StarCharm 54 Posted October 18, 2010 Ok, first, it was in little Sora, Sora grew up, then stabbed himself to save Kairi; in that moment Ven's heart left when Roxas was created, and now resided inside Roxas. In KH2 Roxas returned with Sora at the end of the game, buuuut, correct me if I'm wrong, Roxas is not one with Sora since, according Re:coded and Birth by Sleep's Secret Ending, Roxas still needs to be saved. So, is Ven's heart in Sora, or apart from Sora but still inside him with Roxas... or, what? I was curious, because in the Re:Coded secret ending, Mickey says they know where Ven's heart is and I was like 'Now that I think about it, where is it?' So anybody knows? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReAcTioN BbS 0 Posted October 18, 2010 wow ur right. but i dont remember them saying roxas needs to be saved, i remember them saying terra needs to be saveed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
khven 0 Posted October 18, 2010 well, ven's heart is still in sora. we know that as of now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reversal 53 Posted October 18, 2010 Ok, first, it was in little Sora, Sora grew up, then stabbed himself to save Kairi; in that moment Ven's heart left when Roxas was created, and now resided inside Roxas. In KH2 Roxas returned with Sora at the end of the game, buuuut, correct me if I'm wrong, Roxas is not one with Sora since, according Re:coded and Birth by Sleep's Secret Ending, Roxas still needs to be saved. Oh, Roxas is definitely back with Sora now. It's just some common confusion regarding the whole "mend their hurting" thing. Mending hurts =/= physical return. Data Roxas explains in coded the pain of forgetting something important. What does this remind you of? That's right; Xion. He's suffering because he doesn't remember Xion. If you bring back the memories of her existence, then he'll be fine. So, is Ven's heart in Sora, or apart from Sora but still inside him with Roxas... or, what? Like with the rest of Roxas, it's now within Sora. Roxas is Sora's body and soul, as well as Ven's heart. A representation of himself still exists (judging by how he was able to split apart from Sora at the end of KH2, even just in a spiritual form), but he's returned what didn't belong to him. If he didn't have Ven's heart, he wouldn't be able to dual-wield. I was curious, because in the Re:Coded secret ending, Mickey says they know where Ven's heart is and I was like 'Now that I think about it, where is it?' So anybody knows? Not that they know for sure where Ven's heart is, but he thinks they might have figured it out. Well, Data Namine did tell them about it after all. Vaguely, but she did it nevertheless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heartless101 83 Posted October 18, 2010 Ven's heart was once within Sora, then it went to Roxas, and then Roxas went back into Sora but we don't know if the heart released back into Sora or it still rests in Roxas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axelfangirl717 0 Posted October 18, 2010 as far as i know its with sora cause thats where recconect comes in cause (stop reading here if you dont want a spoiler) in the secret ending of bbs sora says he has to bring them back so i assume he meant giving vens heart back and finding terra and aqua Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReAcTioN BbS 0 Posted October 18, 2010 umm reversal, he can duel wield cuz of xion and soras keys , not ven. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reversal 53 Posted October 18, 2010 umm reversal, he can duel wield cuz of xion and soras keys , not ven. Would it shock you if I told you Xion's Keyblade, like the rest of her, is artificial, fake? Because it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mog 97 Posted October 18, 2010 Vens heart is in Sora and Roxas. It doesn't matter, because Roxas is inside Sora. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tjm0721 3 Posted October 18, 2010 umm reversal, he can duel wield cuz of xion and soras keys , not ven. Would it shock you if I told you Xion's Keyblade, like the rest of her, is artificial, fake? Because it is. Really? I just figured she was using Sora's Keyblade all the time and that Roxas was actually using Ven's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Codeman1346 2 Posted October 18, 2010 umm reversal, he can duel wield cuz of xion and soras keys , not ven. Would it shock you if I told you Xion's Keyblade, like the rest of her, is artificial, fake? Because it is. From what I understood, Xion siphoned memories from Roxas, and with that, came Ventus' Key, because if I remember correctly, She couldn't use a key until after awhile with Roxas, and then stopped being able to again after being away from him for a little while. Then, when he defeated her, he got Ventus' key back. Hence dual-wield. Correct me if I am wrong. Just a theory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblader 325 Posted October 18, 2010 wow ur right. but i dont remember them saying roxas needs to be saved, i remember them saying terra needs to be saveed. Actually the people that need to be saved are below: The people that need to be saved are Axel, Roxas, Xion, Namine, Aqua, Terra, and Ventus. She couldn't use a key until after awhile with Roxas, and then stopped being able to again after being away from him for a little while. Well actually, in the secret reports in KH 358/2 Days (They can be unlocked by collecting at least one challenge sigil for each challenge mission, and can be read by going to the Files option in the menu, going to Roxas's Diary, and holding the A button on specific journal entries) it said that she lost the ability to wield the Keyblade suddenly after Roxas awoke, which must mean that it has something to do with the events at Castle Oblivion. Roxas went to sleep when Namine started stripping Sora of his Memories, and woke up when Sora went to sleep, so Sora going to sleep must have had some sort of effect on whether or not Xion could wield the Keyblade. Then, when he defeated her, he got Ventus' key back. Hence dual-wield. You are somewhat correct while saying that, but this is what I understand, from the knowledge of Reversal and other 'pwnage' members who have a great grasp of what the heck is happening in the KH series. Upon Xion being defeated, she originally would have returned to Sora (She held some of Sora's memories, so, it is obvious that they should return to him.) but instead, apparently because Roxas was right there, they entered him instead, and awakened the ability to wield Ventus's Keyblade, not Xion's, because like Reversal just said, her Keyblade was fake, nothing more, yet it kinda makes you wonder why she could collect hearts if it wasn't even real. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Codeman1346 2 Posted October 19, 2010 it kinda makes you wonder why she could collect hearts if it wasn't even real. Yea it does. Lol. That is one of the reasons why I thought she had one of their Keyblades. And I didn't know the part about Roxas going to sleep at the same time as Sora being in CA, Lol. Didn't make that connection. Thanks for the info. ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tjm0721 3 Posted October 19, 2010 Yeah I agree with what everyone's saying, I think she had one of Roxas's two keyblades (either Sora or Ven's) and then he regained it when she was destroyed. If her keyblade was fake, I don't think it would be able to collect hearts. When Riku called her keyblade fake I just figured he was wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblader 325 Posted October 19, 2010 Yeah I agree with what everyone's saying, I think she had one of Roxas's two keyblades (either Sora or Ven's) and then he regained it when she was destroyed. If her keyblade was fake, I don't think it would be able to collect hearts. When Riku called her keyblade fake I just figured he was wrong. True, that might be why she had to be around Roxas to first get the Keyblade, and then the second time she had to wield it, that is plausible, I would believe it, but I'm just not sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tjm0721 3 Posted October 19, 2010 Yeah I agree with what everyone's saying, I think she had one of Roxas's two keyblades (either Sora or Ven's) and then he regained it when she was destroyed. If her keyblade was fake, I don't think it would be able to collect hearts. When Riku called her keyblade fake I just figured he was wrong. True, that might be why she had to be around Roxas to first get the Keyblade, and then the second time she had to wield it, that is plausible, I would believe it, but I'm just not sure. It all seems to make sense to me. I usually agree with everything Reversal says, it's just the whole fake keyblade thing I'm not really getting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblader 325 Posted October 19, 2010 Yeah I agree with what everyone's saying, I think she had one of Roxas's two keyblades (either Sora or Ven's) and then he regained it when she was destroyed. If her keyblade was fake, I don't think it would be able to collect hearts. When Riku called her keyblade fake I just figured he was wrong. True, that might be why she had to be around Roxas to first get the Keyblade, and then the second time she had to wield it, that is plausible, I would believe it, but I'm just not sure. It all seems to make sense to me. I usually agree with everything Reversal says, it's just the whole fake keyblade thing I'm not really getting. Well she is a replica, replica person replica Keyblade, kinda makes sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reversal 53 Posted October 19, 2010 Here gaiz: -- Namine tells Riku that in order for Sora Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tjm0721 3 Posted October 19, 2010 Here gaiz: -- Namine tells Riku that in order for Sora Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites