Why Xemnas can't wield a keyblade.

[tjm0721 3]

Hey everyone, I have theory that I've been meaning to post, so here it is. Okay, so I noticed a lot of people are wondering why Xemnas and Ansem (if I say Ansem, I mean SoD, not the Wise) can't wield keyblades and expect the answer to that in a future game, but I believe that this question has allready been answered.

 

As you should all know, the ability to wield a keyblade comes from the strength of someone's heart, so obviously Xemans can't wield a keyblade because he has no heart, just like any other nobody. Roxas of course is an exception because he holds Ven's heart, the heart of a keyblade wielder. And so that leaves Ansem.

 

Ansem is basically Xehanort's heart in walking form, and Xehanort's heart is made up of the hearts of Terra, Master Xehanort, and Eraqus. And as we've seen, he could wield a keyblade when he was whole, and so he would need a body to wield one again. I would find it strange if a heart, especially a heartless, could summon a keyblade without a body.

 

Now this is where Riku comes in; Ansem's plan was to use the Keyblade of People's Hearts to get to Kingdom Hearts, so he needed a body. Now I think he could've possesed anyone and have been able to wield the Keyblade of People's Hearts since he is made up of three hearts that can all wield keyblades, but I guess it doesn't really matter since Riku's a keyblade wielder anyways. And so as you all know, Ansem then stayed with Riku up until the decoder explosion.

 

Now, for some proof about the whole Ansem needs a body thing. Just like how Sora is able to wield two keyblades because he has Ven's heart sheltered in him, Riku was able to summon a second keyblade when Ansem (Xehanort's heart) was with him. A lot of people don't believe this, but the Destiny's Embrace that Riku summoned for Kairi was in fact Xehanort's keyblade. Now I know it looks nothing like Xehanort's keyblade, but it looks different because it just has a different keychain, just like how Sora's keyblades can change form and Roxas changed them to Oblivion and Oathkeeper. I'm not exactly sure why it took this form, but I'm guessing it has to do with both Riku and Master Xehanort both being from Destiny Islands. Oh, and if you're wondering why Xehanort could only summon one keyblade when he had three hearts that were all hearts of keyblade wielders, it's because Master Xehanort's is the only one he has access to; Terra's is with his Lingering Sentiment and Aqua has Eraqus's.

 

Phew. Well, that's it, so thanks for reading and I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts and comments

 

Edit: There, I spread it out so people can read it easier now

[VENROXAS 152]

Hmmm Your theory is pretty goodn I think it's true Every thing adds up in it

[JTD95 1,107]

But if Ansem needed a body to wield the Keyblade then why didn't he wield one during the final battle? Ansem was originally just a brown cloak. Then he stole Riku's body and formed it into something similar to his original self.

Xehanort's heart + Riku's body = a complete being

So when you fight him during KH1, he is a complete being. So why doesn't he wield a Keyblade?

 

Also, when you write, try to use some paragraphs instead of writing one big block of text.

[tjm0721 3]

But if Ansem needed a body to wield the Keyblade then why didn't he wield one during the final battle? Ansem was originally just a brown cloak. Then he stole Riku's body and formed it into something similar to his original self.

Xehanort's heart + Riku's body = a complete being

So when you fight him during KH1, he is a complete being. So why doesn't he wield a Keyblade?

 

Also, when you write, try to use some paragraphs instead of writing one big block of text.

 

I'm not really sure about that. I guess he didn't really need it since he had the guardian and the whole giant heartless ship(forgot the name of it). I mean when Aqua fought him when he was whole and he had the guardian, he barely used his keyblade. And even if the needing a body thing isn't true, then he just didn't use it when he didn't have one either, but he definately had one since Riku summoned it. And it's never been established how much, if any, of his memory that Ansem regained, so maybe he doesn't even remember that he's a keyblade wielder.

 

And sorry about that, I didn't realize how long it was until I posted it.

[wholphdog 0]

what about xion she is a puppet and she weilds one even though it might be a fake she still weilds one

[tjm0721 3]

what about xion she is a puppet and she weilds one even though it might be a fake she still weilds one

 

Well she had a heart. It was fake, but it was still a heart.

[wholphdog 0]

how did she have a heart?

[JTD95 1,107]

And sorry about that, I didn't realize how long it was until I posted it.

 

That's okay, the only reason I said is when it is divided in to paragraphs it becomes easier for others to read it.

[Codeman1346 2]

how did she have a heart?

 

She copied everything from Roxas, (my theory on her) even a heart (fake).

[Reversal 53]

As you should all know' date=' the ability to wield a keyblade comes from the strength of someone's heart, so obviously Xemans can't wield a keyblade because he has no heart, just like any other nobody.[/quote']

 

Well, we can't say that for sure yet since it's hinted that he does have a Keyblade but isn't using it for whatever reason he has. Considering the rather interesting situation with the three hearts that made up his, nothing's definite yet.

 

Roxas of course is an exception because he holds Ven's heart, the heart of a keyblade wielder. And so that leaves Ansem. Ansem is basically Xehanort's heart in walking form, and Xehanort's heart is made up of the hearts of Terra, Master Xehanort, and Eraqus. And as we've seen, he could wield a keyblade when he was whole, and so he would need a body to wield one again. I would find it strange if a heart, especially a heartless, could summon a keyblade without a body.

 

Sora: post KH1 Hollow Bastion-end of KH2 prologue.

 

Now this is where Riku comes in; Ansem's plan was to use the Keyblade of People's Hearts to get to Kingdom Hearts, so he needed a body. Now I think he could've possesed anyone and have been able to wield the Keyblade of People's Hearts since he is made up of three hearts that can all wield keyblades, but I guess it doesn't really matter since Riku's a keyblade wielder anyways.

 

Master Xehanort is the dominant of the three. We see in BBS that he doesn't want just any vessel, but one that can and will harness the darkness within him.

 

And so as you all know, Ansem then stayed with Riku up until the decoder explosion. Now, for some proof about the whole Ansem needs a body thing. Just like how Sora is able to wield two keyblades because he has Ven's heart sheltered in him, Riku was able to summon a second keyblade when Ansem (Xehanort's heart) was with him.

 

I'm feeling some deja vu here. Lol, most of the supporting points in your theory are things I've been going on about for a while

 

A lot of people don't believe this, but the Destiny's Embrace that Riku summoned for Kairi was in fact Xehanort's keyblade.

 

Thank you. I can't even count how many times I've said that but was ignored.

 

Now I know it looks nothing like Xehanort's keyblade, but it looks different because it just has a different keychain, just like how Sora's keyblades can change form and Roxas changed them to Oblivion and Oathkeeper. I'm not exactly sure why it took this form, but I'm guessing it has to do with both Riku and Master Xehanort both being from Destiny Islands.

 

The novels say that it materialized for Riku when he was thinking about his home, Destiny Islands.

 

Oh, and if you're wondering why Xehanort could only summon one keyblade when he had three hearts that were all hearts of keyblade wielders, it's because Master Xehanort's is the only one he has access to; Terra's is with his Lingering Sentiment and Aqua has Eraqus's.

 

Whoa, whoa, whoa. No. That's not it.

 

The three hearts are more or less merged, or at least, each one taking shelter within the other; Eraqus within Terra's within Master Xehanort's. The Lingering Sentiment is very literally Terra's lingering sentiments, not his heart. There is no way Eraqus's heart is in Aqua's, so I'm rather confused how you even got to that conclusion.

 

Phew. Well, that's it, so thanks for reading and I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts and comments

 

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what about xion she is a puppet and she weilds one even though it might be a fake she still weilds one

 

Xion's Keyblade is fake.

 

how did she have a heart?

 

Xion, like Repliku, had an artificial heart.

[Codeman1346 2]

REversal, he was talking about all of their Key's not their hearts. I understood. Tjm.

 

Oh and that is interesting about that whole Xehanorts Key going to Kairi.

[tjm0721 3]

Roxas of course is an exception because he holds Ven's heart, the heart of a keyblade wielder. And so that leaves Ansem. Ansem is basically Xehanort's heart in walking form, and Xehanort's heart is made up of the hearts of Terra, Master Xehanort, and Eraqus. And as we've seen, he could wield a keyblade when he was whole, and so he would need a body to wield one again. I would find it strange if a heart, especially a heartless, could summon a keyblade without a body.

Sora: post KH1 Hollow Bastion-end of KH2 prologue.

 

Oh yeah, I didn't think of that. I guess I'm going to discard the whole "Ansem needed a body" thing; it doesn't really make a difference toward the rest of my theory. I guess we can assume Ansem just didn't remember he was a keyblade wielder since there's no evidence of him having any of his memories as Master Xehanort or Terra. Or he just chose not to use it.

 

We see in BBS that he doesn't want just any vessel, but one that can and will harness the darkness within him.

 

Well yeah, I know that. I just meant I'm not sure if the fact Riku's a keyblade wielder made a difference to him.

 

Oh, and if you're wondering why Xehanort could only summon one keyblade when he had three hearts that were all hearts of keyblade wielders, it's because Master Xehanort's is the only one he has access to; Terra's is with his Lingering Sentiment and Aqua has Eraqus's.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. No. That's not it.

 

The three hearts are more or less merged, or at least, each one taking shelter within the other; Eraqus within Terra's within Master Xehanort's. The Lingering Sentiment is very literally Terra's lingering sentiments, not his heart. There is no way Eraqus's heart is in Aqua's, so I'm rather confused how you even got to that conclusion.

 

Actually, like codeman said, I meant their keyblade's, not their hearts

[NumberXIII.Roxas 64]

 

Oh, and if you're wondering why Xehanort could only summon one keyblade when he had three hearts that were all hearts of keyblade wielders, it's because Master Xehanort's is the only one he has access to; Terra's is with his Lingering Sentiment and Aqua has Eraqus's.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. No. That's not it.

 

The three hearts are more or less merged, or at least, each one taking shelter within the other; Eraqus within Terra's within Master Xehanort's. The Lingering Sentiment is very literally Terra's lingering sentiments, not his heart. There is no way Eraqus's heart is in Aqua's, so I'm rather confused how you even got to that conclusion.

 

Actually, like codeman said, I meant their keyblade's, not their hearts

 

Whether or not other people have their keyblades makes no difference, as seen in the case of Sora and Riku. So long as they can still wield a keyblade, they can always call it back to them. And so Reversal was correct when she spoke of their hearts. Since all three hearts are present, all three keyblades would be accessible.

[Axtwyt 500]

As seen in BBS, Xehanort (Terra) lost the ability to wield a Keyblade because he lost his memories when he sealed away both terra and master xehanort's hearts. Ansem SoD and Xemnas don't have the ability to wield the Keyblade for a similar reason. Xemnas may remember being able to wield a Keyblade, but can't because his somebody wasn't able to. Ansem SoD and Xemnas can wield similar weapons (Dual Soul Eater, Interdiction) for the reason that they had the power, but can't anymore

[Space Cowboy 1,392]

What Terranort said.

 

Just because someone has a Keyblade in their possession doesn't mean that Keyblade could be summoned somewhere else.

Which is why I think it is bologna that Xehanort's Keyblade is the Destiny Place. But that's just me.

 

Also, it is confirmed that Xemnas is a "special" Nobody, similar to Roxas. Who is to say one of the hearts that were inside of Xehanort didn't pass on to him? Sure, Ansem is his walking heart. But Ansem is just one heart. All three hearts did not corrupt and fall into darkness.

[tjm0721 3]

Whether or not other people have their keyblades makes no difference, as seen in the case of Sora and Riku. So long as they can still wield a keyblade, they can always call it back to them. And so Reversal was correct when she spoke of their hearts. Since all three hearts are present, all three keyblades would be accessible.

 

I actually agree with this, but I have another theory that can explain why he can't summon Eraqus's keyblade. I think that if you're in one realm and your keyblade is in the other, then you can't summon it. For example, Aqua is in the Realm of Darkness and her keyblade is in the Realm of Light, in the Chamber of Repose, and she can't summon it. So it would make sense that Ansem can't summon Eraqus's keyblade since it's with Aqua in the Realm of Darkness. And he probably doesn't want to summon Terra's considering that he just dropped it and got rid of it when Master Xehanort's heart first entered Terra.

 

As seen in BBS, Xehanort (Terra) lost the ability to wield a Keyblade because he lost his memories when he sealed away both terra and master xehanort's hearts. Ansem SoD and Xemnas don't have the ability to wield the Keyblade for a similar reason. Xemnas may remember being able to wield a Keyblade, but can't because his somebody wasn't able to. Ansem SoD and Xemnas can wield similar weapons (Dual Soul Eater, Interdiction) for the reason that they had the power, but can't anymore.

 

It's not that he can't summon it anymore because he lost his memories, it's just that he doesn't remember that he can. My guess is that Ansem never gained back the memories of wielding a keyblade which would be why he never summoned it. I think Xemnas remembered that he used to be able to, but he couldn't because he didn't have a heart.

[khfan02 56]

WOW that was long im still trying to deal with my dyslexia so my sistr read it to me lol so ya good theory

[Space Cowboy 1,392]

Who said that she couldn't summon her Keyblade?

[tjm0721 3]

Who said that she couldn't summon her Keyblade?

 

Well that's just what I assume. If she can, then she's just never tried considering it's still just sitting in the Chamber or Repose.

[Space Cowboy 1,392]

It's in the Chamber of Repose for a reason. She hoped it would protect Terra. So she wouldn't bother to remove it. That's the same reason her armor is in the COR.

[khoathkeeper13 429]

Good theory. I actually thought of the Xemnas-has-no-heart-so-no-Keyblade theory too, I just never thought of posting it anywhere >.

[tjm0721 3]

It's in the Chamber of Repose for a reason. She hoped it would protect Terra. So she wouldn't bother to remove it. That's the same reason her armor is in the COR.

 

Well I don't think she has any way of bringing her armor back to her. I'm really not sure about whether or not Aqua can summon her keyblade since there's not any evidence to it, so it's really just spectulation for now.

[Space Cowboy 1,392]

Well, I know she can't bring her armor back. I was just saying that the armor is in the COR because of the same reason as the Keyblade.

And yes, there is no evidence of it because we only get a 5 minute glance of her in "Blank Points". We don't know what she did between BBS and the secret ending. It is just speculation, I guess.

[tjm0721 3]

Well, I know she can't bring her armor back. I was just saying that the armor is in the COR because of the same reason as the Keyblade.

And yes, there is no evidence of it because we only get a 5 minute glance of her in "Blank Points". We don't know what she did between BBS and the secret ending. It is just speculation, I guess.

 

Yeah, exactly. I also just remembered that in FM+ there's a scene where Xigbar says he's heard a voice answer Xemnas in the chamber, so maybe she found a way to communicate with Xemnas through her Keyblade and that's why she's leaving it; I never thought of that until now.

[venequalswind 1]

ansem is a heartless so he has no memory of wielding a keyblade