KHUX Could Strelitzias Nobody be Larxene?

[Finn and vigor 287]

Oh if this actually happens I can't to hear the faces of the Strelitzia fans go dark . But from the recent artwork there have been theories that Strelitzia may have been turned into a Nobody after he So called death and I 99% agree but I feel like there is something that people should keep in mind and that is the possible connection to a Nobody we already Know. If you haven't already figured it out (because she is technically the only Female Nobody aside from Namine) I bealive Larxene may have some connection to Strelitzia's Nobody. Now I do realize that adding the X to Strelitzia does not make the name "Larxene" so theres my biggest flaw here but from both designs I do sense a small connection from their Hair with the hair sort of sticking out a lot. 

Now if this is true then it would pretty much confirm that Lauriam isn't strelitzias killer because as we see in CoM Larxene is working with Marluxia to take over the Organization so that wouldn't make sense "unless" she lost her memories or something (which could be possible but we need more evidence to support it). although if she did lose her memories it would technically mean Larxenes personality in CoM isn't her true colors because I mean if you think about it in CoM when Marluxia messed with Sora's memories it sort of changed Sora's personality as well because our memories are what makes us who we are if that makes any sense but with that in mind Marluxia could have possibly erased Larxen's memores ass well and made her into his own "puppet".(aww shit I broke my argument of him being actually a good guy here) BUT here is the biggest evidence I have and that is they both have green eyes. If this theory becomes true make sure to take a picture of your broken heart and send it to me will you?

 

 

 

(sorry couldn't find anything bigger than this)

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: I have a better explanation on a quote down below. I sort of rushed this sorry.

Edited September 7, 2017 by Finn and vigor

[Kaweebo 3,617]

Bruh if she was, her name would be an anagram of Larxene without the 'X'. Not only does Strelitzia have four letters that Larxene doesn't ('S', 'i', 't' and 'z') but she would at least resemble her, I would think. It's the same principle with the theory that Blaine is Ienzo or even Braig, his name doesn't match theirs. Now, yeah, they could always say that maybe at some point their name changed but given that we've already seen this concept work once with Lauriam (clearly Marluxia as they share the same letters and look exactly the same) I doubt it'd be any different in the future.

 

Basically, if we do see any more Organization members in Union Cross like Luxord, Demyx or Larxene, you'll know it's them. 

[matteso586 115]

You are aware that all of the Organization's names are their original names scrambled with an added "X", right?

[KingdomHearts3 2,591]

Bruh if she was, her name would be an anagram of Larxene without the 'X'. Not only does Strelitzia have four letters that Larxene doesn't ('S', 'i', 't' and 'z') but she would at least resemble her, I would think. It's the same principle with the theory that Blaine is Ienzo or even Braig, his name doesn't match theirs. Now, yeah, they could always say that maybe at some point their name changed but given that we've already seen this concept work once with Lauriam (clearly Marluxia as they share the same letters and look exactly the same) I doubt it'd be any different in the future.

 

Basically, if we do see any more Organization members in Union Cross like Luxord, Demyx or Larxene, you'll know it's them.

 

Thank you! I saw this and didn't even finish because I could not understand the logic behind this. If it was Larxene, the name would be Larena or like that. At least, last time I checked, it was that way.

[hawk222 152]

Nobodies are only produced if a heart is lost to darkness. Strelitzia was just straight up killed. So this theory shouldn't be possible.

[Hero of Light XIV 2,381]

No. Just no.

 

The names don't match up, the hair REALLY doesn't match up (never mind the style, THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COLORS!!), and the personalities just don't give anything away either. Nothing adds up here, it's just really naive to think that. 

[KeybladeMasterBalo 504]

I don't think so. There are no similarities between them in any instance. You mention the eyes but it's like saying every KH character with blue eyes is connected in a deeper way. I think Larxene's Somebody will eventually appear in some point but with no major character development such as Dilan and Aeleus in BBS. And I also think she will be as mean as usual.

[Finn and vigor 287]

Thank you! I saw this and didn't even finish because I could not understand the logic behind this. If it was Larxene, the name would be Larena or like that. At least, last time I checked, it was that way.

Yes I know the original human forms are the name with the X taken out. Didn't I already mention that? lol. But what I meant was that Marluxia might have done something to Strelitzia to make her into Larxene. As to how I'll explain: At some point in time Strelitzia, after becoming a Nobody, lost her memories and was roaming the world. Strelitzia's Killer (possibly Lauriam) realizes that she is still alive during the events of BBS-KH1 (don't ask why he would still be alive) and it is around this time that Namine was born. Before the events of Chain of Memories Marluxia (now a Nobody) finds Strelitzias nobody and tells her real name is Arlene and through the magic of Namine's memory powers he rewrites Strelitzia into the personality we all know and love known as Larxene. He then places memories inside her to make her believe that Marluxia is a partner to her and make sit where she is Loyal to him no matter what as his own "Puppet" (which was what Marluxia was trying to make Sora into in CoM). And not only that with this new personality, Larxene would be known as a uncaring woman meaning anyone she encountered would just dislike and hate her thus destroying her dreams of making friends. (Way to make Marluxia sound like even more of an asshole lol). Now I do realize this is really far fetched but to be perfectly honest I WANT this to happen. To me Larxene has always been my least favorite Original KH character for being an annoying, Unlikable bitchy villain but if this theory becomes true I feel like it could rehabilitate her as a character and make her more likable as well. Plus Larxene must have some connection with Marluxia some how with her helping him overthrowing the Organization so the connection with Lauriam is possible. But if it's proven that marluxia meddled with her personality with Namine's powers she could become a tragic character thus making her more interesting (which is my biggest flaw with her character) and the Green eye resemblance does point the possibility of her being Strelitzia. (but I do realize namine's powers limits to only sora's memories so idk if the Namine thing would be the cause here). Although I am CONFIDENT in this theory. Not 100% of course but I do have a very strong feeling with this. Besides how else is Nomura gonna crush our heart and Soul with another character besides Roxas?

 

No. Just no.

 

The names don't match up, the hair REALLY doesn't match up (never mind the style, THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COLORS!!), and the personalities just don't give anything away either. Nothing adds up here, it's just really naive to think that.

I know the names don't match up but isn't that what Nomura wants us to think? Of course when u add an X to the name Streletzia it obviously doesn't make Larxene but you should consider what Marluxia was planning to do with Sora in Chain of Memories. Sora at the very beginning of that game acted very similar to the KH1 Sora BUT as the game progresses and after his memory gets messed with it's almost like he's an entirely different person. If you think about it our memories are what shape us as Humans to who we are so if someone changed even one BIG memory it could change our beliefs, self, and "Personalities". So here's what I'm proposing: what if Marluxia/ Lauriam had already meddled with ones Memory and not only that CHANGED their personality, Beliefs, and their way of life. I believe that person to be Larxene aka strelitzia. Now of course the only concrete evidence I have are the green eyes which isn't very much I'll admit and the fact that they don't serve any connection other than those green eyes BUT idk I still have a big feeling this could actually be true. Because all Strelitzia wanted was to have friends and she died without having any (her Chirithy probably wasn't her friend either thinking about it) so I feel like in that sense it sort of connects to strelitzia. as to why think about it, because here's another thing I want to bring up. What if not only did Lauriam killed Strelitzia, turned her into a nobody, and changed her personality, Maybe he specifically made Larxene's personality an Unlikeable, Bitchy Monster and made it to where she would do his bidding in order to make it where she would not make any friends thus destroying her past dreams of doing so. I do realize how Far-fetched this is but honestly a part of me WANTS this to happen because I think it would be brilliant if Nomura made an annoying, uninteresting character but then later make it where her story is one of the most depressing (and I'll admit if this is true then it would be even sadder than Roxas's tragic story). But then again it wouldn't make sense if Marluxia used Namine to change Larxenes/Arlenes/strelitzia's memories because Sora most likely has no connection towards her for it to work (or does he?). lol no, BUT I do strongly believe in this so it would obviously had to be done from a different unknown method. Besides I feel like the add the X to the name to figure out who it is method is gonna backfire someday (becasue Nomura hates the obvious)

[Hero of Light XIV 2,381]

Yes I know the original human forms are the name with the X taken out. Didn't I already mention that? lol. But what I meant was that Marluxia might have done something to Strelitzia to make her into Larxene. As to how I'll explain: At some point in time Strelitzia, after becoming a Nobody, lost her memories and was roaming the world. Strelitzia's Killer (possibly Lauriam) realizes that she is still alive during the events of BBS-KH1 (don't ask why he would still be alive) and it is around this time that Namine was born. Before the events of Chain of Memories Marluxia (now a Nobody) finds Strelitzias nobody and tells her real name is Arlene and through the magic of Namine's memory powers he rewrites Strelitzia into the personality we all know and love known as Larxene. He then places memories inside her to make her believe that Marluxia is a partner to her and make sit where she is Loyal to him no matter what as his own "Puppet" (which was what Marluxia was trying to make Sora into in CoM). And not only that with this new personality, Larxene would be known as a uncaring woman meaning anyone she encountered would just dislike and hate her thus destroying her dreams of making friends. (Way to make Marluxia sound like even more of an asshole lol). Now I do realize this is really far fetched but to be perfectly honest I WANT this to happen. To me Larxene has always been my least favorite Original KH character for being an annoying, Unlikable bitchy villain but if this theory becomes true I feel like it could rehabilitate her as a character and make her more likable as well. Plus Larxene must have some connection with Marluxia some how with her helping him overthrowing the Organization so the connection with Lauriam is possible. But if it's proven that marluxia meddled with her personality with Namine's powers she could become a tragic character thus making her more interesting (which is my biggest flaw with her character) and the Green eye resemblance does point the possibility of her being Strelitzia. (but I do realize namine's powers limits to only sora's memories so idk if the Namine thing would be the cause here). Although I am CONFIDENT in this theory. Not 100% of course but I do have a very strong feeling with this. Besides how else is Nomura gonna crush our heart and Soul with another character besides Roxas?

 

I know the names don't match up but isn't that what Nomura wants us to think? Of course when u add an X to the name Streletzia it obviously doesn't make Larxene but you should consider what Marluxia was planning to do with Sora in Chain of Memories. Sora at the very beginning of that game acted very similar to the KH1 Sora BUT as the game progresses and after his memory gets messed with it's almost like he's an entirely different person. If you think about it our memories are what shape us as Humans to who we are so if someone changed even one BIG memory it could change our beliefs, self, and "Personalities". So here's what I'm proposing: what if Marluxia/ Lauriam had already meddled with ones Memory and not only that CHANGED their personality, Beliefs, and their way of life. I believe that person to be Larxene aka strelitzia. Now of course the only concrete evidence I have are the green eyes which isn't very much I'll admit and the fact that they don't serve any connection other than those green eyes BUT idk I still have a big feeling this could actually be true. Because all Strelitzia wanted was to have friends and she died without having any (her Chirithy probably wasn't her friend either thinking about it) so I feel like in that sense it sort of connects to strelitzia. as to why think about it, because here's another thing I want to bring up. What if not only did Lauriam killed Strelitzia, turned her into a nobody, and changed her personality, Maybe he specifically made Larxene's personality an Unlikeable, Bitchy Monster and made it to where she would do his bidding in order to make it where she would not make any friends thus destroying her past dreams of doing so. I do realize how Far-fetched this is but honestly a part of me WANTS this to happen because I think it would be brilliant if Nomura made an annoying, uninteresting character but then later make it where her story is one of the most depressing (and I'll admit if this is true then it would be even sadder than Roxas's tragic story). But then again it wouldn't make sense if Marluxia used Namine to change Larxenes/Arlenes/strelitzia's memories because Sora most likely has no connection towards her for it to work (or does he?). lol no, BUT I do strongly believe in this so it would obviously had to be done from a different unknown method. Besides I feel like the add the X to the name to figure out who it is method is gonna backfire someday (becasue Nomura hates the obvious)

I'm sorry but you just made the whole premise even more needlessly convoluted than it was already. Just because Nomura likes to subvert convention and throw twists at the audience like a boomerang, it doesn't mean he's going to pull some character's origin story out of some other character out of nowhere like that, not in a way that doesn't make any sense like what you described. You'd have a better chance of trying to convince people that Ephemer is an even younger Xehanort or something at this point (not a serious theory I have, I'm seriously making a joke here). You have to bend too many bones just to stretch that far for a theory like this to work, it just doesn't have any clout to it.

Edited September 8, 2017 by Hero of Light XIV

[Finn and vigor 287]

I'm sorry but you just made the whole premise even more needlessly convoluted than it was already. Just because Nomura likes to subvert convention and throw twists at the audience like a boomerang, it doesn't mean he's going to pull some character's origin story out of some other character out of nowhere like that, not in a way that doesn't make any sense like what you described. You'd have a better chance of trying to convince people that Ephemer is an even younger Xehanort or something at this point (not a serious theory I have, I'm seriously making a joke here). You have to bend too many bones just to stretch that far for a theory like this to work, it just doesn't have any clout to it.

yeah sorry, lol. In an easier explanation Marluxia used some memory powers to turn streletzia into Larxene by changing her personality. that better? And yes I do realize how far-fetched this theory is. but I mean Larxene has to be connected to Lauriam in some way right? unless a character named Arlene shows up in UC but idk, if strelitzia is confirmed to be a Nobody then it would connect to Larxene a "bit" with the green eye resemblance. but like you said, it doesn't haven't that much clout at this point in time.

[Keyslicer 1]

Well it has been theorised by some others that Larxene's comraderie with Marluxia was more than just because they were newer Org members. Also note Larxene said that her past was 'tragic' and she would rather have no heart. She could be connected to Strelitizia, almost anything is possible with these updates we're getting. Marluxia using memory manipulation is likely, since Union leaders were noted to manipulate memories especially in the realm of sleep. Marluxia in CoM however used Namine in this regard (probably to directly target Sora, while he was awake).

[Finn and vigor 287]

Well it has been theorised by some others that Larxene's comraderie with Marluxia was more than just because they were newer Org members. Also note Larxene said that her past was 'tragic' and she would rather have no heart. She could be connected to Strelitizia, almost anything is possible with these updates we're getting. Marluxia using memory manipulation is likely, since Union leaders were noted to manipulate memories especially in the realm of sleep. Marluxia in CoM however used Namine in this regard (probably to directly target Sora, while he was awake).

When did Larxene say that? I don't remember a line like that. I'm guessing it was within 358? (I'll admit that I never unlocked all the hidden messages in that game)

But yeah Namine probably wouldn't be the cause here. Besides, she can only manipulate people who are connected to Sora's memories right? So I'm guessing Ava did something or at least someone from the Xchi era to change Strelitzias memories.

Edited September 8, 2017 by Finn and vigor

[Keyslicer 1]

When did Larxene say that? I don't remember a line like that. I'm guessing it was within 358? (I'll admit that I never unlocked all the hidden messages in that game)

But yeah Namine probably wouldn't be the cause here. Besides, she can only manipulate people who are connected to Sora's memories right? So I'm guessing Ava did something or at least someone from the Xchi era to change Strelitzias memories.

I think it was from 358/2 Days, when she meets with Axel and Marluxia. Well from the latest UX updates, the Dandelions are currently in the Unchained realm, with the new leaders. The Foretellers are gone, or dead from their efforts in the war. The new leaders, seem to be fragmented with Skuld and Ephemera as the co-leaders, while Blaine, Ven and Lauriam sort of doing their own thing. Perhaps Ava did escape and helped Strelitizia in some way, keeping her alive through her desires and possibly creating a nobody or copy of her. I'm actually interested in how the Player factors into all this. Perhaps like Eraqus, the Player receives Strelitizia's heart, so she isn't truly dead. Perhaps the hooded figure is the Player, not Strelitzia, or even weirder the Player and Strelitzia co-exist in one body.

Yes Namine can only manipulate Sora's memories, due to being partially created from him and being the nobody of a Princess of Heart.

[Elfdemon_ 695]

As far as we know, Strelitzia died. Death is a completely different thing that being split into a Heartless/Nobody. You don't produce a Heartless/Nobody when you die. And I don't see the connection you're seeing between Strelitzia and Larxene. This is KH we're talking about though, so anything's possible I guess.

[Finn and vigor 287]

As far as we know, Strelitzia died. Death is a completely different thing that being split into a Heartless/Nobody. You don't produce a Heartless/Nobody when you die. And I don't see the connection you're seeing between Strelitzia and Larxene. This is KH we're talking about though, so anything's possible I guess.

The connection is really the Green Eyes, Lauriam's possible connection to Strelitzia, and the fact that from the theories that Strelitzia could have been turned into a Nobody could lead into the possibility of that Nobody being Larxene (considering shes the ONLY female Nobody in the franchise we don't know anything about). But like i said, those are the only connections i have at this point in time so i think we need more concrete evidence for this.

Edited September 9, 2017 by Finn and vigor

[Hero of Light XIV 2,381]

yeah sorry, lol. In an easier explanation Marluxia used some memory powers to turn streletzia into Larxene by changing her personality. that better? And yes I do realize how far-fetched this theory is. but I mean Larxene has to be connected to Lauriam in some way right? unless a character named Arlene shows up in UC but idk, if strelitzia is confirmed to be a Nobody then it would connect to Larxene a "bit" with the green eye resemblance. but like you said, it doesn't haven't that much clout at this point in time.

Still doesn't do anything to convince me, sorry. It's just too crazy of an idea with little to no connection to work with.

Edited September 9, 2017 by Hero of Light XIV

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Nobodies are only produced if a heart is lost to darkness. Strelitzia was just straight up killed. So this theory shouldn't be possible.

 

Yeah, Strelitzia was straight up killed, but so was Xigbar.

[Hero of Winds 2,576]

Yeah...no. Too many inconsistencies with your theory already. A lot of this stuff just wouldn't work that way and as far as it goes with using Namine to alter her memories...no, that can't and won't happen. Namine can only control Sora's memories which in turn effects those who are connected to him. Strelitzia has no connection to Sora had a bare minimum introduction and was straight up wiped from existence. She'll obviously have some kind of outer effect on the overall plot of X/Union Cross, but not something as crazy and wildly out of place as actually being Larxene. First of all, regardless of memories, Nobodies have a tendency to be similar in personality compared to their original forms. Axel and Lea aren't even different at all. The others have been far less evil but still maintain the basic personalities they held as Nobodies. Whoever the hell Larxene is, it definitely isn't Strelitzia. 

[The Transcendent Key 12,109]

I honestly wouldn't want this to happen, because for characters that already exist in the present time, it's more than enough that we have Ven and Lauriam, because having them be from the Age Of Fairy Tales adds an interesting twist to things, and it can make us all wonder how they end up in the present time, ya know?

 

I just hope that Strelitzia is simply who she is and not someone we already know. I mean, it's not that I don't discard the possibility, but the more original characters there are in the X timeline, the better, ya know?  I get what you're trying to state here in your theory, but I don't think Larxene's origins extend that far back, ya know?

[hawk222 152]

Yeah, Strelitzia was straight up killed, but so was Xigbar.

Xigbar is a special case since he's a vessel for Xehanort, heavily affiliated with darkness, struck down by a dark keyblade, etc.