So all of you might think that I am nuts, however i tend to lean toward there being a few very good possibilities but they can all be easily rooted out to one solid person.
I will give the people in question:
1. The person in the cloak at the beginning of KH1 when that person opens the door (Ansem, Seeker of darkness)
2. Diz/ Ansem the wise
3. Xehanorts Nobody (actual Xehanort not Terranort)
4. Xemnas Nobody of Terra-nort
Let's look at Ansem, the seeker of darkness first: he is the apparent heartless of master Xehanort. He was a heartless for 10 years before the occurances of Kingdom hearts I. Thus being said if thats the case then Ansem is in-fact existing right after, or close to it of the end of Birth By Sleep.
Issues with this theory: not once did the nobody of Xehanort utilize any attack that is shown to be in the arsenel of the MF: These attacks could in-fact be simply challenge inducing abilities, or perhaps a heartless could in-fact be "indecisive" in who it connects to at its earlier existance. Another issue being where did he get the nobody-coat from? And the ability to spawn "Etherial blades."
Allright, onto number two: Ansem the wise, or Diz.
Diz is seen at the end of Kingdom hearts BBS wearing a nobody coat while chatting with Aqua for the secret(true) ending of kingdom hearts BBS. This being stated he was wondering the darkness shortly after the ending of BBS and thus met up with aqua at the dark shore. This meaning that he was allready wondering the darkness. If recalled at the end of terra's story Master xehanort sends the land of departure into total darkness (much like destiny islands in KH 1.) This being said it was eclipsed in darkness, or shrouded if you would so call it.
Issues with this theory: Diz has control over most elements it seems so that is not an issue. The issue might be in the fact that the MF uses etherial blades which are utilized by Xemnas. The abilities being that of the nobodies abilities could closely be related to the fact that ansem the wise was not only a mentor to all of the "nobodies" however was the person that taught all of them their specific expertise. This being stated...could very well be an issue because it seems that the ability of only the select few that are in the show are shown. Another issue being that Caslte oblivion was created from aqua performing the "secret technique" the master taught here on the distraught land of departure: thus meaning that at the end of BBS the land of departure no longer existed (how do you travel to it at the end basically?)
Allright: that was long winded but onto number three. The actual heartless of the real xehanort not terra-nort.
This guy never really makes any appearances, and if he did it would lead to some minor confusion on many levels. A heartless is created when a being "loses" its heart: the same situation happened with kairi and Sora: sora lost his heart and gave it to kairi thus creating Sora's shade. This then leading to the heartless of Xehanort should be severily limited to being...either a heartless shade/other mob or...a being simiar to ansem, seeker of darkness retaining physical features (hight of MF explination) however have not much to deal with Xehanorts origional being.
Issues with this theory:
There seems to be very little to base this off of other than the fact that Kairi and sora went through a similar circumstance. Another issue is...who's heart leaves Terra-norts body at the end of the final episode? Could that very well be when the actual heartless of xehanort was created? Or is that when ansem, seeker of darkness was created? Many Issues with this theory; as neither terra or xehanort know much of anything to deal with weilding non-keyblade weapons. Even though this entitiy uses dark/earth/wind/fire and bends time: it seems to lack thunder and water as any ability: which xehanort used dark-blizzaga and thunder based attacks frequently in both forms.
Whew: last thought for tonight:
Xemnas:
A nobody is formed when...a person with a strong heart loses a heart. The person in this situation that loses a heart is...Terra-nort and thus results in both the creation of Xemnas and Ansem, seeker of darkness. Xemnas has the ability to weild Etherial blades which could very well give him the closest link to the MF, as does the hight of xemnas with his hood up. However: many other models share the hight of the MF (terra, terra-nort, xehanort...axel ect). A nobody seems to be connected to the personality of the person that lost the heart.There is a almost "chummy" personality of the MF at the end: as if...the mf was seeming to say "good job" or ...."yes, i am leaving now" or..."yes, you just beat me." Xehanort in either form seems to lack this type of finess if you well it would be more closely related to an axel-like character.
Issues with this theory:
Where to begin: heartless and nobodies obviously existed prior to that of BBS's story. Nobodies could be less in number cause of hte lacking of strong hearted people. Heartless could be low in number because it seems that when hearts are lost...they seem to be collected according to the story of kh2 and kh 358/2 days. This breing said a nobody existing and having all those powers...is rediculous and leaves many many wholes in the story line.
In my honest oppinion...I believe the winner of all of these would have to be Ansem, the wise: things seem to match up. The MF doesn't seem bad in-fact i'm allmost 100% sure that the MF would win out-right even in a fair fight if all the stakes were on the line (MF's life for instance.) I think that the MF was on a quest to conquer the darkness not destroy all those that trespass on a shaken world.
