KingdomHearts3 2,591 Posted September 20, 2017 Not all Keyblades eject hearts from bodies. You must be a Keyblade Master to be able to do that, with the only exception being the Keyblade of People's Hearts that Riku-Ansem had in KH1 and that Sora used to release Kairi's heart. Quote from Xehanort Report 9: We Keyblade Masters have a special gift. We can extract a heart, be it our own or that of another. By continuing this cycle, it is possible to remain in the world of the living forever.[/size] Considering it's a war, there's no doubt that some, if not most, died during the battle. But once again, considering the fact that we see many hearts floating away, there's no doubt that some of them didn't die and that their hearts left their bodies. I'm sorry, but I really feel like you're constantly ignoring this one quote that confirms what I've been stating; a being doesn't die when they lose their hearts. I've posted this I think 4 times up till this point and I have to post it again: Secret Ansem Report 4 Quote:[/size] [/size] Three elements combine to create life: a heart, a soul, and a body.[/size] But what of the soul and body left behind when the heart is lost?[/size]When the soul leaves the body, its vessel, life gives way to death, but what about when the heart leaves?[/size]A being does not perish when its heart leaves its body. The heart alone disappears into the darkness.[/size] [/size] "A being does not perish when its heart leaves its body." Definition of perish: "die, especially in a violent or sudden way."[/size] So, if a being does not perish when they lose their hearts, then it means that they don't die. Considering the scene faded away when the attack was struck on Strelitzia, it is hard to tell what happened and a sound effect alone is not gonna confirm what happened exactly. And in that scene you posted, we see a total of 4 Keyblade wielders striking with their Keyblades. Those shots are meant to show these people battling, not killing or releasing hearts, considering that we don't even see who's on the receiving end of each strike or what's happening to them. When I mentioned the "some light," I wasn't referring to Kingdom Hearts, y'know, the obvious giant heart in the sky. I was referring to the light appearing in the air once Kingdom Hearts appeared. And once again, as I've stated before, I didn't say that the dark blueish lights that start appearing at 0:17 in the video here aren't hearts: I said that considering they're far away, it's hard to tell for me. They probably are, I just don't know for sure. So once again, I didn't say that they aren't hearts, I just said that I wasn't sure. I understand what you're saying. I'll just leave it as we'll agree to disagree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elfdemon_ 695 Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) I'm aggree with you but... you're wrong. Only in a few part actually. Xion was an idea in KH2FM (there is ONLY ONE cutscene that link with her, but she was an idea, in fact in the same year of the release of KH2FM they announce Days, Coded and BBS) and Ven was an idea in KH1, and what are the evidence? The tutorial voice who speak with Sora in the dive to the heart and who speak with him just before you open the door to the final battle, in fact Sora said that he heard a familiar voice... so in KH1 was already chosen the fact that Sora have another heart apart from Kairi's. P.s. sorry for my terrible english... The voice in the tutorial of KH1 is King Mickey's voice. Well, considering that we see her heart flying away and her body disappearing, she didn't die. Rather, the situation would be just like: Master Eraqus before the Land of Departure's destruction. Master Xehanort once he uses Terra as a vessel. Sora after releasing Kairi's heart from within him. That one guy in Traverse Town. Ansem the Wise's apprentices. In all the cases I mentioned above, somebody lost their heart and their bodies disappeared, just like Strelitzia. So, she's not dead. As stated in the Secret Ansem Reports, losing your heart is not the result of death, nor does it lead to death. The soul leaving the body is the result of death. Quote from Secret Ansem Report 4: Three elements combine to create life: a heart, a soul, and a body. But what of the soul and body left behind when the heart is lost? When the soul leaves the body, its vessel, life gives way to death, but what about when the heart leaves? A being does not perish when its heart leaves its body. The heart alone disappears into the darkness. The heart is white though, just like all the hearts from the kids who fought in the Keyblade War. Typically across the series when someone "loses their heart," it's a red heart. I think this distinction of color might be important. It might be what shows the difference between just simply "losing your heart" and death. I think that it's possible that when you die, your heart is freed and goes somewhere. Maybe an afterlife or something. Maybe Kingdom Hearts. Maybe it's meant to be kept vague. So, when you "lose your heart" it's red, which means it's still full of life, and just simply gets turned into a Heartless. But, when you die, your body fades away without turning into a Nobody and your heart is white and goes off somewhere, never to return again. The heart leaving its body when you die wouldn't be the cause of death, as stated in the Secret Ansem's Reports, it'd just be a byproduct. And it'd be a different kind of "losing your heart" than when you lose your heart and become a Heartless/Nobody. Who know though, this is only speculation. This can only be confirmed if the concept of death is ever actually talked about in KH (or by Nomura) and cleared up completely or if in the future next few KH games, we never see Strelitzia return. Except we've already seen a Keyblade left behind after someone disappeared and didn't die: "These lifeless keys used to be full of power." The Keyblades in the Keyblade Graveyard no longer have any power. They're just hunks of metal. Because their wielders have died. Which is why Xehanort was able to essentially wield all of them and throw them around without having tons of hearts within himself. When Eraqus was destroyed, he didn't die. His heart was able to take refuge within Terra. Which is why his Keyblade isn't lifeless. It's still full of power. Then explain this cutscene. Is this not what really happened? Those aren't hearts I'm pretty sure. Look at them closely. They're just particle effects of light and rocks. Edited September 22, 2017 by Elfdemon_ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nukara Rikova 50 Posted September 23, 2017 Nomura does not have it all that easy. It would be strange to finally get rid of a character with such a remarkable appearance in two weeks. I think Strelitzia will manifest itself in one form or another. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hallowseve 143 Posted September 23, 2017 I know a lot of people think she's dead for good, but I don't believe that. That hooded figure in the most recent KHuX art definitely resembles a female...I wouldn't be surprised if lore-wise, Strelitzia is the first recorded/known Nobody. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Connected 978 Posted September 25, 2017 I know a lot of people think she's dead for good, but I don't believe that. That hooded figure in the most recent KHuX art definitely resembles a female...I wouldn't be surprised if lore-wise, Strelitzia is the first recorded/known Nobody. I actually find this a very intrestring idea of Strelizia being the first nobody! I also agree that the hooded person is Strelizia, you can clearly see red hair under the hood. Or it's Kairi. 1 Hallowseve reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites