Lingering Sentiment, is able to communicate with Sora to a limited extent. Notice how in Birth By Sleep, when Terranort is hindered by Terra's Lingering Sentiment, he says: "Your body submits, your heart succumbs, so why does your mind resist?" That is what a Lingering Sentiment is basically, but not literally their mind. It is the bastion of a remaining purpose that the person couldn't carry out. A Lingering Sentiment holds a purpose for itself, a goal. Terra's Lingering Sentiment wanted to find Xehanort, Aqua's Lingering Sentiment wanted to help Terra and Ventus, but it is unknown what Vanitas' Lingering Sentiment's purpose was. You can tell by what they talk about. Xemnas gets info on his previous self Terra from Aqua's LS and about the other friend Ventus who is in the Chamber of Awakening in CO. Terra's LS reveals his feud with Xehanort to a small extent. The unaccomplished goal of the person is usually carried out by a LS, and that is basically all the LS ever concentrates on.

[Codeman1346 2]

Whether or not other people have their keyblades makes no difference, as seen in the case of Sora and Riku. So long as they can still wield a keyblade, they can always call it back to them. And so Reversal was correct when she spoke of their hearts. Since all three hearts are present, all three keyblades would be accessible.

 

Actually they can't be used as proof of this. The KEYBLADE chose it's wielder during those switches. It Chose to be with Riku because he had stronger heart at the time, because of Sora's doubt, and because Riku was the initial chosen wielder. Then when Sora believed he could do it with his friends behind his back, the key chose him again. That is when it became HIS Key. Neither of them technically "Summoned" it.

[TerraRedeemed 255]

Hey everyone, I have theory that I've been meaning to post, so here it is. Okay, so I noticed a lot of people are wondering why Xemnas and Ansem (if I say Ansem, I mean SoD, not the Wise) can't wield keyblades and expect the answer to that in a future game, but I believe that this question has allready been answered.

 

As you should all know, the ability to wield a keyblade comes from the strength of someone's heart, so obviously Xemans can't wield a keyblade because he has no heart, just like any other nobody. Roxas of course is an exception because he holds Ven's heart, the heart of a keyblade wielder. And so that leaves Ansem.

 

Ansem is basically Xehanort's heart in walking form, and Xehanort's heart is made up of the hearts of Terra, Master Xehanort, and Eraqus. And as we've seen, he could wield a keyblade when he was whole, and so he would need a body to wield one again. I would find it strange if a heart, especially a heartless, could summon a keyblade without a body.

 

Now this is where Riku comes in; Ansem's plan was to use the Keyblade of People's Hearts to get to Kingdom Hearts, so he needed a body. Now I think he could've possesed anyone and have been able to wield the Keyblade of People's Hearts since he is made up of three hearts that can all wield keyblades, but I guess it doesn't really matter since Riku's a keyblade wielder anyways. And so as you all know, Ansem then stayed with Riku up until the decoder explosion.

 

Now, for some proof about the whole Ansem needs a body thing. Just like how Sora is able to wield two keyblades because he has Ven's heart sheltered in him, Riku was able to summon a second keyblade when Ansem (Xehanort's heart) was with him. A lot of people don't believe this, but the Destiny's Embrace that Riku summoned for Kairi was in fact Xehanort's keyblade. Now I know it looks nothing like Xehanort's keyblade, but it looks different because it just has a different keychain, just like how Sora's keyblades can change form and Roxas changed them to Oblivion and Oathkeeper. I'm not exactly sure why it took this form, but I'm guessing it has to do with both Riku and Master Xehanort both being from Destiny Islands. Oh, and if you're wondering why Xehanort could only summon one keyblade when he had three hearts that were all hearts of keyblade wielders, it's because Master Xehanort's is the only one he has access to; Terra's is with his Lingering Sentiment and Aqua has Eraqus's.

 

Phew. Well, that's it, so thanks for reading and I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts and comments

 

Edit: There, I spread it out so people can read it easier now

 

You should read the interview with Nomura that states Xemnas doesnt use the keyblade because he just doesnt want to.

 

http://forums.khinsider.com/spoilers/147009-bbs-ultimania-plot-mysteries-nomura-interview.html

 

 

Also id like proof of Ven's heart being in Roxas plox. Cause if it is in Sora i dont think itll be in two places.

[KeybadeWarsFan 0]

it sounds possible

[Reversal 53]

Also id like proof of Ven's heart being in Roxas plox. Cause if it is in Sora i dont think itll be in two places.

 

It's obvious that Roxas has his heart even without that fact ever being officially stated. And no, it was never in two places at once.

 

Ven's heart in Sora = After BBS-KH1 Hollow Bastion (Roxas' birth)

Ven's heart in Roxas = Roxas' birth - End of KH2 prologue (Roxas merging back with Sora)

Ven's heart back in Sora = End of KH2 prologue-Current time

[tjm0721 3]

Lingering Sentiments just have that way of doing things like that. In Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix +, the secret boss, Terra's Lingering Sentiment, is able to communicate with Sora to a limited extent. Notice how in Birth By Sleep, when Terranort is hindered by Terra's Lingering Sentiment, he says: "Your body submits, your heart succumbs, so why does your mind resist?" That is what a Lingering Sentiment is basically, but not literally their mind. It is the bastion of a remaining purpose that the person couldn't carry out. A Lingering Sentiment holds a purpose for itself, a goal. Terra's Lingering Sentiment wanted to find Xehanort, Aqua's Lingering Sentiment wanted to help Terra and Ventus, but it is unknown what Vanitas' Lingering Sentiment's purpose was. You can tell by what they talk about. Xemnas gets info on his previous self Terra from Aqua's LS and about the other friend Ventus who is in the Chamber of Awakening in CO. Terra's LS reveals his feud with Xehanort to a small extent. The unaccomplished goal of the person is usually carried out by a LS, and that is basically all the LS ever concentrates on.

 

Wow, I never thought of them like that before, but it makes a lot of sense. I think that Vanitas's Lingering Sentiment is going to play a canon role in a future game and he's going to help restore Ven's heart. Ven's heart's problem isn't just that it's seperated from its body, it's still fractured, so I think in order to help it, Ven needs to regain his darkness. And I think Vanitas's Sentiment is Ven's darkness just in physical form and he's going to be forced to go back to Ven. That's what I think his purpose could be.

[Keyblader 325]

 

Lingering Sentiments just have that way of doing things like that. In Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix +, the secret boss, Terra's Lingering Sentiment, is able to communicate with Sora to a limited extent. Notice how in Birth By Sleep, when Terranort is hindered by Terra's Lingering Sentiment, he says: "Your body submits, your heart succumbs, so why does your mind resist?" That is what a Lingering Sentiment is basically, but not literally their mind. It is the bastion of a remaining purpose that the person couldn't carry out. A Lingering Sentiment holds a purpose for itself, a goal. Terra's Lingering Sentiment wanted to find Xehanort, Aqua's Lingering Sentiment wanted to help Terra and Ventus, but it is unknown what Vanitas' Lingering Sentiment's purpose was. You can tell by what they talk about. Xemnas gets info on his previous self Terra from Aqua's LS and about the other friend Ventus who is in the Chamber of Awakening in CO. Terra's LS reveals his feud with Xehanort to a small extent. The unaccomplished goal of the person is usually carried out by a LS, and that is basically all the LS ever concentrates on.

 

Wow, I never thought of them like that before, but it makes a lot of sense. I think that Vanitas's Lingering Sentiment is going to play a canon role in a future game and he's going to help restore Ven's heart. Ven's heart's problem isn't just that it's seperated from its body, it's still fractured, so I think in order to help it, Ven needs to regain his darkness. And I think Vanitas's Sentiment is Ven's darkness just in physical form and he's going to be forced to go back to Ven. That's what I think his purpose could be.

 

Well I always thought Vanitas entered back into Ventus or something but I may be wrong.

[tjm0721 3]

Well I always thought Vanitas entered back into Ventus or something but I may be wrong.

 

Well towards the end of bbs their hearts rejoined, but then Ven defeated Vanitas in that awakening battle and expelled him from his heart, which made it fractured again. My guess it that Vanitas's heart is gone, but Ven's darkness can't just disapear, so I think that right before Vanitas was fully defeated, he created an unversed from the last of his negative emotions (which I think is pretty much darkness) and that became Vanitas's lingering sentiment.

[Keyblader 325]

 

Well I always thought Vanitas entered back into Ventus or something but I may be wrong.

 

Well towards the end of bbs their hearts rejoined, but then Ven defeated Vanitas in that awakening battle and expelled him from his heart, which made it fractured again. My guess it that Vanitas's heart is gone, but Ven's darkness can't just disapear, so I think that right before Vanitas was fully defeated, he created an unversed from the last of his negative emotions (which I think is pretty much darkness) and that became Vanitas's lingering sentiment.

 

Huh, good theory, after all, the boss title isn't Vanitas's Lingering Sentiment, so it may be possible that what you are saying is true, but we won't know till a little bit, possibly Kingdom Hearts 3D

[hatok 6,413]

I wish people would call them their canon name; Lingering Spirit. That's Terra spirit, not a manifestation of his motivation, or something.

Considering the whole 'Heart, Body, Spirit' thing, I'm surprised more people haven't picked up on this.

[Keyblader 325]

I wish people would call them their canon name; Lingering Spirit. That's Terra spirit, not a manifestation of his motivation, or something.

Considering the whole 'Heart, Body, Spirit' thing, I'm surprised more people haven't picked up on this.

 

So I might be wrong, sue me, that's just what I though.

[hatok 6,413]

Wasn't talking to you specifically

[Keyblader 325]

Wasn't talking to you specifically

 

Ok. I do understand what you mean though. I'm not what you call an expert with putting all the pieces together myself with this kind of stuff, so I usually get the information from the people that are right about most stuff, like Reversal, she always seems to know what she's talking about.

[hatok 6,413]

 

Wasn't talking to you specifically

 

Ok. I do understand what you mean though. I'm not what you call an expert with putting all the pieces together myself with this kind of stuff, so I usually get the information from the people that are right about most stuff, like Reversal, she always seems to know what she's talking about.

 

Reversal is god a peasant apparently.

[aquarox 0]

its simple, xemnas sucks

[HeartofFire 10]

Or he forgot. Splitting into two tends to make the memories go haywire.

[Reversal 53]

Or he forgot. Splitting into two tends to make the memories go haywire.

 

Roxas was the only Nobody who was born with none of his memories as a Somebody. Everyone else remembers just fine.

[HeartofFire 10]

No, wait, Aqua sealed his memories (from being Terra and MX) away, didn't she? That's why he can't wield one.

[Reversal 53]

No, wait, Aqua sealed his memories (from being Terra and MX) away, didn't she? That's why he can't wield one.

 

No. While Apprentice Xehanort did lose his memories because MX's plan backfired and instead of getting rid of Terra's heart, he locked both of their memories away, the experiments Ansem the Wise performed on his heart brought them back. That's how he regained his Keyblade and opened the door to Radiant Garden's heart.

[kenechi 0]

He can't wield a keyblade because he has no heart and inorder to have a keyblade u have to have a heart.

[riku1123 11]

As seen in BBS, Xehanort (Terra) lost the ability to wield a Keyblade because he lost his memories when he sealed away both terra and master xehanort's hearts. Ansem SoD and Xemnas don't have the ability to wield the Keyblade for a similar reason. Xemnas may remember being able to wield a Keyblade, but can't because his somebody wasn't able to. Ansem SoD and Xemnas can wield similar weapons (Dual Soul Eater, Interdiction) for the reason that they had the power, but can't anymore

 

The amnesia theory does not explain this in my mind because Roxas forgot he could wield a keyblade, yet h still had the ability at the start of KH2

[keystrike 145]

He can't wield a keyblade because he has no heart and inorder to have a keyblade u have to have a heart.

 

That is the most simple way to explain it but its actually more along the lines of there are just as many keyblades to wield (e.g. dual wielding as there are qualified hearts). This also explains how Roxas could dual wield; besides using his own, he used Sora's. If Ansem sod's heart was qualified to wield the keyblade Xemnas would have been able to use it, but as we've seen he never used it or could. But say if this was because ansem sod merely forgot (recall nomura saying how the memories were split would be important) and thats why he couldn't wield, Xemnas might have been able to borrow that hearts power and wield. Just throwing some stuff out there.

[aznshadow390 8]

What they said

[Mog 97]

As said in the first post, Xemnas cannot wield without a heart. Ansem could not wield because he's just a heart.

[keystrike 145]

As said in the first post, Xemnas cannot wield without a heart. Ansem could not wield because he's just a heart.

 

Sora was just a heart until Roxas was brought in by Riku, and he could use the keyblade.