Scsigs 119 Posted October 26, 2018 Now, I know the easy answers most Sony fanboys will give are, "It doesn't belong on Xbox," or "Xbox doesn't deserve it," "There's an exclusivity contract," or "Xbox doesn't sell well in Japan." I tend to ignore those, since for one, two of those are based on feelings rather than actual facts, two, one is reliant on people just believing hearsay that's never been confirmed anywhere, &, three, the last doesn't hold up under scrutiny when you take into account that III is coming to the system. No, I'm talking about legitimate reasons. As people have said in various places, to release another collection of these games like this not on Xbox is pretty baffling. I mean, why release a whole new package to the console they've already had the games on for almost 2 years now, but not create ports to put them on the other system III's coming out on? There are a few reasons, such as Nomura wanting to finish KHIII before thinking of porting the collections (which is the only leeway I'm giving them for now), or the fact that they have yet to talk to Microsoft about it. However, not at least doing that & setting a placeholder on online shopping sites is pretty bad. Even if they didn't talk to Microsoft, who aren't gonna say no, let's get that straight, waiting to announce this set would've been more preferable, especially when you can get the older physical versions of the collections for the exact same price, or around the same price, with the lowered prices. They didn't need to announce this set. Unless they were to have ported the collections to Xbox, the set is really unnecessary right now. I'm stumped. 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azure Flame 670 Posted October 26, 2018 I don't know the reason, all I can do is guess, but it may take a lot of time, effort, and money to port them over to another console entirely. With PS2 to PS3, and PS3 to PS4, it wasn't that difficult since they were the same family of consoles, not much changed (Except with KH1, since they lost the source code and had to rebuild the game almost entirely from the ground up) but things could be different porting them over to Xbox, remapping for the Xbox controller, and everything else. They may not have the time or the manpower to do so just yet, and they want to focus all their resources on KH3, which they're already making for Xbox One alongside PS4. Again, I have no idea if this is true or not, but this is what I think might be the reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MythrilMagician 6,963 Posted October 26, 2018 First, this set is just a more convenient way to purchase the two collections and at a good price too. Heck, they probably have an excess of discs and decided to bundle them together to make it easier to sell. It's extremely useful for people who are interested in the franchise, especially if they just got their PS4. Second, porting is a huge process. It takes a lot of time and effort and there will be a lot of tweaks that need to be done to get it working on a different platform. A lot of money is involved too. Like you said, Nomura's priority is finishing KH3. After that, he'll be focusing on FFVIIR and if possible, he will manage any possible ports of the games and maybe even additional content to be released later down the line. 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted October 26, 2018 I honestly don't know the reason, either. You'd think that with KHIII so close by, The Story So Far would be a perfect way to bring over the Xehanort Saga to the XBox, but I don't know, I'm not business savvy, so I don't know how these things go about. My guess, though, is that Nomura is simply waiting until work on Kingdom Hearts III is completely and undeniably done, and after the game releases, he and his team can focus on porting over the rest of the Xehanort Saga to the XBox, ya know? I guess we'll have to wait and see for what happens! My thinking, well, a thought that came to me just now, is that maybe Nomura is waiting to see how much KHIII sells on XBox before thinking of porting the other games. Maybe to see if KH would have solid footing on Microsoft's turf, ya know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scsigs 119 Posted October 26, 2018 10 hours ago, Azure Flame said: I don't know the reason, all I can do is guess, but it may take a lot of time, effort, and money to port them over to another console entirely. With PS2 to PS3, and PS3 to PS4, it wasn't that difficult since they were the same family of consoles, not much changed (Except with KH1, since they lost the source code and had to rebuild the game almost entirely from the ground up) but things could be different porting them over to Xbox, remapping for the Xbox controller, and everything else. They may not have the time or the manpower to do so just yet, and they want to focus all their resources on KH3, which they're already making for Xbox One alongside PS4. Again, I have no idea if this is true or not, but this is what I think might be the reason. 9 hours ago, MythrilMagician said: First, this set is just a more convenient way to purchase the two collections and at a good price too. Heck, they probably have an excess of discs and decided to bundle them together to make it easier to sell. It's extremely useful for people who are interested in the franchise, especially if they just got their PS4. Second, porting is a huge process. It takes a lot of time and effort and there will be a lot of tweaks that need to be done to get it working on a different platform. A lot of money is involved too. Like you said, Nomura's priority is finishing KH3. After that, he'll be focusing on FFVIIR and if possible, he will manage any possible ports of the games and maybe even additional content to be released later down the line. Yes, having the games ported to the other system would take time & money. Ports to the PS3 & 4 made sense because the series started on the system family. My point is that not porting the games at this point makes even less sense than not at this point, especially when it's entirely possible to do. Yes, convenience is a factor, but Square has at least 12 different business divisions, one of them dedicated to porting their older games to newer consoles (including the Switch, an even more complicated system to develop for) & you mean to tell me that they couldn't have one of the divisions dedicated to game development port the games? And, yes, money is involved with porting games, but I'd think it would be significantly less to port a game to another system than it would be to bring them into HD & widescreen, especially since, from what I've heard, the Xbox One is easier to port games to than the PS4 & the systems are already pretty close in terms of hardware in the first place. It wouldn't be too hard. I'd think they'd have a harder time porting to the Switch, honestly. 2 hours ago, The Transcendent Key said: I honestly don't know the reason, either. You'd think that with KHIII so close by, The Story So Far would be a perfect way to bring over the Xehanort Saga to the XBox, but I don't know, I'm not business savvy, so I don't know how these things go about. My guess, though, is that Nomura is simply waiting until work on Kingdom Hearts III is completely and undeniably done, and after the game releases, he and his team can focus on porting over the rest of the Xehanort Saga to the XBox, ya know? I guess we'll have to wait and see for what happens! My thinking, well, a thought that came to me just now, is that maybe Nomura is waiting to see how much KHIII sells on XBox before thinking of porting the other games. Maybe to see if KH would have solid footing on Microsoft's turf, ya know? Yeah, but it seems that KHIII is already gonna have pretty decent sales on Xbox. Considering the Final Fantasy titles that are being ported right now, they should've had KH on the docket too, if you ask me. 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MythrilMagician 6,963 Posted October 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Scsigs said: Yes, having the games ported to the other system would take time & money. Ports to the PS3 & 4 made sense because the series started on the system family. My point is that not porting the games at this point makes even less sense than not at this point, especially when it's entirely possible to do. Yes, convenience is a factor, but Square has at least 12 different business divisions, one of them dedicated to porting their older games to newer consoles (including the Switch, an even more complicated system to develop for) & you mean to tell me that they couldn't have one of the divisions dedicated to game development port the games? And, yes, money is involved with porting games, but I'd think it would be significantly less to port a game to another system than it would be to bring them into HD & widescreen, especially since, from what I've heard, the Xbox One is easier to port games to than the PS4 & the systems are already pretty close in terms of hardware in the first place. It wouldn't be too hard. I'd think they'd have a harder time porting to the Switch, honestly. Yeah, but it seems that KHIII is already gonna have pretty decent sales on Xbox. Considering the Final Fantasy titles that are being ported right now, they should've had KH on the docket too, if you ask me. Having the same team responsible for porting the previous games would be easier and far more efficient. It's really difficult to understand someone else's code. It's why KH2 had the most problems when it was ported to PS3 and 4, compared to the other games, as the rest were developed by Osaka (remember KH1 had to be done again to some extent). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pr0t0type12 0 Posted October 28, 2018 short answer: probably sony paid them to not release it on xbox, like this some people will buy a playstation 4 just to play the story so far and probs resell it after, but sony still get dam $$$$ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allwil13 754 Posted October 28, 2018 I remember Tetsuya Nomura was asked about that in an interview at some point and he said that they want to port the earlier games to the Xbox One, but the problem is that Sony owns the distribution rights to all the games in the series, which the exception of the ones that were released on Nintendo handhelds. So KH1, KH2, BBS, 0.2 and Back Cover cannot be ported to Xbox because they're technically exclusive to Sony. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted October 28, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 4:02 PM, Scsigs said: Yeah, but it seems that KHIII is already gonna have pretty decent sales on Xbox. Considering the Final Fantasy titles that are being ported right now, they should've had KH on the docket too, if you ask me. Yeah, I agree. It is strange! I guess we'll have to wait and see for what happens regarding the Xehanort Saga on XBox, ya know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites