KHUX What are the Foretellers Identities? (without Reincarnation)

[Finn and vigor 287]

After all the Union Cross craziness I feel like we are slowly forgetting the Foretellers by the minute. Which honestly makes sense due to their poor performance in Back Cover but I figured I'd try to peice together the Identities of the 5 of them because I still believe there is some significance to them and that they could still be alive. Also keep in mind that this will not include the Reincarnation theory. With Ventus's appearance that Theory has completely diminishes and leads me to believe that "if" the Foretellers are significant in anyway then they HAVE to be characters we know throughout the kh series and not reincarnations. As to how that's possible, that will be for another time lol. Just for now forgot the "how are they alive both past and present" for this. Now to go for the most obvious Foreteller Master Ava I believe she is Kairi's Grandmother. Now that Strelitzia's dead I think we can assume Kairi's grandma is Master Ava without a doubt if she is significant at all in the first place. Now for Foreteller Aced. I think he is actually Aleuse (the human form of Lexeaus). Now I it seems illogical for Aced to be someone so insignificant but think about it. Lexeaus (I cannot spell his human name sorry lol) is one who believes in absolute strength. Doesn't that remind you a bit of Aced? Also compare both Aced's and Lexues personalities. If you ask me Lexaues is like a more "mature" Aced and if were assuming both characters are the same this would mean a little time has passed. Has Aced finally realized the errors he had done in Xchi with the name "The Silent Hero"? Ok now for Invi. A little more of a stretch but I think Invi is Larxene. Again hear me out. In BC Invi is seen as Ira's eyes and ears or essentially his partner. Doesn't that remind you a bit of Larxene's and Marluxia's partnership in CoM? Is she one to ally herself with people who seem useful to her or what? And again considering some time could have passed Invi's personality could have changed to the one we know now as Larxene. *again though a bit of a stretch here*. Now for Ira I have 2 possibilities. 1 being Vexen or Even. Not really much confident in this one but from my theory that Xehanort is actually from the Xchi timeline (or "The Player character") this could explain Vexan's fasination with Xehanort's memories as the Secret Ansem Reports have told us. Again though not much merit with this. That's why I think Ira is actually Ansem the Wise (DiZ). Think about it. Ira was a leader correct? Lets say he became the Ruler of Radiant Garden solely on Redemption? And not just that but it was Ansem who holed himself in the Twilight Town mansion. Anyone remember those Unicorn Statues there? *hint hint* And through Ansem's words in the Ansem Report he states it like he's been to Twilight town before with this line "then I eventually found myself in Twilight Town" and goes on to explain what it is in great detail. Now finally Gula. I'd say he's Brain. Because both Brain and Gula seem like very similar characters personality wise. And this doesn't mean Im dropping the "Xigbar is Brain" theory cuz if you ask me, Gula seems like a very similar sneaky guy like Xigbar. And due to Gula's actions in BC they seem very similar to Braig in bbs. Cuz Braig knew about Xehanorts true nature when he possessed Terra and never told anyone just like Gula's decision to not tell anyone about a traitor and "let things unfold".

What do you think about this though? I would appreciate of anyone could point out any flaws and contradictions here.

Edited November 22, 2017 by Finn and vigor

[The Transcendent Key 12,109]

Hmm, well, considering how crazy Nomura can be when he decides to gut punch us with his epic plot twists, then who's to say? It could very well be possible that the Foretellers are characters that we already know that have somehow all managed to pass into the present day! But honestly, I think that they are entirely different people!

 

If we'll ever find out their true identities is something that's quite the mystery! We could find out who they really are in Kingdom Hearts III, or maybe the identity of the Foretellers could be left unanswered for the sake of creating more speculation and intrigue, ya know? But for my part, at least, I think they are characters we've never seen before, they could be ancestors of characters we know, such as you pointing out Ava to be Kairi's grandmother! I'm sure it could be possible!

[Elfdemon_ 695]

I don't really understand how the Foretellers' identities could be characters that don't act like them, don't have the same personalities as them, don't have the same voices as them, and don't have the same body shapes as them. If Ava was Kairi's Grandma, then Kairi's Grandma would be over 110 years old. And if she was brought to the time period of BBS using the same method as Ventus (and all the Foretellers assuming what you're saying is correct), then why would she be so much older than everyone else when everyone else wouldn't have aged? They obviously didn't all just wait and age for the time period of BBS. They got there using some fantastical means, such as the realm of sleep or time travel or body swapping or something. And Aeleus is way too calm and silent to be Aced. Aced is overly emotional and passionate and slightly dumb. The only similarities between Aced and Aeleus is that they're strong. Their chin shapes are also different. Aced's is more narrow. And all the other ones you mentioned just have complete different personalities, and like you said, are big stretches. If these were the same characters, then they would've been given the same voice actors/actresses and they would've been given the same personalities. I don't see why their personalities would have changed since.

I think the Foretellers' faces are more likely to look like characters we know or something, rather than the Foretellers actually being characters we already know. I'm still even iffy about that though too. Either their faces are kept hidden because their identities are being kept hidden from the audience or their faces are kept hidden because their faces are irrelevant because since their voices, body language, and gestures tell all we need to know about their characters and that they'll be irrelevant in the future of the series since they all just end up dying in the Keyblade War. Who knows though. It's hard to tell which of those is the answer.