Scsigs 119 Posted April 29, 2018 I've been looking for legitimate reasons why Square hasn't ported 1.5, 2.5, & 2.8 to Xbox One yet & are waiting till after KHIII comes out to come to a decision about it. In my opinion, this is completely asinine, since if III comes to the platform, logically, the previous titles should also. Reasons I keep coming across are as follows: 1. They're focusing on KHIII's development. This is mainly for a Switch port of III, but I feel it could be applied to the HD collections as well to an extent. 2. Nomura doesn't believe there's a lot of support outside of North America (in which case, wouldn't just a region-specific or digital-only release to minimize costs suffice?). It also crosses with people believing sales figures of their games on Xbox also play a role, but if that were true, they'd have just dropped the console family entirely by now, especially since Microsoft helped them produce Rise of the Tomb Raider. 3. An exclusivity deal with Sony for the earlier main games (KHI & II) restricting the platforms that the collections can appear on. I keep hearing this from some news outlets & people online, but my search towards an actual answer has turned up fruitless on whether or not this is actually a true thing. So, is there actually, in writing, or an interview, or something, that actually says anything legitimate about an exclusivity deal. What makes this less believable for me is the fact that, outside of the main games, the handheld games are all on Nintendo handhelds, minus BBS. Also, the fact that there's been an Xbox One release since its announcement leaves me to believe this isn't really a thing. I, honestly, think this is hearsay drummed up by some fans somewhere years ago trying to justify to themselves why the series is only on Sony systems without actually thinking through their logic hard enough. Not only that, but with III coming to the system, denying Xbox players the collections is bad, not only because they're stories are things you'll need to know for III, but the games can be really fun, especially KHII. Denying Xbox players the opportunity to play the games outside of buying another console that they're probably not interested in is kinda detrimental tot he series. Nomura has also stated it's a possibility to do in the future. So, is this "exclusivity deal" a real thing that can be backed up with evidence, or not? I legitimately wanna know if anyone can help. 5 The Transcendent Key, Galenvaf, LasirDM and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merilly 438 Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) I think if an exclusivity deal was the reason, then they would not dodge the topic to be postponed until later. It would be much easier to say that there won't be ports to the Xbox One and be done with it instead of having people pester them about it time and time again. I know SE has a penchant for avoiding precise answers but if it were something like a contract absolutely prohibiting it, why not say so? Then the fans can ask Sony about it or Disney or whoever is responsible. Then again, contracts are rarely made public and sometimes, embargos are put on the the parties involved in order not to divulge secrets. Personally, I do agree that it is rather questionable to release KH3 for both consoles if preceeding titles won't be ported. It won't attract new people who only ever stuck to the Xbox. I can understand that they don't care much about the console in Japan, but with the release of 2.8 on PS4 only, even people who played the games on the other consoles will be required to buy a PS4. If they were going to do it like this, the reasons are neglectable, it would have made more sense to simply let it remain as an exclusive. Like this, sales for KH3 on Xbox One likely won't be nearly as high to be worth the effort. Focusing on KH3 may be a reason but I doubt it would have cost them that much more time to optimize the games for Xbox One. The gamepad's layout is fairly similar too and while the consoles are not the same, it should notbhave been much of a problem to port them too. I feel like SE doesn't particularly care about the Xbox One. Maybe they were approached by Microsoft that they had an interest in publishing KH3 as well since exclusive console titles can make a person decide which console to buy. Back when KH3 was first revealed, the Xbox One was not in a good position after the whole disaster of no offline play, no used games, etc being planned but then abandoned due to a massive outcry and Sony had the subjectively better line-up which could prompt people to decide on the PS4 instead of the Xbox One. At least speaking for myself, the Xbox One was still a bit shady to me at that point. Not anymore, but I remember when Sony did that huge presentation of the PS4 and people were cheering for "features" that all consoles had beforehand because everyone was anxious about the future of consoles, completely ridiculing Microsoft in the process. Edited April 29, 2018 by Merilly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted April 29, 2018 This whole "exclusivity deal" isn't even remotely true because if it was it would've been known and mentioned years ago instead of being an implied thing by fans. An interview with Tai Yasue last year mentioned that there really isn't much reason behind the collections not being released on other consoles and that they're counting on the disney part to sell the Xbox One version of KH3 And if this deal was true then why the firetruck is 2.8 exclusive which has neither KH1 nor 2? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Light XIV 2,381 Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) It likely isn't true, if anything it's more like Square is just being really stupid about going about the whole thing. I mean forget the XBox fans who would be confused as hell with the story of KH3 because they didn't have access to the previous games, the bigger issue here might actually be the sales figures of KH3 itself. If no XBox user has ever had access to a KH game before, what's going to convince them to want to buy this sequel that they probably never had to care about before? It's not like with Final Fantasy where every FF game is somebody's first FF game and playing the previous entries is completely unnecessary, KH3 is HEAVILY dependent on backstory and context provided by previous games in the series. People could jump onto FFXIII on XBox 360 because it was it's own thing and therefore much more approachable, here with KH3 they won't know half of the characters or why they should even care about any of them. This kind of issue could be easily solved by either one of two solutions. A) Just ignore the XBox One entirely and just release it on the PS4 since they seem so dedicated to the Sony side of things anyway, or B) Actually port all of the HD collections to XBox One because not only will it give fans all the context they need, it would also guarantee that KH3 would have stronger sales on the XBox One. It just baffles me why they haven't done this yet, there is almost no point in releasing it on the XBox One if they aren't giving it any support like they have been with the PS4. If their predictions on KH3's sales figures are highly dependent on the fact that it's releasing on two systems, then it's going to severely under-perform and that's not good news for anyone. Unless part of their big news dump at E3 includes a last-second port of all the HD collections for XBox One, there's not much room left to avoid this inevitable problem. Edited April 29, 2018 by Hero of Light XIV 1 Dio Brando reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted April 29, 2018 It likely isn't true, if anything it's more like Square is just being really stupid about going about the whole thing. I mean forget the XBox fans who would be confused as hell with the story of KH3 because they didn't have access to the previous games, the bigger issue here might actually be the sales figures of KH3 itself. If no XBox user has ever had access to a KH game before, what's going to convince them to want to buy this sequel that they probably never had to care about before? It's not like with Final Fantasy where every FF game is somebody's first FF game and playing the previous entries is completely unnecessary, KH3 is HEAVILY dependent on backstory and context provided by previous games in the series. People could jump onto FFXIII on XBox 360 because it was it's own thing and therefore much more approachable, here with KH3 they won't know half of the characters or why they should even care about any of them. This kind of issue could be easily solved by either one of two solutions. A) Just ignore the XBox One entirely and just release it on the PS4 since they seem so dedicated to the Sony side of things anyway, or B) Actually port all of the HD collections to XBox One because not only will it give fans all the context they need, it would also guarantee that KH3 would have stronger sales on the XBox One. It just baffles me why they haven't done this yet, there is almost no point in releasing it on the XBox One if they aren't giving it any support like they have been with the PS4. If their predictions on KH3's sales figures are highly dependent on the fact that it's releasing on two systems, then it's going to severely under-perform and that's not good news for anyone. Unless part of their big news dump at E3 includes a last-second port of all the HD collections for XBox One, there's not much room left to avoid this inevitable problem. It really is Square being stupid Cuz this whole exclusivity deal is just an asspull by the fandom that has no proof cuz if it was true Chain of Memories wouldn't have even touched the GBA cuz,if you ignore numbers,it's technically the second game in the series after KH1 in terms of release At this point they should release 1.5+2.5 on Xbox One(and Switch as well considering how many entries were on Nintendo systems) to try and get everyone up to speed otherwise what's the incentive for an Xbox owner to get into the series without any access to previous entries unless they shell out 250$+ for a new console they may or may not want to own Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scsigs 119 Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) I think if an exclusivity deal was the reason, then they would not dodge the topic to be postponed until later. It would be much easier to say that there won't be ports to the Xbox One and be done with it instead of having people pester them about it time and time again. I know SE has a penchant for avoiding precise answers but if it were something like a contract absolutely prohibiting it, why not say so? Then the fans can ask Sony about it or Disney or whoever is responsible. Then again, contracts are rarely made public and sometimes, embargos are put on the the parties involved in order not to divulge secrets. Personally, I do agree that it is rather questionable to release KH3 for both consoles if preceeding titles won't be ported. It won't attract new people who only ever stuck to the Xbox. I can understand that they don't care much about the console in Japan, but with the release of 2.8 on PS4 only, even people who played the games on the other consoles will be required to buy a PS4. If they were going to do it like this, the reasons are neglectable, it would have made more sense to simply let it remain as an exclusive. Like this, sales for KH3 on Xbox One likely won't be nearly as high to be worth the effort. Focusing on KH3 may be a reason but I doubt it would have cost them that much more time to optimize the games for Xbox One. The gamepad's layout is fairly similar too and while the consoles are not the same, it should not have been much of a problem to port them too. I feel like SE doesn't particularly care about the Xbox One. Maybe they were approached by Microsoft that they had an interest in publishing KH3 as well since exclusive console titles can make a person decide which console to buy. Back when KH3 was first revealed, the Xbox One was not in a good position after the whole disaster of no offline play, no used games, etc being planned but then abandoned due to a massive outcry and Sony had the subjectively better line-up which could prompt people to decide on the PS4 instead of the Xbox One. At least speaking for myself, the Xbox One was still a bit shady to me at that point. Not anymore, but I remember when Sony did that huge presentation of the PS4 and people were cheering for "features" that all consoles had beforehand because everyone was anxious about the future of consoles, completely ridiculing Microsoft in the process. I see your points. I don't think it's a waste of time to port the big console titles to as many current-gen consoles as possible, though. And, yeah, I don't see an exclusivity deal being the reason they've withheld ports of the collections to the console either, as I think I said already, but to reiterate the point... Personally, I see the Xbox as a viable market to release games on, as long as the word gets out, which I think it has in the last year alone due to the PS4 ports coming out last year. Those are the definitive versions of those games, which they've worked to make them so, & not releasing Xbox ports of them just seems really stupid. I mean, those collections have sold MILLIONS of copies on the PS4 alone, they're that damn popular. Even if it doesn't sell quite as well on the Xbox, I think their investment paid off with the ports with the PS4 collections alone that it's still a financial success. Xbox ports would only help them at this point. I doubt a lot of money & resources would be needed to port them. Some people bring up the touchpad controls (like first person mode, or the stuff for the Dreameaters in DDD) won't be easy to make work on the Xbox One's controller. These people clearly have never seen an Xbox One controller, since they'd know about the select button, or whatever it's called now, that's on the other side of the controller to the start button. In all honesty, they could get creative with it. Kingdom Hearts isn't like Final Fantasy, where those are RPG games for RPG fans. KH is one of the most accessible RPG franchises I've played, with easy-to-get controls, an intriguing story & lore, good characters, great visuals, & whatever else. The only thing that really bogs KH down for me is the fact that it's heavily continuity-driven & the lore is confusing, but it's still a great series to a fault. It also using Final Fantasy & Disney elements without you needing to understand either, I think, helps. The Disney stuff was put into the series, literally, to attract people to the first game anyways, I can't see that not working again for some people. I mean, I remember seeing a commercial back around the time the second game was coming out &, while I never played a game in the series until last year through the HD collections, I was intrigued by what I saw in the commercial. However, I was a Nintendo kid & forgot about the series, so I couldn't have played it anyways. I still wanted to play the games, though. I doubt there aren't other Xbox owners that wouldn't wanna play the games. This whole "exclusivity deal" isn't even remotely true because if it was it would've been known and mentioned years ago instead of being an implied thing by fans. An interview with Tai Yasue last year mentioned that there really isn't much reason behind the collections not being released on other consoles and that they're counting on the disney part to sell the Xbox One version of KH3 And if this deal was true then why the firetruck is 2.8 exclusive which has neither KH1 nor 2? Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. At the very least 2.8 has Dream Drop Distance, which contains entries that describe the plots of the prior games, which they put in to avoid continuity lockout originally. Yeah, he gave absolutely no good reasons for at least 2.8 to have a port for the system. I mean, a constant problem many have brought up in the last few years is that a multi-plat later entry in this series that's HEAVILY continuity-based. There's also a LOT of requests for the collections to come to the system through a mix of fans who want Xbox owners to get their chances to play the series in addition to 3, as well as arguing the logistics problems, like this guy. That guy makes several good arguments & his reasons why are decently solid. It likely isn't true, if anything it's more like Square is just being really stupid about going about the whole thing. I mean forget the XBox fans who would be confused as hell with the story of KH3 because they didn't have access to the previous games, the bigger issue here might actually be the sales figures of KH3 itself. If no XBox user has ever had access to a KH game before, what's going to convince them to want to buy this sequel that they probably never had to care about before? It's not like with Final Fantasy where every FF game is somebody's first FF game and playing the previous entries is completely unnecessary, KH3 is HEAVILY dependent on backstory and context provided by previous games in the series. People could jump onto FFXIII on XBox 360 because it was it's own thing and therefore much more approachable, here with KH3 they won't know half of the characters or why they should even care about any of them. This kind of issue could be easily solved by either one of two solutions. A) Just ignore the XBox One entirely and just release it on the PS4 since they seem so dedicated to the Sony side of things anyway, or B) Actually port all of the HD collections to XBox One because not only will it give fans all the context they need, it would also guarantee that KH3 would have stronger sales on the XBox One. It just baffles me why they haven't done this yet, there is almost no point in releasing it on the XBox One if they aren't giving it any support like they have been with the PS4. If their predictions on KH3's sales figures are highly dependent on the fact that it's releasing on two systems, then it's going to severely under-perform and that's not good news for anyone. Unless part of their big news dump at E3 includes a last-second port of all the HD collections for XBox One, there's not much room left to avoid this inevitable problem. Yeah. Don't agree with the "just ignore Xbox One entirely" option, but it IS a stupid decision that they keep dodging the situation at every turn, seemingly holding it off. It seems more like an approach similar to what happened with FFXV, where that game came out in a semi-half finished state, only to be satiated by later DLC & patches to help with that over the next almost 2 years afterwards. I don't wanna wait 2 years for a decision for ports of the collections to my preferred console family. It'd definitely help with sales of 3 to put the prior installments on the Xbox one in some capacity. I wouldn't actually mind if they released the collections after an announcement at E3. Like, if they announce the collections for Xbox One at E3 in June for a July or August release, that'd be cool. It'd certainly give me an actual reason to play through Re:COM again, as well as do better playthroughs of the other games for my YouTube channels. Last-minute is better than never when it comes to these kind of things, so I'd certainly accept it. I mean, if they get the collections out by July, they could be a lot of people's Summer games, since they'd be cheap, convenient, & fun. If they apply Xbox One X upgrades to them, they'd be even more great than they are already on PS4/PS4 Pro. I already had a fun experience with FFXV, so KH won't be much different. They'd, honestly, have to be pretty dead-set against bringing the other games to the system to not do it at this point, especially when they wouldn't have any reasons not to by now. There is no exclusivity deal, it's all down to stubborn stupidity, it seems. It really is Square being stupid Cuz this whole exclusivity deal is just an asspull by the fandom that has no proof cuz if it was true Chain of Memories wouldn't have even touched the GBA cuz, if you ignore numbers, it's technically the second game in the series after KH1 in terms of release At this point they should release 1.5+2.5 on Xbox One (and Switch as well considering how many entries were on Nintendo systems) to try and get everyone up to speed otherwise what's the incentive for an Xbox owner to get into the series without any access to previous entries unless they shell out 250$+ for a new console they may or may not want to own Exactly. I want everyone who likes games & has only 1 console to be able to own these games. People wonder why Switch ports of the collections weren't a thing, or even for 3. For 3, they just wanna get the game finished on the 2 platforms they're developing for already before thinking of another one. For the others, the Switch wasn't even released before they came out, so why would they have? The Xbox One has been around slightly longer than the PS4, so they're familiar with the architecture by now. They have very little reason not to make the series officially multi-plat for non-handhelds in this day & age, I doubt doing so wouldn't benefit them at all, even if it was just digital-only or region-specific releases. Edited April 29, 2018 by Scsigs 1 Dio Brando reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) It's actually pretty curious, now that you're broaching the subject. I've always believed that the reason why the ReMixes were not ported to XBox were due to contractual reasons from Sony, but now that I've read the comments here, it doesn't seem to be the case. I guess it's all really a matter of when these ports will happen. Square knows that Kingdom Hearts III will sell on the PS4, my guess is that if they see it sell similarly well with the XBox One, then that's when they'll jump on ship and port the ReMixes over to XBox and Switch! At least, that's what I think! Edited April 30, 2018 by The Transcendent Key Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scsigs 119 Posted April 30, 2018 It's actually pretty curious, now that you're broaching the subject. I've always believed that the reason why the ReMixes were not ported to XBox were due to contractual reasons from Sony, but now that I've read the comments here, it doesn't seem to be the case. I guess it's all really a matter of when these ports will happen. Square knows that Kingdom Hearts III will sell on the PS4, my guess is that if they see it sell similarly well with the XBox One, then that's when they'll jump on ship and port the ReMixes over to XBox and Switch! At least, that's what I think! That's the hope, at least. 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) That's the hope, at least. Well, given how KH's popularity has grown over the years due to word of mouth and the games making circles in the gaming community, I think it's a safe bet that once Kingdom Hearts III releases, it'll bring in even more fans, and when Square sees all the fans from all the different console brands, the ports for the ReMixes and III will likely be a no brainer. Or maybe they're just waiting for Kingdom Hearts III to come out so that after a while has passed, Square would come up with a Xehanort Saga compilation pack that brings the entire Xehanort Saga in a neat, thick box for Playstation 4, XBox One and Switch! Edited April 30, 2018 by The Transcendent Key Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Light XIV 2,381 Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) I see your points. I don't think it's a waste of time to port the big console titles to as many current-gen consoles as possible, though. And, yeah, I don't see an exclusivity deal being the reason they've withheld ports of the collections to the console either, as I think I said already, but to reiterate the point... Personally, I see the Xbox as a viable market to release games on, as long as the word gets out, which I think it has in the last year alone due to the PS4 ports coming out last year. Those are the definitive versions of those games, which they've worked to make them so, & not releasing Xbox ports of them just seems really stupid. I mean, those collections have sold MILLIONS of copies on the PS4 alone, they're that damn popular. Even if it doesn't sell quite as well on the Xbox, I think their investment paid off with the ports with the PS4 collections alone that it's still a financial success. Xbox ports would only help them at this point. I doubt a lot of money & resources would be needed to port them. Some people bring up the touchpad controls (like first person mode, or the stuff for the Dreameaters in DDD) won't be easy to make work on the Xbox One's controller. These people clearly have never seen an Xbox One controller, since they'd know about the select button, or whatever it's called now, that's on the other side of the controller to the start button. In all honesty, they could get creative with it. Kingdom Hearts isn't like Final Fantasy, where those are RPG games for RPG fans. KH is one of the most accessible RPG franchises I've played, with easy-to-get controls, an intriguing story & lore, good characters, great visuals, & whatever else. The only thing that really bogs KH down for me is the fact that it's heavily continuity-driven & the lore is confusing, but it's still a great series to a fault. It also using Final Fantasy & Disney elements without you needing to understand either, I think, helps. The Disney stuff was put into the series, literally, to attract people to the first game anyways, I can't see that not working again for some people. I mean, I remember seeing a commercial back around the time the second game was coming out &, while I never played a game in the series until last year through the HD collections, I was intrigued by what I saw in the commercial. However, I was a Nintendo kid & forgot about the series, so I couldn't have played it anyways. I still wanted to play the games, though. I doubt there aren't other Xbox owners that wouldn't wanna play the games. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. At the very least 2.8 has Dream Drop Distance, which contains entries that describe the plots of the prior games, which they put in to avoid continuity lockout originally. Yeah, he gave absolutely no good reasons for at least 2.8 to have a port for the system. I mean, a constant problem many have brought up in the last few years is that a multi-plat later entry in this series that's HEAVILY continuity-based. There's also a LOT of requests for the collections to come to the system through a mix of fans who want Xbox owners to get their chances to play the series in addition to 3, as well as arguing the logistics problems, like this guy. That guy makes several good arguments & his reasons why are decently solid. Yeah. Don't agree with the "just ignore Xbox One entirely" option, but it IS a stupid decision that they keep dodging the situation at every turn, seemingly holding it off. It seems more like an approach similar to what happened with FFXV, where that game came out in a semi-half finished state, only to be satiated by later DLC & patches to help with that over the next almost 2 years afterwards. I don't wanna wait 2 years for a decision for ports of the collections to my preferred console family. It'd definitely help with sales of 3 to put the prior installments on the Xbox one in some capacity. I wouldn't actually mind if they released the collections after an announcement at E3. Like, if they announce the collections for Xbox One at E3 in June for a July or August release, that'd be cool. It'd certainly give me an actual reason to play through Re:COM again, as well as do better playthroughs of the other games for my YouTube channels. Last-minute is better than never when it comes to these kind of things, so I'd certainly accept it. I mean, if they get the collections out by July, they could be a lot of people's Summer games, since they'd be cheap, convenient, & fun. If they apply Xbox One X upgrades to them, they'd be even more great than they are already on PS4/PS4 Pro. I already had a fun experience with FFXV, so KH won't be much different. They'd, honestly, have to be pretty dead-set against bringing the other games to the system to not do it at this point, especially when they wouldn't have any reasons not to by now. There is no exclusivity deal, it's all down to stubborn stupidity, it seems. Exactly. I want everyone who likes games & has only 1 console to be able to own these games. People wonder why Switch ports of the collections weren't a thing, or even for 3. For 3, they just wanna get the game finished on the 2 platforms they're developing for already before thinking of another one. For the others, the Switch wasn't even released before they came out, so why would they have? The Xbox One has been around slightly longer than the PS4, so they're familiar with the architecture by now. They have very little reason not to make the series officially multi-plat for non-handhelds in this day & age, I doubt doing so wouldn't benefit them at all, even if it was just digital-only or region-specific releases. I'm not saying I'd prefer them to not have KH on XBox One altogether, frankly I'd just prefer that they port the collections to it since they've already made the commitment to have KH3 on that system as well. My main point is that there was virtually no point in announcing KH3 for the XBox One if they aren't even going to give it the same treatment as they have been with the PS4 so far. It almost feels redundant at this point. It's the worse of the two options, but they are the only two options that would make sense at this stage. Again, there is CLEARLY a much better option out of those two, but they have been so stupid to go this long without doing it, I almost don't see them ever doing it, they're just being so absentminded on this. I guess my rhythm of thought is that it's frustrating me so much that I kind of wish they never announced it for XBox One in the first place just so there wouldn't be this huge group of people getting their hopes up only to be dashed by the company's incompetence in this matter. It's kind of an extreme stance to have, but I mean it would hardly change anything, it seems like they kind of forgot that they're even releasing it on the XBox One. I would still prefer to see them announce the collections for XBox One though, it's literally an easy fix. Just do that and the problem goes away altogether, everybody has access to the games, everyone is happy, and after KH3 is released the only remaining issue would be whether or not it actually gets any DLC or a Switch port at some point. Edited May 1, 2018 by Hero of Light XIV Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scsigs 119 Posted May 2, 2018 I'm not saying I'd prefer them to not have KH on XBox One altogether, frankly I'd just prefer that they port the collections to it since they've already made the commitment to have KH3 on that system as well. My main point is that there was virtually no point in announcing KH3 for the XBox One if they aren't even going to give it the same treatment as they have been with the PS4 so far. It almost feels redundant at this point. It's the worse of the two options, but they are the only two options that would make sense at this stage. Again, there is CLEARLY a much better option out of those two, but they have been so stupid to go this long without doing it, I almost don't see them ever doing it, they're just being so absentminded on this. I guess my rhythm of thought is that it's frustrating me so much that I kind of wish they never announced it for XBox One in the first place just so there wouldn't be this huge group of people getting their hopes up only to be dashed by the company's incompetence in this matter. It's kind of an extreme stance to have, but I mean it would hardly change anything, it seems like they kind of forgot that they're even releasing it on the XBox One. I would still prefer to see them announce the collections for XBox One though, it's literally an easy fix. Just do that and the problem goes away altogether, everybody has access to the games, everyone is happy, and after KH3 is released the only remaining issue would be whether or not it actually gets any DLC or a Switch port at some point. I mean, getting KH3 on Xbox One IS better than nothing...it's just that Square's shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing the collections as well, even though it wouldn't take too much time or resources, but if the excuse that they wanna focus on KH3 before doing anything else is one that's true, then fine, but I think getting the collections out on the other platforms should be a priority after they're done with KH3 & before Nomura begins fully focusing on the FFVII remake. There would only be optimizing the games for the Xbox One & changing the buttons to be the Xbox One controller's equivalents before they could release them to the public. I just hope that happens by the end of next year, since they could still capitalize on not only the hype around KH, but also on Xbox players that either played the games on the PS2, then went to the 360 in the 7th generation of consoles, then stuck with the family for the 8th gen, & people who've never played the games who'd love to have them on their preferred console. They'd be stupid to just not put them out, since they have nothing to lose by doing so. Even if the collections are gonna be just digital releases for $20-$25 (a reasonable price & goes along with the prices of the PS3 releases), with a limited physical release like the Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm Trilogy last year when those got ported to the Xbox One & PS4. I think that'd be good, if a bit sad. As for the Switch, that'd be good. I mean, so many people bitch about the fact that 3's coming to the Xbox, but not the Switch (which, honestly, shouldn't surprise anyone) that I don't think anyone would mind if ports came out for that system, just as long as they don't leave Xbox out of the loop (I mean, why port to one console, but not the other while you're at it?). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheKeyofRose 282 Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) Because KH3 is really only coming to the Xbone to make money. Would it make more money there if they ported the HD collection over? Most certainly, will they?Probably not unless E3 says otherwise, it's honestly just baffling IMO and I use to be pretty vocal about the issue but I gave up after the interview and realized Square really doesn't care and is just putting KH3 on the Xbox to maximize sales. Edited May 10, 2018 by TheKeyofRose Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scsigs 119 Posted May 10, 2018 Because KH3 is really only coming to the Xbone to make money. Would it make more money there if they ported the HD collection over? Most certainly, will they? Probably not unless E3 says otherwise, it's honestly just baffling IMO and I use to be pretty vocal about the issue but I gave up after the interview and realized Square really doesn't care and is just putting KH3 on the Xbox to maximize sales. My question is, why aren't they doing the same with the collections? They've made back more than their investment in remastering the older games into HD & porting the mobile games to consoles by now. They have nothing to lose by doing so, other than maybe some hardcore fanboys/girls, but who needs them anyways? I think they'd only stand to gain from new ports to a different system, honestly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheKeyofRose 282 Posted May 10, 2018 My question is, why aren't they doing the same with the collections? They've made back more than their investment in remastering the older games into HD & porting the mobile games to consoles by now. They have nothing to lose by doing so, other than maybe some hardcore fanboys/girls, but who needs them anyways? I think they'd only stand to gain from new ports to a different system, honestly. I agree but I'm not SE so I can't really answer that I imagine they just don't see it as good enough of an investment or they are pulling a Capcom and seeing if it sells well on the Xbone Worldwide before dedicating themselves to releasing the rest of the games on it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scsigs 119 Posted May 10, 2018 I agree but I'm not SE so I can't really answer that I imagine they just don't see it as good enough of an investment or they are pulling a Capcom and seeing if it sells well on the Xbone Worldwide before dedicating themselves to releasing the rest of the games on it. That's what some people I've talked to have theorized. I really hope not, though. I sincerely hope that Square are just waiting to start the process of porting the collections, due to the porting involved changing from PS4 to Xbox One & them not wanting to slow down the KH3 development process. Considering that they probably only need a small team of people to port & play test already completed versions of the games, patches & all, I would've figured that they would've started that process already, but I guess not. Still, I'd love to see an Xbox One trailer for the collections, especially showing off that sweet Xbox One X action. Same with KH3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites