The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted May 8, 2018 Hey there everyone, how's it going!? So then, lately, there's been a lot of buzz over voice actors coming out of the woodwork, stating and confirming that they are working on the dub for Kingdom Hearts III! This is most curious, and it raises the question: Could the voice work be next to complete? It's something to think about, and with E3 close by, maybe we'll finally get another English trailer! But anyways, I, The Friendly Neighborhood Webhead, shed light on this subject! Enjoy! So, what do you all think? English Trailer on the horizon, maybe? 2 2 quid is good and Veemon reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoraDaxjer28 263 Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) Chances are, we shall not know anything more until at least the next major convention. Typically, if I am not mistaken, that should be in June -- next month. Edited May 8, 2018 by SoraDaxjer28 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue490246 43 Posted May 8, 2018 Further to SoraDaxjer28's point, E3 would be the best time to drop an English trailer to get the rest of the world even more hyped for the game's release, as we are gonna also finally get release details of the game at the convention. But it's hard to say whether voice acting is complete per se at this stage. Since games have become so iterative in production, I wouldn't be surprised if they had voice actors come in last minute to add or touch up voice clips, with presumably the large budget the game might have. This would be provided that the game releases in Q4 this year, giving them from now until then to finalize voice clips and match lip syncing and subtitles. Here's to them dropping a surprise bomb for a summer/early fall release date, in which case, the voice acting probably will have to have been completed already. 2 The Transcendent Key and SoraDaxjer28 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merilly 438 Posted May 8, 2018 I think an English trailer should come around soon. The last one for KH3 was in 2015 and they should at least be at a point where they're done with some parts. Maybe not all of them, that's hard to tell and not even necessary for an English dub. The game comes out this year, it should certainly be time to present something regarding the dub(s) (if there are other languages). I do like the Japanese voices, but I think it would appeal to people who are not that involved with the franchise more to actually hear the version they are going to play. I guess it would also make more sense from a marketing point of view becauee despite saying the final game will feature English audio, potential newcomers migjt want to hear said audio beforehand. I'm still hoping for a Q4 release. I know percentages don't really mean anything in game development but considering how much was said to be done in February, a few more months could really do wonders for the game like it did for 0.2. Like even out the models to be roughly the same quality, fix potential bugs and glitches and overall make it connect nicely and not end up rushing the game out half-finished. Such damage cannot be undone immediately and day one patches should not be such a common practice as they already are. I also don't want the story to be cut just to get it out and get half of it delivered later through DLC. And also gove the game time to actually do some more marketing. We all want to get the game as quickly as possible. But I also prefer to receive a quality product and not a mess of models going back and forth between plastic and good and other terrible issues which may arise during playing the game such as crashing, save files getting deleted or other things which could be prevented by simply giving them the time to test it. That being said, I could imagine recordings being done, but also that there might be some missing scenes which still require recording. Though I hope people won't pester the VAs to break their NDAs any more than what was already done. I know you didn't, The Transcendent Key, but it's just something that seemed to become problematic recently with Vexen's VA claiming that it was apparently done. 2 The Transcendent Key and SoraDaxjer28 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 quid is good 2,209 Posted May 8, 2018 Yes, I think voice work is finished,as some actors hinted towards that. This would mean that the game is being play-tested right now and the final tweaks are being worked on. That's probably why a demo of the game can be played by the KH youtubers really soon (next week I think?) 2 The Transcendent Key and SnowPint7Fourths reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted May 9, 2018 Chances are, we shall not know anything more until at least the next major convention. Typically, if I am not mistaken, that should be in June -- next month. Yep, you're right. E3 is just on the horizon, and thanks to the news team of this site, we know that Square Enix will be holding their showcase on June 11th, so we should keep our eyes peeled for anything Kingdom Hearts III related! I'm sure we'll most likely get a release date on June 11th! Further to SoraDaxjer28's point, E3 would be the best time to drop an English trailer to get the rest of the world even more hyped for the game's release, as we are gonna also finally get release details of the game at the convention. But it's hard to say whether voice acting is complete per se at this stage. Since games have become so iterative in production, I wouldn't be surprised if they had voice actors come in last minute to add or touch up voice clips, with presumably the large budget the game might have. This would be provided that the game releases in Q4 this year, giving them from now until then to finalize voice clips and match lip syncing and subtitles. Here's to them dropping a surprise bomb for a summer/early fall release date, in which case, the voice acting probably will have to have been completed already. I've also had the thought that maybe voice acting has been done on par with other aspects of development. What I mean by this is that maybe dialogue and cutscenes have been developed little by little alongside the gameplay segments, and now that the game comes out this year, all final voicework will be rounded up in the coming months! I'm sure we'll get a release date at E3, because as you said, it's the event where the world has their eyes on gaming, so KHIII would shine most there! So voice acting should be complete by then! I think an English trailer should come around soon. The last one for KH3 was in 2015 and they should at least be at a point where they're done with some parts. Maybe not all of them, that's hard to tell and not even necessary for an English dub. The game comes out this year, it should certainly be time to present something regarding the dub(s) (if there are other languages). I do like the Japanese voices, but I think it would appeal to people who are not that involved with the franchise more to actually hear the version they are going to play. I guess it would also make more sense from a marketing point of view becauee despite saying the final game will feature English audio, potential newcomers migjt want to hear said audio beforehand. I'm still hoping for a Q4 release. I know percentages don't really mean anything in game development but considering how much was said to be done in February, a few more months could really do wonders for the game like it did for 0.2. Like even out the models to be roughly the same quality, fix potential bugs and glitches and overall make it connect nicely and not end up rushing the game out half-finished. Such damage cannot be undone immediately and day one patches should not be such a common practice as they already are. I also don't want the story to be cut just to get it out and get half of it delivered later through DLC. And also gove the game time to actually do some more marketing. We all want to get the game as quickly as possible. But I also prefer to receive a quality product and not a mess of models going back and forth between plastic and good and other terrible issues which may arise during playing the game such as crashing, save files getting deleted or other things which could be prevented by simply giving them the time to test it. That being said, I could imagine recordings being done, but also that there might be some missing scenes which still require recording. Though I hope people won't pester the VAs to break their NDAs any more than what was already done. I know you didn't, The Transcendent Key, but it's just something that seemed to become problematic recently with Vexen's VA claiming that it was apparently done. Yeah, I know what you mean. We all want this game to be a success, and we don't want it to end up having the troubles that Final Fantasy XV had, and I'm sure that won't be the case! Nomura has been very tightly knit into the game's development, so I'm sure and confident that he and his team over at Square have done wonders to this game! November is probably the latest we'll get the game, and I'm okay with that, but we could also be vastly surprised! We'll know soon enough, but until then, all we can do at this point is speculate! But yeah, maybe Derek's comment was a mislead, as maybe he had to stay shut about his involvement in KHIII, if he was involved in it, ya know? Yes, I think voice work is finished,as some actors hinted towards that. This would mean that the game is being play-tested right now and the final tweaks are being worked on. That's probably why a demo of the game can be played by the KH youtubers really soon (next week I think?) I hope it's next week! And well, if we go by what you're saying, then that'd be an exciting prospect indeed! Just imagine a Kingdom Hearts III demo being made available to download on the Playstation Store!? That'd be surreal! 2 SoraDaxjer28 and 2 quid is good reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoraDaxjer28 263 Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) Yep, you're right. E3 is just on the horizon, and thanks to the news team of this site, we know that Square Enix will be holding their showcase on June 11th, so we should keep our eyes peeled for anything Kingdom Hearts III related! I'm sure we'll most likely get a release date on June 11th! I've also had the thought that maybe voice acting has been done on par with other aspects of development. What I mean by this is that maybe dialogue and cutscenes have been developed little by little alongside the gameplay segments, and now that the game comes out this year, all final voicework will be rounded up in the coming months! I'm sure we'll get a release date at E3, because as you said, it's the event where the world has their eyes on gaming, so KHIII would shine most there! So voice acting should be complete by then! Yeah, I know what you mean. We all want this game to be a success, and we don't want it to end up having the troubles that Final Fantasy XV had, and I'm sure that won't be the case! Nomura has been very tightly knit into the game's development, so I'm sure and confident that he and his team over at Square have done wonders to this game! November is probably the latest we'll get the game, and I'm okay with that, but we could also be vastly surprised! We'll know soon enough, but until then, all we can do at this point is speculate! But yeah, maybe Derek's comment was a mislead, as maybe he had to stay shut about his involvement in KHIII, if he was involved in it, ya know? I hope it's next week! And well, if we go by what you're saying, then that'd be an exciting prospect indeed! Just imagine a Kingdom Hearts III demo being made available to download on the Playstation Store!? That'd be surreal! Only time shall tell for certain!! I have a friend who is starting to feel we won't be getting "'Kingdom Hearts 3'" until 2019. Yet, I have managed to keep his enthusiasm going for a little longer by stating how I shall let him know the instant an announcement is made!! Edited May 9, 2018 by SoraDaxjer28 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted May 9, 2018 Only time shall tell for certain!! I have a friend who is starting to feel we won't be getting "'Kingdom Hearts 3'" until 2019. Yet, I have managed to keep his enthusiasm going for a little longer by stating how I shall let him know the instant an announcement is made!! I kinda find it weird that so many people think that this game will be delayed into next year! I mean come on, what's up with that? Nomura has yet to disappoint us when it comes to releasing a Kingdom Hearts game! None of his games have ever been delayed, the only exception being 2.8, but that was only because FFXV had recently come out, and it would've made 2.8 have less of a spotlight, ya know? So really, I believe Kingdom Hearts III will come out this year, otherwise, he wouldn't have bothered announcing the release year at last year's D23, ya know? 1 SoraDaxjer28 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merilly 438 Posted May 9, 2018 I kinda find it weird that so many people think that this game will be delayed into next year! I mean come on, what's up with that? Nomura has yet to disappoint us when it comes to releasing a Kingdom Hearts game! None of his games have ever been delayed, the only exception being 2.8, but that was only because FFXV had recently come out, and it would've made 2.8 have less of a spotlight, ya know? So really, I believe Kingdom Hearts III will come out this year, otherwise, he wouldn't have bothered announcing the release year at last year's D23, ya know? Of course delays are always something that can happen, even last minute, but I currently see no hints toward that either to be honest. I'd be more concerned over some aspects ending up unpolished/unfinished and to be added later rather than a delay. While I'm more of a pessimist and realist, I also think it will come out this year in one form or another and I'm mainly concerned about how the end product will look and if there'll be any issues with scrapping important content to use for DLCs, etc. That being said, I also disagree with people who are hellbent on a July release just to fulfill a trope. That would mean that it would come out barely a month after the release date reveal that would need to happen at E3. Sure, SE likely has become more cautious with announcing these things too early, but if they want to reveal every world there will either be a flood of information in the near future or not that many worlds at all,even fewer than expected. Now, I'm not saying it's completely impossible but they wouldn't have had enough time to thoroughly test the game if July really did haplen I think November would be fine by me. Not gonna lie, if I could I would also rather play ot right this instant but I want to enjoy the game and not be annoyed by an onslaught of bugs and ugly/inconsistent models. I have the feeling thst the people absolutely demanding it to release this summer would be the first to complain of the game is in a desastrous state just because they wanted the game out. The game has not been indevelopment that long. After they had to start over in late 2014, November 2018 would mean 4 years of actual development, which is a regular time frame for a triple A title that's not just copy and paste like Fifa for example. (Nothing against Fifa but to be able to put out a game every year basically implies that they don't really need to start from zero with an unfamiliar engine.) I think we can all agree that we want the best experience possible within a reasonable development cycle. These last few months of hype will be something that's going to be unrivaled for a while so it's nice to just speculate and have these events to look forward to, like the one this May and of course E3. Once that passes,we'll see what to expect. ^-^ 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted May 11, 2018 Of course delays are always something that can happen, even last minute, but I currently see no hints toward that either to be honest. I'd be more concerned over some aspects ending up unpolished/unfinished and to be added later rather than a delay. While I'm more of a pessimist and realist, I also think it will come out this year in one form or another and I'm mainly concerned about how the end product will look and if there'll be any issues with scrapping important content to use for DLCs, etc. That being said, I also disagree with people who are hellbent on a July release just to fulfill a trope. That would mean that it would come out barely a month after the release date reveal that would need to happen at E3. Sure, SE likely has become more cautious with announcing these things too early, but if they want to reveal every world there will either be a flood of information in the near future or not that many worlds at all,even fewer than expected. Now, I'm not saying it's completely impossible but they wouldn't have had enough time to thoroughly test the game if July really did haplen I think November would be fine by me. Not gonna lie, if I could I would also rather play ot right this instant but I want to enjoy the game and not be annoyed by an onslaught of bugs and ugly/inconsistent models. I have the feeling thst the people absolutely demanding it to release this summer would be the first to complain of the game is in a desastrous state just because they wanted the game out. The game has not been indevelopment that long. After they had to start over in late 2014, November 2018 would mean 4 years of actual development, which is a regular time frame for a triple A title that's not just copy and paste like Fifa for example. (Nothing against Fifa but to be able to put out a game every year basically implies that they don't really need to start from zero with an unfamiliar engine.) I think we can all agree that we want the best experience possible within a reasonable development cycle. These last few months of hype will be something that's going to be unrivaled for a while so it's nice to just speculate and have these events to look forward to, like the one this May and of course E3. Once that passes,we'll see what to expect. ^-^ Indeed, I agree with what you're saying! These months are going to be the greatest in the history of the Kingdom Hearts franchise, because promotion for Kingdom Hearts III will be going at a sky high rate, and it'll be just like the build up for Avengers: Infinity War, with each day closer to release giving us even more to hype about, ya know? So I'm confident that in the months left for the year to end, Nomura and his team will deliver on building up our hype, and Kingdom Hearts III's release will be something to be remembered! And while I'd love July, or even September because of that month being the Anniversary of when the first KH game came out in the US, I agree with November as well, as that's the one month I've always said the game could come out the latest, ya know? Because July is just one month removed from E3, so there wouldn't be time to promote the rest of the worlds, and September is already heavy with multiple big games! So November is a reasonable release month! I just hope that the game comes to us as a complete package, and not incomplete like FFXV, ya know? 1 Merilly reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merilly 438 Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) Indeed, I agree with what you're saying! These months are going to be the greatest in the history of the Kingdom Hearts franchise, because promotion for Kingdom Hearts III will be going at a sky high rate, and it'll be just like the build up for Avengers: Infinity War, with each day closer to release giving us even more to hype about, ya know? So I'm confident that in the months left for the year to end, Nomura and his team will deliver on building up our hype, and Kingdom Hearts III's release will be something to be remembered! And while I'd love July, or even September because of that month being the Anniversary of when the first KH game came out in the US, I agree with November as well, as that's the one month I've always said the game could come out the latest, ya know? Because July is just one month removed from E3, so there wouldn't be time to promote the rest of the worlds, and September is already heavy with multiple big games! So November is a reasonable release month! I just hope that the game comes to us as a complete package, and not incomplete like FFXV, ya know? I couldn't agree more. I think there are still some things they are planning to show us because I think there should be at least 3-4 more worlds revealed, even if they are recurring ones like Radiant Garden and I'm not sure that's a good time frame to do that of it indeed is scheduled for July. It doesn't make any sense to me either since Tomb Raider just got its release date for September and KH3 should suddenly release within 1 month after the release date reveal? Seems a bit too ambitious marketing-wise, especially if there are plans for a CE. I also agree about the comment regarsing FFXV. I want KH3's plot to be complete and not full of holes which will be provided later through DLC. The game has been out for 1 1/2 years now and they are still adding plot-relevant episodes to fill the gaps in the story and I honestly don't want the same to happen to KH3. DLCs are always a bit irksome for me anyway, but changing the game to such a degree is way beyond understandable. KH did have the Final Mix versions but they never changed ending scenes after two years and only added a moderate amount of new scenes which added positively to the games but weren't absolutely necessary for the general understanding. I personally would support November. They already have Tomb Raider as a rather big franchise in September, August and July feel a bit early and December is always a rather busy month for some. October would also work. Another reason why I think November would be good is because the last concerts end late October. While they are more of a reprise, I think it would make sense to complete them first before releasing a highly anticipated game before a weekend where people attend one of the concerts. Edited May 11, 2018 by Merilly 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted May 12, 2018 I couldn't agree more. I think there are still some things they are planning to show us because I think there should be at least 3-4 more worlds revealed, even if they are recurring ones like Radiant Garden and I'm not sure that's a good time frame to do that of it indeed is scheduled for July. It doesn't make any sense to me either since Tomb Raider just got its release date for September and KH3 should suddenly release within 1 month after the release date reveal? Seems a bit too ambitious marketing-wise, especially if there are plans for a CE. I also agree about the comment regarsing FFXV. I want KH3's plot to be complete and not full of holes which will be provided later through DLC. The game has been out for 1 1/2 years now and they are still adding plot-relevant episodes to fill the gaps in the story and I honestly don't want the same to happen to KH3. DLCs are always a bit irksome for me anyway, but changing the game to such a degree is way beyond understandable. KH did have the Final Mix versions but they never changed ending scenes after two years and only added a moderate amount of new scenes which added positively to the games but weren't absolutely necessary for the general understanding. I personally would support November. They already have Tomb Raider as a rather big franchise in September, August and July feel a bit early and December is always a rather busy month for some. October would also work. Another reason why I think November would be good is because the last concerts end late October. While they are more of a reprise, I think it would make sense to complete them first before releasing a highly anticipated game before a weekend where people attend one of the concerts. Yeah, I agree, there's a lot that Square is playing with for the coming months, and in addition to other companies releasing their games during these coming months, the gaming market will be crowded with shiny new games! My guess is that Square will probably try to pin KHIII's release on an advantageous release window that doesn't face too much competition with other game companies and their releases, ya know? And well, with what happened with XV, it looks like the game could have used an extra two or three years of development before releasing, but since the FF franchise seemed to be on unsteady footing, I understand why it released when it did. But still, it doesn't excuse the fact that there are so many missing threads in the base game, and having to wait for DLC to fully experience the game sucks! Still, though, I understand that Tabata and his team worked hard to bring the game to the public, and they had to work with a lot of the scrapped material and had to change things, so I can understand that as well. After all, Tabata and his team are human, after all! Hopefully, with Nomura being closely knit with the development of Kingdom Hearts III, I'm sure he and his team have ensured that KHIII will be a complete experience! You know, October sounds like the perfect month, because November would also be crowded because Call Of Duty Black Ops 4 releases that month, if I'm not mistaken, and most Shooter genre games release in that month, and I think there's another Assassin's Creed game coming as well, so October would be the ideal month, since there's no big games releasing by then! Square has to take advantage of that to maximize the sales for the game! Although, what you say about the concerts could also be a clue as to the game's release! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merilly 438 Posted May 12, 2018 Yeah, I agree, there's a lot that Square is playing with for the coming months, and in addition to other companies releasing their games during these coming months, the gaming market will be crowded with shiny new games! My guess is that Square will probably try to pin KHIII's release on an advantageous release window that doesn't face too much competition with other game companies and their releases, ya know? And well, with what happened with XV, it looks like the game could have used an extra two or three years of development before releasing, but since the FF franchise seemed to be on unsteady footing, I understand why it released when it did. But still, it doesn't excuse the fact that there are so many missing threads in the base game, and having to wait for DLC to fully experience the game sucks! Still, though, I understand that Tabata and his team worked hard to bring the game to the public, and they had to work with a lot of the scrapped material and had to change things, so I can understand that as well. After all, Tabata and his team are human, after all! Hopefully, with Nomura being closely knit with the development of Kingdom Hearts III, I'm sure he and his team have ensured that KHIII will be a complete experience! You know, October sounds like the perfect month, because November would also be crowded because Call Of Duty Black Ops 4 releases that month, if I'm not mistaken, and most Shooter genre games release in that month, and I think there's another Assassin's Creed game coming as well, so October would be the ideal month, since there's no big games releasing by then! Square has to take advantage of that to maximize the sales for the game! Although, what you say about the concerts could also be a clue as to the game's release! To be honest, FFXV really has been through development hell but I believe that just because that happened once doesn't mean the same will happen to KH3. Not gonna lie, the game did have some problems with the new engines and likely still sports some irregularities here and there, but all in all, the 4 years of actual development they would have in November showed a steady progress that is fairly reassuring. Which is why I don't really want to compare it to FFXV but it serves as a good example of what they shouldn't do with KH3. DLCs were already hinted it that they may have to resort to them, which doesn't sound too promising since it does not sound like optional content, but so far, every KH game was finished and only received minor added scenes,so I'll try to be optimistic. I think SE should know that people criticized that. The game itself wasn't terrible at all and they likely did the best they could with the time they had at their disposal. The engine is apparently hard to use, they changed a lot and all in all, it was still decent but they should still refrain from doing it again. I'm not sure if the concerts are really a clue, especially since they're "just" a continuation of last year's concerts, but to me it would make sense to finish them first, especially since it seems like they are already planning concerts for 2019+ involving KH3. I don't know,I just think I couldn't imagine going to a concert the week the game comes out because I would be busy with that. And they're also a nice promotion toward KH3 to experience the previous games again to a certain degree. I could also imagine that, if I suppose the game comes out late October after the conferts ended or in November, they might do a final trailer kind of thing at the very last performance. 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted May 13, 2018 To be honest, FFXV really has been through development hell but I believe that just because that happened once doesn't mean the same will happen to KH3. Not gonna lie, the game did have some problems with the new engines and likely still sports some irregularities here and there, but all in all, the 4 years of actual development they would have in November showed a steady progress that is fairly reassuring. Which is why I don't really want to compare it to FFXV but it serves as a good example of what they shouldn't do with KH3. DLCs were already hinted it that they may have to resort to them, which doesn't sound too promising since it does not sound like optional content, but so far, every KH game was finished and only received minor added scenes,so I'll try to be optimistic. I think SE should know that people criticized that. The game itself wasn't terrible at all and they likely did the best they could with the time they had at their disposal. The engine is apparently hard to use, they changed a lot and all in all, it was still decent but they should still refrain from doing it again. I'm not sure if the concerts are really a clue, especially since they're "just" a continuation of last year's concerts, but to me it would make sense to finish them first, especially since it seems like they are already planning concerts for 2019+ involving KH3. I don't know,I just think I couldn't imagine going to a concert the week the game comes out because I would be busy with that. And they're also a nice promotion toward KH3 to experience the previous games again to a certain degree. I could also imagine that, if I suppose the game comes out late October after the conferts ended or in November, they might do a final trailer kind of thing at the very last performance. Yeah, the big difference though, is that FFXV was much more into development than KHIII at the time, so it suffered the most, while KHIII only suffered a year's worth of work because of the engine change, which still gave them four years to work with, so I would like to believe that's helped Kingdom Hearts III get a promising edge! And yeah, I remember Nomura saying that DLC was something he was considering! If there is DLC, I just hope it's something simple like character skins or new Keyblades or just cosmetic things of the sort, or maybe some enemies for a possible multiplayer mode or something! But I just hope that there's no DLC's that are fatally important to the story, ya know? We don't want to have to suffer through an incomplete story! Hmm, and you're right! The concerts are a creative way of promoting Kingdom Hearts III, and it would be pretty cool if they did release a sort of final trailer at the final concert to cap off the release of Kingdom Hearts III! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merilly 438 Posted May 13, 2018 Yeah, the big difference though, is that FFXV was much more into development than KHIII at the time, so it suffered the most, while KHIII only suffered a year's worth of work because of the engine change, which still gave them four years to work with, so I would like to believe that's helped Kingdom Hearts III get a promising edge! And yeah, I remember Nomura saying that DLC was something he was considering! If there is DLC, I just hope it's something simple like character skins or new Keyblades or just cosmetic things of the sort, or maybe some enemies for a possible multiplayer mode or something! But I just hope that there's no DLC's that are fatally important to the story, ya know? We don't want to have to suffer through an incomplete story! Hmm, and you're right! The concerts are a creative way of promoting Kingdom Hearts III, and it would be pretty cool if they did release a sort of final trailer at the final concert to cap off the release of Kingdom Hearts III! I know and I'm not comparing it in terms of that. KH3 had a fairly consistent development. Except for the engine switch in 2014, it has seemingly progressed smoothly from what we can tell. We received a steady income of information, albeit months apart and except for when 2.8 took priority in marketing, which was understandable since KH3 would overshadow the release otherwise. Even the change in engine seems like a good idea now, even if the models initially looked worse, if one considers that the Luminous engine apparently isn't so great and immensely hard to deal with, potentially prolonging the development way beyond 2018 should they have stuck to it. But after they got used to the engine, they are improving and will likely fix the small issues I have with the models and lighting as well. (Though most of them are not in a state which would make me cringe anymore or truly disturb the experience. Some characters just need to look more like themselves again which can be achieved with minor alterations.) All in all, you can see that KH3 is approaching a release and has a direction which FFXV did not have for the longest time. All in all, it barely had two years to get it back on track while the 4 years KH3 had are well within a normal development cycle for such a game. We can also see the leap they've made in terms of visuals, we know at least vaguely in which direction it is heading plot-wise due to the other games and I'd think it promising and feel rather optimistic. Though I also agree with you fhat DLCs should not contain anything substantial. I would not mind Keyblades,skins, perhaps a new minigame for this console type of thing or a multiplayer mode coming later. They shouldn't make the mistake of releasing an incomplete story because it would surely enrage the fans, although I also can't blame them at times with how much pressure they're getting from the fans to release it. All things considered, I don't know why people still believe we won't get the game until 2025 or something. Currently, the worst thing I could see happening would be a delay of maybe a couple of months, though I do not see any indication of that transpiring at all. They should take all the time they need since there are things which cannot be patched away so easily, especially if fans are already on edge about the issues. Nevertheless, we receive a steady flow of information now, the trailers are long and detailed and I don't see a reason to doubt that the game is on its way anymore. SE has always been vague ane cryptic with their information anyway so it's no surprise we are not getting any clear answers anyway. The only thing I'd really like to see now is an English dubbed trailer. It was merely an idea but I feel like it would be a suitable end to the era of waiting for KH3. We all can't deny that July would be great and all if the game is truly done (which it does not seem to be yet despite being in its final stages apparently), but it just feels a little too soon, a little too rushed and in the midst of the concerts no less to release it then. While the wait is killing me mich like a good part of the fandom, I also cherish the hype, the theories and the reactions and having the sites go more silent again in terms of news will feel strange. Therefore, I wouldn't mind having it last just a few months longer. 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted May 14, 2018 I know and I'm not comparing it in terms of that. KH3 had a fairly consistent development. Except for the engine switch in 2014, it has seemingly progressed smoothly from what we can tell. We received a steady income of information, albeit months apart and except for when 2.8 took priority in marketing, which was understandable since KH3 would overshadow the release otherwise. Even the change in engine seems like a good idea now, even if the models initially looked worse, if one considers that the Luminous engine apparently isn't so great and immensely hard to deal with, potentially prolonging the development way beyond 2018 should they have stuck to it. But after they got used to the engine, they are improving and will likely fix the small issues I have with the models and lighting as well. (Though most of them are not in a state which would make me cringe anymore or truly disturb the experience. Some characters just need to look more like themselves again which can be achieved with minor alterations.) All in all, you can see that KH3 is approaching a release and has a direction which FFXV did not have for the longest time. All in all, it barely had two years to get it back on track while the 4 years KH3 had are well within a normal development cycle for such a game. We can also see the leap they've made in terms of visuals, we know at least vaguely in which direction it is heading plot-wise due to the other games and I'd think it promising and feel rather optimistic. Though I also agree with you fhat DLCs should not contain anything substantial. I would not mind Keyblades,skins, perhaps a new minigame for this console type of thing or a multiplayer mode coming later. They shouldn't make the mistake of releasing an incomplete story because it would surely enrage the fans, although I also can't blame them at times with how much pressure they're getting from the fans to release it. All things considered, I don't know why people still believe we won't get the game until 2025 or something. Currently, the worst thing I could see happening would be a delay of maybe a couple of months, though I do not see any indication of that transpiring at all. They should take all the time they need since there are things which cannot be patched away so easily, especially if fans are already on edge about the issues. Nevertheless, we receive a steady flow of information now, the trailers are long and detailed and I don't see a reason to doubt that the game is on its way anymore. SE has always been vague ane cryptic with their information anyway so it's no surprise we are not getting any clear answers anyway. The only thing I'd really like to see now is an English dubbed trailer. It was merely an idea but I feel like it would be a suitable end to the era of waiting for KH3. We all can't deny that July would be great and all if the game is truly done (which it does not seem to be yet despite being in its final stages apparently), but it just feels a little too soon, a little too rushed and in the midst of the concerts no less to release it then. While the wait is killing me mich like a good part of the fandom, I also cherish the hype, the theories and the reactions and having the sites go more silent again in terms of news will feel strange. Therefore, I wouldn't mind having it last just a few months longer. Yeah, KHIII really has had a much healthier development cycle, and since Nomura had kept details on the game vague, my guess is that's what helped the game's development. When the time came, he revealed more information to us, and we slowly got ever more hyped, waiting for more trailers and news updates to drop! It's been an exciting time, and seeing how KHIII has evolved since it was first announced has really been a mind boggling experience! Who would've thunk that the game we were announced in 2013 would look as gorgeous and amazing as it does now? I'm really glad the engine change was made, because I believe that was a change for the better! Yeah, I'm really hopeful that DLC isn't relegated for story related things! Since many fans have clamored for a multiplayer mode, I'm sure that in the coming months, we could get multiplayer maps, similar to how first person franchises like Call Of Duty do, and with these maps, we could have a sort of Heartless Horde mode, in which players team up to take on waves of Heartless, or maybe an evolved form of the Command Board for those who love strategy! You know, things like that, for Nomura to experiment on so he can know what to implement in future titles, ya know? I think the reason that people are worrying so much because it may feel like it's too good to be true! All the years of waiting and all the jokes and memes made about the length of KHIII's wait and its development cycle and people waiting forever for the game, I think now that it's finally in the home stretch, people are still in shock that it's actually coming! At least, that's what I think! I, for one, have faith that the game will indeed release this year, and as such, I shall enjoy the final months of hype until the game releases, which shall be pure gaming nirvana! Indeed, an end of an era indeed! But hey, when it comes, it'll come! Be it July or November, it'll be an amazing time to be alive either way! And I get cherishing the hype. Hype for this game is what has united so many people together, and gathering together to discuss theories, speculate on events to come, and just wondering about what things will or won't return in the game has kept the community immersed and enriched in the wait for Kingdom Hearts III, ya know? So I agree, I wish to enjoy this for just a bit longer! We've waited all this time, we can wait 3 to 4 more months! 1 Merilly reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merilly 438 Posted May 14, 2018 Yeah, KHIII really has had a much healthier development cycle, and since Nomura had kept details on the game vague, my guess is that's what helped the game's development. When the time came, he revealed more information to us, and we slowly got ever more hyped, waiting for more trailers and news updates to drop! It's been an exciting time, and seeing how KHIII has evolved since it was first announced has really been a mind boggling experience! Who would've thunk that the game we were announced in 2013 would look as gorgeous and amazing as it does now? I'm really glad the engine change was made, because I believe that was a change for the better! Yeah, I'm really hopeful that DLC isn't relegated for story related things! Since many fans have clamored for a multiplayer mode, I'm sure that in the coming months, we could get multiplayer maps, similar to how first person franchises like Call Of Duty do, and with these maps, we could have a sort of Heartless Horde mode, in which players team up to take on waves of Heartless, or maybe an evolved form of the Command Board for those who love strategy! You know, things like that, for Nomura to experiment on so he can know what to implement in future titles, ya know? I think the reason that people are worrying so much because it may feel like it's too good to be true! All the years of waiting and all the jokes and memes made about the length of KHIII's wait and its development cycle and people waiting forever for the game, I think now that it's finally in the home stretch, people are still in shock that it's actually coming! At least, that's what I think! I, for one, have faith that the game will indeed release this year, and as such, I shall enjoy the final months of hype until the game releases, which shall be pure gaming nirvana! Indeed, an end of an era indeed! But hey, when it comes, it'll come! Be it July or November, it'll be an amazing time to be alive either way! And I get cherishing the hype. Hype for this game is what has united so many people together, and gathering together to discuss theories, speculate on events to come, and just wondering about what things will or won't return in the game has kept the community immersed and enriched in the wait for Kingdom Hearts III, ya know? So I agree, I wish to enjoy this for just a bit longer! We've waited all this time, we can wait 3 to 4 more months! Keeping it vague is always a good idea. We've often seen that they had to go back on certain statements because the game just went in a different direction. For example the interview where it said that it would be strange for KH3 to have fewer worlds than KH2. This doesn't seem so unlikely now anymore with how big the worlds are in comparison, which may not have been planned from the beginning. It still got anjounced too early, which is probably why some fans are so on edge for a release but I feel like those years were necessary to make it a worthy end to a saga and not some rushed entry full of holes and bugs. While I was never one for multiplayer, I would actually like to have one implemented as a DLC later. It's nicer to do it like this because we know they focused on the actual single player mode this way instead of multiplayer, since quite frankly, a lot of games suffer in terms of story when there's an extended multiplayer campaign attached. I did like playing together in BBS and since a Dissidia or Hyrule Warriors type of KH will likely never happen due to Disney, it would be nice to play other characters. I think that would be a good option to play as a variety pf characters like back in Days, just a little more developed. It may be an unpopular opinion, but I stilk beoieve we haven't waited that long. People claiming that they waited 10 years can do so and I won't judge anyone for how long they supposedly waited but just because KH3 was talked about way earlier before its official release doesn't mean ot was actually a thing. We recived so many games in the meantime and without those, KH3 would not exist in the way it will release since a large part of the story was contributed in BBS and 3D. And waiting 5 years is still within the estimated time frame for a large game that will hopefully be a quality product. I don't kind it if people say they waited over 10 years. I can't determine how long people wait for somenthing just because I'm not the type to wait for games which were not officially announced yet in the form of a trailer or concept art or whatever. I also understand peole are trying to be funny with all the jokes and memes but I don't really get most of them since it's not like we've never seen anything of it like with Half-Life 3. That's also a hit like waitong for KH4 to be released becauee we know the story will continue after 3. I think its development cycle was fine. Not without a hitch or problems, I mean they said it themselves that the engine was foreign to them and that they still have trouble with the models and lighting due to that, but overall, it did not seem at a standstill. As you said, the evolvement of the visuals were stunning to see and while the game was certainly announced too early (since no KH-related post ever goes without fans asking when the game is gonna come already), it is really rare to see a game develop practically from beginning to end and how much progress was made. And I honestly believe the feedback given by fans also helped that along because we could immediately say what we didn't like and they could change certain things. I mean, it must be when even the demo for 0.2 had its models changed after a plethora of complaints. There will certainly still be many speculations and theories going around but the actual act of waiting and getting giddy together will be gone for a while at least. It's been 5 years soon and it has somehow become a part of the community even more so than with any other game before. 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) Keeping it vague is always a good idea. We've often seen that they had to go back on certain statements because the game just went in a different direction. For example the interview where it said that it would be strange for KH3 to have fewer worlds than KH2. This doesn't seem so unlikely now anymore with how big the worlds are in comparison, which may not have been planned from the beginning. It still got anjounced too early, which is probably why some fans are so on edge for a release but I feel like those years were necessary to make it a worthy end to a saga and not some rushed entry full of holes and bugs. While I was never one for multiplayer, I would actually like to have one implemented as a DLC later. It's nicer to do it like this because we know they focused on the actual single player mode this way instead of multiplayer, since quite frankly, a lot of games suffer in terms of story when there's an extended multiplayer campaign attached. I did like playing together in BBS and since a Dissidia or Hyrule Warriors type of KH will likely never happen due to Disney, it would be nice to play other characters. I think that would be a good option to play as a variety pf characters like back in Days, just a little more developed. It may be an unpopular opinion, but I stilk beoieve we haven't waited that long. People claiming that they waited 10 years can do so and I won't judge anyone for how long they supposedly waited but just because KH3 was talked about way earlier before its official release doesn't mean ot was actually a thing. We recived so many games in the meantime and without those, KH3 would not exist in the way it will release since a large part of the story was contributed in BBS and 3D. And waiting 5 years is still within the estimated time frame for a large game that will hopefully be a quality product. I don't kind it if people say they waited over 10 years. I can't determine how long people wait for somenthing just because I'm not the type to wait for games which were not officially announced yet in the form of a trailer or concept art or whatever. I also understand peole are trying to be funny with all the jokes and memes but I don't really get most of them since it's not like we've never seen anything of it like with Half-Life 3. That's also a hit like waitong for KH4 to be released becauee we know the story will continue after 3. I think its development cycle was fine. Not without a hitch or problems, I mean they said it themselves that the engine was foreign to them and that they still have trouble with the models and lighting due to that, but overall, it did not seem at a standstill. As you said, the evolvement of the visuals were stunning to see and while the game was certainly announced too early (since no KH-related post ever goes without fans asking when the game is gonna come already), it is really rare to see a game develop practically from beginning to end and how much progress was made. And I honestly believe the feedback given by fans also helped that along because we could immediately say what we didn't like and they could change certain things. I mean, it must be when even the demo for 0.2 had its models changed after a plethora of complaints. There will certainly still be many speculations and theories going around but the actual act of waiting and getting giddy together will be gone for a while at least. It's been 5 years soon and it has somehow become a part of the community even more so than with any other game before. Yeah, it's true, because whenever a game developer is absolutely sure of what content will or won't be in the game, they can talk about it more openly. Which is why I figure that most games aren't talked about that much during the early phases, just that they are announced and whatnot and what the general idea for the game is, along with a preview trailer to show more or less how the end product would be. With Kingdom Hearts III, we've seen a massive change in development over the years, and I find that it has afffected the game positively, ya know? Indeed, some games really suffer because when a multiplayer mode is added, it detracts from the single player experience! Having a multiplayer mode for KHIII be its DLC would be a welcome idea! I would accept that! And well, it'd be awesome if we also saw a mission structure similar to Days, like you suggested! Haha, that's always been the debate! I, for one, am one of those people that say that I have been waiting for the game for 11 years now. I have waited for it in the sense that after I saw the after credits scene of Kingdom Hearts II, I always believed there would be a Kingdom Hearts III, and as each non numbered entry would come out, it'd make my anticipation and excitement for a III even more apparent! And when the game was officially announced in 2013, well, you can imagine how I lost my mind! It's been an awesome decade of anticipation, and it'll pay off big time this year! And yes, I believe fan feedback has indeed helped vastly with the game, and I think that the impressions that the KH Youtubers will give upon what they played of the game will also help greatly for Square to determine what needs fixing! Yesss, I know!!! It's no wonder why Kingdom Hearts III is one of the most anticipated video game titles in recent memory! I find pride in that fact, and the fact that we've all waited so patiently together! Here's to more years of Kingdom Hearts awesomeness! Edited May 15, 2018 by The Transcendent Key Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites