The Ventus Vessel Theory

[DaxtotheMax 193]

I'm sure we all know how Ventus's heart is lying in Sora as of now and also how Xehanort takes various vessels such as Terranort. I

 

understand that nobodies are a thing that more or less everyone has as well as a heartless but since Union X came out, there have been

 

tease images of Ventus in the game. Now we all ask "How is that possible?" and "If he's that old why hasn't he aged?" Well this theory fits

 

that. Ventus also didn't have that good of a memory in Birth By Sleep, I think I should mention. What is this leading towards? That for years

 

since the Keyblade War, Ventus has been using vessels but with light like how Xehanort does but he does it in darkness. Ventus and

 

Roxas look similar right? Is Roxas his new vessel? Or is he using Sora to preserve himself somehow? This would explain why he doesn't 

 

remember much in BBS (new body, new memory, same abilities and personality) and also why he hasn't aged since KHUX. Xehanort must

 

have knew this and tried to take advantage of him since he is from the Keyblade War, maybe that ties in with how he can forge the X-

 

Blade.

 

 

If I were to take this further and go out on even more of a limb maybe that's why the Master of Masters just disappeared (unless he wanted

 

the Keyblade War which seems likely) He was going out to find a new vessel and perhaps Luxu learned the same ability, was Xehanort's

 

Master and taught him as well.

 

Thoughts anyone?

[Alja 61]

I'm sure we all know how Ventus's heart is lying in Sora as of now and also how Xehanort takes various vessels such as Terranort. I understand that nobodies are a thing that more or less everyone has as well as a heartless but since Union X came out, there have been tease images of Ventus in the game. Now we all ask "How is that possible?" and "If he's that old why hasn't he aged?"

It is interesting to a point, but I don't think it is really likely. The first question that pops into my mind is what is Ven's motivation to live that long? For Xehanort, we know he wants to live long enough to basically see shit come down and what happens after that. But what kind of reason would Ven have?

Also, you already said Ven's heart is inside of Sora. I know it is sleeping, but wouldn't his heart try to take control over Sora in some way, if he's using him as his vessel, too?

 

Ventus also didn't have that good of a memory in Birth By Sleep, I think I should mention. What is this leading towards? That for years since the Keyblade War, Ventus has been using vessels but with light like how Xehanort does but he does it in darkness.

Yes, Ven doesn't have his memories in BBS, but this only applies for him post his split from Vanitas. It is unknown (and less likely) that he had some kind of memory loss during the time he was with Xehanort.

 

Ventus and Roxas look similar right? Is Roxas his new vessel? Or is he using Sora to preserve himself somehow? This would explain why he doesn't  remember much in BBS (new body, new memory, same abilities and personality) and also why he hasn't aged since KHUX.

We already have an explanation for Roxas and Ven looking alike, though. Also, Roxas is just a Nobody, if Ven would use a vessel, it would be Sora and he's already inside of him. Now if we compare the situation to Terranort, Roxas would not look like a Ven-look alike. Xemnas looks much more like Terra than Apprentice Xehanort, probably due to Terra being his original body (apprentice Xehanort changes his hair so he resembles young Xehanort more). If we take this over to Sora and Sora's Nobody Roxas, Roxas should look like Sora (face and hairstyle) while having some of Ven's features (probably eyes and hair color). Roxas is basically a replica of Ven though and that even though Sora still looks like himself after having Ven in his heart for over 10 years.

 

If I were to take this further and go out on even more of a limb maybe that's why the Master of Masters just disappeared (unless he wanted the Keyblade War which seems likely) He was going out to find a new vessel and perhaps Luxu learned the same ability, was Xehanort's Master and taught him as well.

In that case, wouldn't the MoM be much more likely to have some kind of vessel in our current time instead of Ven? The MoM would at least have a motivation, to see what happens after the Keyblade War, just like Xehanort does.

 

The thing is, what would a kid, somebody who calls himself a loner and is somewhat desperate for friends, both in KHUX and in BBS, find in making himself immortal? Especially seeing as he nearly begs Aqua and Terra to take his life because he's so terrified of the idea of the X-Blade. As somebody who goes after a new vessel again and again to stay alive for some unknown reason, he would continue to do so. It doesn't make sense that he's willing to die just so that the X-Blade isn't forged but keeps having new vessels for hundreds of years before that.

[GoL-Semi 16]

I personally think the Xchi Ventus and BBS Ventus are the same person since they seem identical think it would be kinda dark for Ventus to use someone as a vessel and take over their whole personality AND appearance. It is a fact that Ventus used Sora as a "vessel", I have to admit they share a bit the same personality (I find Sora to be more happy-go-lucky) but you can tell Sora has is own personality and Ventus hasn't affected Sora's appearance. BUT on the other hand here's Roxas who looks exactly the same as Ventus. I think that must've been because Roxas was a shell with Ventus's heart inside so he took his appearance since he didn't have a heart of his own yet. You also pointed out that Roxas might be his latest vessel (eventho Roxas is in Sora's heart) I found that interesting, could it be that in order to bring Ventus back they have to bring Roxas back first? (We've seen in the Orchestra trailer that Sora wants to bring back Roxas)

also take a look at my theory on how I think Ventus made it from Xchi to BBS

http://kh13.com/forum/topic/108932-spoilersspeculation-ventus-origins/?view=findpost&p=1957654

Edited August 6, 2017 by GoL-Semi

[DaxtotheMax 193]

I personally think the Xchi Ventus and BBS Ventus are the same person since they seem identical think it would be kinda dark for Ventus to use someone as a vessel and take over their whole personality AND appearance. It is a fact that Ventus used Sora as a "vessel", I have to admit they share a bit the same personality (I find Sora to be more happy-go-lucky) but you can tell Sora has is own personality and Ventus hasn't affected Sora's appearance. BUT on the other hand here's Roxas who looks exactly the same as Ventus. I think that must've been because Roxas was a shell with Ventus's heart inside so he took his appearance since he didn't have a heart of his own yet. You also pointed out that Roxas might be his latest vessel (eventho Roxas is in Sora's heart) I found that interesting, could it be that in order to bring Ventus back they have to bring Roxas back first? (We've seen in the Orchestra trailer that Sora wants to bring back Roxas)

also take a look at my theory on how I think Ventus made it from Xchi to BBS

http://kh13.com/forum/topic/108932-spoilersspeculation-ventus-origins/?view=findpost&p=1957654

Yeah I actually like that theory a lot with Roxas to bring Ven back...but I guess that would be to bring his heart back to his body?

[GoL-Semi 16]

Yeah I actually like that theory a lot with Roxas to bring Ven back...but I guess that would be to bring his heart back to his body?

Yes but if I'm correct about that Roxas has grown his own heart my explanation being there's only 1 keyblade per hearts and he had the ability to use 2 meaning that at some point through days he was able to grow his own heart so if they need him to bring Ventus's heart back Roxas won't necessarily perish since he has his own heart, go look at my theory also I left the link in my previous reply Edited August 7, 2017 by GoL-Semi

[The Transcendent Key 12,109]

Actually, the reason that I believe that Ventus hasn't aged a day is probably because after whatever happens in Union X, he was thrust into the Realm Of Darkness, and as he probably wasn't able to find a way out, he started to lose himself, until it came to the point that he almost lost to the darkness completely. Xehanort could've probably found him in this weakened state, and maybe that's why Ven had no memories of his past; because his time in the Realm Of Darkness made him lose his memory! And as we all know, ten years in the Realm Of Light are just fleeting moments in the Realm Of Darkness, which again goes to what I say about Ven possibly having been in said Realm from X to BBS! So I don't think he's used the vessel technique like Xehanort has, ya know?