Recoded Scene sparked up 3D theories

[Tom 437]

I've said before that there's no way Data could lead any involvement in 3D, I think I am wrong about that.

 

This theory will contain Data, and this theory will expand more theories that I will post and it will also contain Data, so if you're tired of reading anything about Data that could be possible in KH3D, then please exit to the front door on your right.

 

Ahem:

 

Look at Exhibit A:

 

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Peferably at 2:00 or just look at the picture on the video.

 

If you are lost, then I'll just read it to you:

 

Namine: "Along with this message, everything you felt on your journey, everything you saw, can you remind the other Sora of them?"

(*Note* She was talking to Data Sora and NOT Mickey)

 

What does this means? It means Data Sora is going to have to find a way to get to Sora and tell him the message and the others (Terra, Aqua, Ven, Roxas, Xion, and Axel/Lea). Think about it, Sora needs to remember the people before he can save them. Maybe Data Riku comes along for a ride, who knows. Bottom line is, Data Sora is coming back and thus, Data has some invovlement in KH3D. But I'm not saying HOW he needs to save them so don't get me on that, as that was not the point I was trying to tell you, and I'm also not saying it's a sequal to it, so don't flame me.

 

But after that theory, I wanted to expand on this. But after thinking about Data, I decided to look at something else...Birth by Sleep. Didn't Ansem hide data within Sora? Yes he did.

 

Here is Exhibit B:

 

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Go to 6:43 of the video for the converstation

 

As you can see, when Sora was sleeping, Ansem the Wise hid his research in Sora "for his best served purpous".

 

So let's combine the the theory above with this hidden data stuff to create a situation:

 

In order for Data Sora to give the real Sora the message, he has to get to Sora. Maybe somehow a portal opens up that processes him into Sora. IDK, he just needs to get into Sora, so use your imagination to figure this out. For this part, I'm going to use a part of my Xion theory but change a little bit. Once he gets to Sora, he sees that Roxas' (maybe others) memories have been interfearing with Sora's memories. He fixes the memories and then finds the the hidden data. He can unlock the data and then blah blah blah, you get the picture. Data Sora will unlock the data and maybe tell the real Sora about it once he finds a way to tell him the message.

 

The hidden data? Glad you ask. I decided to expand my theories even more when thinking about this hidden data. I thought it was a hidden message at first that might hint to KH3. Well then I thought that this hidden data....could be a person. Or used to be. My attention directs to the Mysterious Figure.

 

Exhibit C please:

 

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Looks at his moves. Isn't it kind of obivious that he's using other people's moves? That X slash attack? The clones? The fire surrounding him? They are moves from the Organization and Sora (plus Vanitas but hold that thought for a second). Which means he copied it. Why? Because he is data himself. Let me theorize some more.

 

Let's say Ansem the Wise created him to gather information. The Organization, Kingdom Hearts, Sora and the gang, you name it. Well let's say he wanted information from the past for whatever reason. He sends MF to the past to gather information. He would of sent him back 11 years, 10 years before KH1 (BBS) and another year because of Sora sleeping period. And so he observes the events of BBS of what happens. Then when he faced TAV and was defeated, his power over time got messed up and reverted back to the present time. Ansem checks the data and sees what happens. He could use the data to somehow get his vengence or to what he said before. But to make sure the data was kept safe, he decided to hide it within Sora. Ansem probably saw Aqua in there, but since he is in the Realm of Darkness, he losing memories so he can't remember her from the data. Makes sense.

 

Then Data Sora would come into place like I said above. He unlocks the data and then sees what happens and when he gets to the outside, he tells the real Sora the message, the others, and maybe their location. Of course, if he was to witness the events in his perspective, then he would only know where Ven is, and maybe Aqua, depends if Data Sora knew that the pool of darkness Aqua went in was the way into the Realm of Darkness. Terra/Xehanort's location would be unknown, due to the real Sora slaying Ansem SoD and Xemnas, and since they both are destroyed, Terra/Xehanort should be back, but where is the question.

 

All three situations together....it all makes sense. It would be a strange plot to KH3D, but then again, it's supposed to connect the three games, Birth by Sleep, 358/2 Days, and Recoded. Birth by Sleep. It connects to all three games using these theories.

 

And that's all I got. I know these's probably flaws within my theories, but I'm just giving off ideas that could hint to KH3D.

[zexionyxionfolyfe 0]

Damn man. Love your thinking, thought about this while reading it and a while after. this is very possible haha. i doubt u got it right on the mark because then you would have had to make the game, but it would b awesome if it unfolded like this.

[khven 0]

this is true, but doesnt micky send a letter to sora telling him all this at the end of coded

[Tom 437]

Yes, but like I said, Namine told Data Sora the message, not Mickey. I think she wanted Data Sora to personally do it. Otherwise Mickey would of said that in the letter.

 

You're correct, without a doubt, but Namine wanted Data Sora to tell the real Sora about the others.

[Keyblader 325]

Now that's a theory for you!

[reBirth 0]

(claps)

[khfan02 56]

wow dude good theories possibly could be tru and with all this stuff about exhibits and stuff i think u can qualify ur self as a lawer or sumthing.lol

[aubreyloveskh 16]

this is a very well explained theory! i mean, i thought about it having something to do with data, but not with anywhere near as much detail as you have in your theory. you have very good evidence!

[khven 0]

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Yes, but like I said, Namine told Data Sora the message, not Mickey. I think she wanted Data Sora to personally do it. Otherwise Mickey would of said that in the letter.

 

You're correct, without a doubt, but Namine wanted Data Sora to tell the real Sora about the others.

 

that is true, and other then that, this theory is well laid out. good job man

[keystrike 145]

I absolutely hate the idea of data being the MF and time travel being involved and worst yet time travel sending the data back in time!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

... and yet I really like this theory!

[TerraRedeemed 255]

completely with you on the first part with data sora having a mission to accomplish and him possibly messing with data within the actual sora. but after that the theory took a left turn at alberquerque.

[Reversal 53]

-had a long response typed up but lost it to the internet and doesn't feel motivated to type it up again-

 

So here is a short reponse.

 

I honestly...don't really like this theory. It's not that it's not plausible, because it is (the first part anyways -__-), but it's just giving me the feeling that you're trying too hard to connect everything together. To tell you the truth, I doubt Data Sora will actually have another role to play in the future, and no amount of magical portals of magical-ness will be able to involve him. MF doesn't seem data related at all. If he was, at the very least, I'd expect some data formation to take place as he appears, but it doesn't happen. And as skilled as Ansem is with computers, I honestly doubt he'd be able to program such a high degree of magical ability into a being like this. I already disagreed with your Xion theory enough, so I'm not even going to bring that up, but at least there, you provided enough proof to support it to a certain extent. This theory is primarily based on assumptions rather than concrete proof, and it suffers because of it.

 

tl;dr - The first part of your theory is plausible, but after that, it took a wrong turn and just fell apart.

[Space Cowboy 1,392]

Of course the MF part of his theory wouldn't have any facts to back up, because we have very little details on MF. That's why this forum is called speculation. Speculating is guessing.

 

Also, just because something has data doesn't mean data formation has to take place. For example, Repliku was created from data, yet you see no data surrounding him.

[VentusX 20]

well this does explain why in the closed theater trailer for 3d why there are multiple Sora's falling from the sky and why sora and riku are in kh1 attire

[jexdeil 0]

*claps*

hehehe u may b right i was actually thinking a possible theory to add data sora in the game but u came first and have a better explanation than me but there nothing can say!

 

ur the man!!!

[chrisora2066 26]

well your theory has expanded on what i've been thinking about data however i'd like to say well done this theory is perfect but i've learned from experience that the theorys we come up with are never spot on and there's always a trap we fall into

[kingdomlanelover 494]

I don't know, something doesn't add up. I just don't know about Mysterious Figure. I know those moves have been used before. But why would Ansem send him back in time to watch Terra, Ven, and Aqua. Ansem didn't even know who they were.

[chrisora2066 26]

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I don't know, something doesn't add up. I just don't know about Mysterious Figure. I know those moves have been used before. But why would Ansem send him back in time to watch Terra, Ven, and Aqua. Ansem didn't even know who they were.

 

i was thinking about that and i've come up with something for that maybe it was to actually find out about xehanort and his past

[Reversal 53]

Just something I think you should read. It's the full translation of the latest 3D interview, courtesy of goldpanner from Heartstation:

 

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In KH3D, he thinks that the atmosphere will change quite completely. The number of new worlds increases a fair amount too, and it is one turning point on the lead-up to KHIII, which should be coming.

 

+Hints as to what Sora must do next are hidden in the Re:Coded ending and BBS secret movie. Also, although many characters that have already come and gone such as involved Organisation members appear, as a journey it enters a new level.

 

+Because there are two protagonists the title is closer to CoM, but the game isn

[Tom 437]

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-had a long response typed up but lost it to the internet and doesn't feel motivated to type it up again-

 

Yeah well I wouldn't of had the motivation to respond back if you did, since knowing you, you'll disect my theory into little bits and make me respond to the bits and then I would just ignore your post in general. Just saying.

 

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So here is a short reponse.

 

Alright.

 

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I honestly...don't really like this theory.

 

Ok. It is your opinion.

 

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It's not that it's not plausible, because it is (the first part anyways -__-), but it's just giving me the feeling that you're trying too hard to connect everything together.

 

The complete opposite. When I thought of the idea of Data Sora, others ideas came together and when I combined the ideas, it came out clear and logical. So your feeling is off

 

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To tell you the truth, I doubt Data Sora will actually have another role to play in the future, and no amount of magical portals of magical-ness will be able to involve him.

 

Yet, I just proved to you Data Sora has to get the message to the real Sora, thus telling us he has another role, probably his final role.

 

Otherwise Namine was just talking to the boogie man about the message, not Data Sora /sarcasm

 

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MF doesn't seem data related at all. If he was, at the very least, I'd expect some data formation to take place as he appears, but it doesn't happen.

 

He doesn't seem data because you don't know him. We only that that he has attacks of other characters and is related to time. And data formation? I really don't think you're getting. Just because he was created out of data doesn't mean he is completely data. I said he was a being created from data. Like Xion and Riku Replica. Except I think MF is just an artifical being.

 

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And as skilled as Ansem is with computers, I honestly doubt he'd be able to program such a high degree of magical ability into a being like this.

 

Because you're an expert on Ansem the Wise? You're just throwing stuff in the air so it makes it look like it make sense. Vexen created Riku Replica. Xemnas (along with Vexen) created Xion. But no! If Ansem creates a being that is able to absorb data and time travel, it's not possible. Right, gotcha.

 

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I already disagreed with your Xion theory enough, so I'm not even going to bring that up,

 

I find no suprises there, since you take the time to turn a theory into nothing

 

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but at least there, you provided enough proof to support it to a certain extent. This theory is primarily based on assumptions rather than concrete proof, and it suffers because of it.

 

I didn't assume. I theorized situations that could of happen within these theories. And they came out logical and reasonable. So I used them.

 

Also, did you forget that we have literally no info for the hidden data in Sora or Mysteious Figure. I'm not going to sit there and wait for more info. I'm going to theorize what I think is going to happen. If it's a problem to theorize, then you come up with a theory. If you disagree withy theory, then make your own. My theories are not perfect. I'm not perfect. I know my theories are going to have flaws.

 

So no my theories didn't suffer. With the little info we have, I can only make out theories out of what I have.

 

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tl;dr - The first part of your theory is plausible, but after that, it took a wrong turn and just fell apart.

 

Because I can't expand my theories? My first part was Data Sora involved. Then I expands it more by Data Sora getting to the real Sora, doing some stuff in him and then unlocking the hidden data within Sora. And I expanded it to the fullest by saying the hidden data was the Mysterious Figure, who contained data needed for Sora in order to save the others and defeat Xehanort once and for all, when he was in the past.

 

Sounds fine to me. The ideas flow together and connect easily. They didn't fall apart. I just took the ideas and created a wacky situation that makes sense, logical, and even to the point of saying this is possibly KH3D in a nutshell.

 

I'll be perfectly honest with you as well, I just think you don't like this theory, rather than you saying the theory crashed down hill after the first part. I like to keep an open mind, thinking of all the possibilities, thinking outside the box. That's why I expanded. I finding that you're trying to be perfect, trying to t"pick out what makes the most sense and forget about anything else. You thought the first theory is fine, but then when I go to expand on things we barely know about, you begin to throw things in the air to counteract my theories.

 

All I can tell you is that my goal for posting theories was to take all the info we have so far, and combine them and see if it works. And it works, so I'm sticking with this theory. It didn't fall apart, the flow continued and it all made sense. So you're wrong.

[Axtwyt 500]

Well done, very thought out! Never thought the Unknown could have been the data that Ansem was talking about. This, my friend, is a KH theory at its finest (much better than my xion theories).

 

Wait, if you're right and the Unknown REALLY is the data inside Sora, does that mean Sora's a mime now?

[keystrike 145]

I would be curious how this theory would connect to vanitas' spirit.

[Tom 437]

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I would be curious how this theory would connect to vanitas' spirit.

 

I don't know about that. Probably wouldn't make sense, but I'll leave to you to figure it out

[hatok 6,413]

Two questions

1) Why can't the Mysterious Figure just exist during BBS's time period? Why can't he be made by present day Ansem to gather information? He doesn't have to go back in time...

2) If Ansem had the technology to travel back in time, why didn't he stop the formation of the Organization?

[chrisora2066 26]

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Two questions

1) Why can't the Mysterious Figure just exist during BBS's time period? Why can't he be made by present day Ansem to gather information? He doesn't have to go back in time...

 

well for this theory to work he does since he's copying moves from future characters

 

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2) If Ansem had the technology to travel back in time, why didn't he stop the formation of the Organization?

 

because firstly it would ruin space and time and possibly destroy all the worlds and secondly since in this theory MF is used to gather data and would have been created around days timeline ATW had big plans for Sora but i'm guessing the data would have been used to help Sora defeat Organisation XIII.

Am I right DeathSkull3000