So all of you might think that I am nuts, however i tend to lean toward there being a few very good possibilities but they can all be easily rooted out to one solid person.
I will give the people in question:
1. The person in the cloak at the beginning of KH1 when that person opens the door (Ansem, Seeker of darkness)
2. Diz/ Ansem the wise
3. Xehanorts Nobody (actual Xehanort not Terranort)
4. Xemnas Nobody of Terra-nort
Let's look at Ansem, the seeker of darkness first: he is the apparent heartless of master Xehanort. He was a heartless for 10 years before the occurances of Kingdom hearts I. Thus being said if thats the case then Ansem is in-fact existing right after, or close to it of the end of Birth By Sleep.
Issues with this theory: not once did the nobody of Xehanort utilize any attack that is shown to be in the arsenel of the MF: These attacks could in-fact be simply challenge inducing abilities, or perhaps a heartless could in-fact be "indecisive" in who it connects to at its earlier existance. Another issue being where did he get the nobody-coat from? And the ability to spawn "Etherial blades."
Allright, onto number two: Ansem the wise, or Diz.
Diz is seen at the end of Kingdom hearts BBS wearing a nobody coat while chatting with Aqua for the secret(true) ending of kingdom hearts BBS. This being stated he was wondering the darkness shortly after the ending of BBS and thus met up with aqua at the dark shore. This meaning that he was allready wondering the darkness. If recalled at the end of terra's story Master xehanort sends the land of departure into total darkness (much like destiny islands in KH 1.) This being said it was eclipsed in darkness, or shrouded if you would so call it.
Issues with this theory: Diz has control over most elements it seems so that is not an issue. The issue might be in the fact that the MF uses etherial blades which are utilized by Xemnas. The abilities being that of the nobodies abilities could closely be related to the fact that ansem the wise was not only a mentor to all of the "nobodies" however was the person that taught all of them their specific expertise. This being stated...could very well be an issue because it seems that the ability of only the select few that are in the show are shown. Another issue being that Caslte oblivion was created from aqua performing the "secret technique" the master taught here on the distraught land of departure: thus meaning that at the end of BBS the land of departure no longer existed (how do you travel to it at the end basically?)
Allright: that was long winded but onto number three. The actual heartless of the real xehanort not terra-nort.
This guy never really makes any appearances, and if he did it would lead to some minor confusion on many levels. A heartless is created when a being "loses" its heart: the same situation happened with kairi and Sora: sora lost his heart and gave it to kairi thus creating Sora's shade. This then leading to the heartless of Xehanort should be severily limited to being...either a heartless shade/other mob or...a being simiar to ansem, seeker of darkness retaining physical features (hight of MF explination) however have not much to deal with Xehanorts origional being.
Issues with this theory:
There seems to be very little to base this off of other than the fact that Kairi and sora went through a similar circumstance. Another issue is...who's heart leaves Terra-norts body at the end of the final episode? Could that very well be when the actual heartless of xehanort was created? Or is that when ansem, seeker of darkness was created? Many Issues with this theory; as neither terra or xehanort know much of anything to deal with weilding non-keyblade weapons. Even though this entitiy uses dark/earth/wind/fire and bends time: it seems to lack thunder and water as any ability: which xehanort used dark-blizzaga and thunder based attacks frequently in both forms.
Whew: last thought for tonight:
Xemnas:
A nobody is formed when...a person with a strong heart loses a heart. The person in this situation that loses a heart is...Terra-nort and thus results in both the creation of Xemnas and Ansem, seeker of darkness. Xemnas has the ability to weild Etherial blades which could very well give him the closest link to the MF, as does the hight of xemnas with his hood up. However: many other models share the hight of the MF (terra, terra-nort, xehanort...axel ect). A nobody seems to be connected to the personality of the person that lost the heart.There is a almost "chummy" personality of the MF at the end: as if...the mf was seeming to say "good job" or ...."yes, i am leaving now" or..."yes, you just beat me." Xehanort in either form seems to lack this type of finess if you well it would be more closely related to an axel-like character.
Issues with this theory:
Where to begin: heartless and nobodies obviously existed prior to that of BBS's story. Nobodies could be less in number cause of hte lacking of strong hearted people. Heartless could be low in number because it seems that when hearts are lost...they seem to be collected according to the story of kh2 and kh 358/2 days. This breing said a nobody existing and having all those powers...is rediculous and leaves many many wholes in the story line.
In my honest oppinion...I believe the winner of all of these would have to be Ansem, the wise: things seem to match up. The MF doesn't seem bad in-fact i'm allmost 100% sure that the MF would win out-right even in a fair fight if all the stakes were on the line (MF's life for instance.) I think that the MF was on a quest to conquer the darkness not destroy all those that trespass on a shaken world.
thats just interesting to me, catcha-guys later.