Kingdomhe 1,362 Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) The only reason I'm bring this up is because the game is relevant again and I'm watching an LP of it. I guess the reason this fell through the the cracks was because by this point my brain was already turned off. Mickey says he is from another world and is undercover, so just how far undercover is this world. Is Mickey the only one that's undercover or is Donald, Goofy, Pete, and Minnie also under cover and if so, why? I could see Mickey, Doland, and Gooby being undercover and traveling too this world, but why is there a Minnie and a Pete? Is this supposed to be a parallel world or something and it has their own Minnie and Pete? Also, why doesn't Mickey use his keyblade? If this was a time period of Disney castle it would make more sense since everyone is here and Minnie is already royalty. This would be after Timeless River but before Birth by sleep/ symphony of sorcery, but this can't be a time period because Mickey just flat out says that he is from a different world. Plus, if mickey is from a different world then that doesn't make sense either because since Timeless river is where mickey is from, he would need to have found a way to get off of that world and into country of musketeers which would make sense and the whole undercover thing would be him trying to basically live there now and then from that point is where Disney castle's time period starts and that would explain why Clara Cluck and Clarabelle Cow aren't there or in any ver. of Disney Castle, but this can't work because of 3 things, Pete, Horace, and the Cornerstone of light. I could possibly believe that Mickey could bring the Cornerstone of light with him since it has been mobile before and it probably could fit in a gummi ship and I could possibly believe that Mickey would, for some reason, just bring Horace with him, but I can't believe Pete would come with him. The Pete in Country of Musketeers seems to be an already established character there and not from another world. So unless I missed a interview about this, I think this is a legit plothole. Edited February 1, 2017 by Kingdomhe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Headphone Jack 1,147 Posted February 1, 2017 spoilers: Dream Drop Distance makes no sense. as far as i know, yea the existence of the musketeers world doesn't really make sense. they could have just written it like a different time period for Disney castle. that at least would have maybe foreshadowed the more prominent use of time travel in the plot by showing Sora and Riku traveling back to the past to see this older Disney Castle. oh well. it's just another lump of trash to throw on the dumpster fire that is DDD lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neoshadow99 31 Posted February 1, 2017 I just thought of something: What if the Country of Musketeers is only a dream of another Sleeping World? The only problem with this is, what world would that be? Certainly not Disney Castle, as that world is currently awake in the Realm of Light. And, Timeless River is just DC in the past, before the it was built. Sora and Riku both travel to worlds that are known to be in a state of sleep, and know that the dreams they enter are based on actual worlds. Could there be another world that has yet to be revealed, and the Country of Musketeers doesn't exist outside of a dream? If I am mistaken with anything about this theory, do let me know. I actually haven't visited CoM yet (still at The Grid), though I did watch a playthrough of this game 3-4 years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DizExplorer03 78 Posted February 1, 2017 I've been thinking about that to, but here's my theory. The world The Country of the Musketeer is not Disney Castle in the past. It is its own world. It must have been a world that King Mickey visited in the past undercover to learn the ways of the Keyblade, just like how he was The Sorcerer's Apprentice so he could learn more about magic. Along the way, he meets Donald and Goofy and decided that they wanted to be musketeers together. Also, during that time he eventually wins the heart of Princess Minnie and after their adventure returns to Disney Castle. I believe that this theory may be true because in the world Timeless River from Kingdom Hearts 2, the only characters that were there were Horace, Clarabelle, Clara Cluck and Captain Pete. When it comes to Pete, that's when it gets a bit confusing. I mean, how could Mickey, Donald and Goofy not have suspected that Pete could be behind the evil scheme to rule the world. Anyways, that's my theory about it. Hopes it helps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WakingDawn96 1,166 Posted February 2, 2017 People, read Mickey's backstory sometime on this page: https://www.khwiki.com/Mickey_Mouse : as makes it more clear on when this world took place, why Mickey, Donald, and Goofy are there, the fact that Minnie actually came from this world before she was queen of Disney Castle, and why these events exist even outside of the sleeping worlds. As for Pete, that part is left unexplained to everyone, and the part of Mickey not using a Keyblade is because at this point in time as this world was happening, he wasn't yet a Keyblade wielder and just starting out with learning how to use a sword properly. 1 Elfdemon_ reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeybladeMasterDeadpoolio 55 Posted February 2, 2017 I had always figured that the Sleeping Worlds that we see weren't actually Sleeping Worlds at all. After all, the Seekers seem to have power over these worlds if they're able to make Sora and thus Riku travel along they're planned out pathways. It's the only way that I can think of that explains the inconsistent worlds like Country Of The Musketeers and the Grid. That, and these are dream worlds, characters like Pete who don't make sense are probably there because Sora and Riku are there. Them being there probably causes the dream worlds to form in accordance with their own memories. Like, they know Mickey so their associated memories connected to Mickey are projecting Pete into the role of the villain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingdomhe 1,362 Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) People, read Mickey's backstory sometime on this page: https://www.khwiki.com/Mickey_Mouse : as makes it more clear on when this world took place, why Mickey, Donald, and Goofy are there, the fact that Minnie actually came from this world before she was queen of Disney Castle, and why these events exist even outside of the sleeping worlds. As for Pete, that part is left unexplained to everyone, and the part of Mickey not using a Keyblade is because at this point in time as this world was happening, he wasn't yet a Keyblade wielder and just starting out with learning how to use a sword properly. I don't really trust Wiki for story related stuff, anybody can edit them. But if he didn't have a keyblade then how would he be able to travel between worlds, nothing was in danger until BBS/KH so the walls weren't broken and he couldn't use the DTD because he would have no way of knowing that it existed. I've been thinking about that to, but here's my theory. The world The Country of the Musketeer is not Disney Castle in the past. It is its own world. It must have been a world that King Mickey visited in the past undercover to learn the ways of the Keyblade, just like how he was The Sorcerer's Apprentice so he could learn more about magic. Along the way, he meets Donald and Goofy and decided that they wanted to be musketeers together. Also, during that time he eventually wins the heart of Princess Minnie and after their adventure returns to Disney Castle. I believe that this theory may be true because in the world Timeless River from Kingdom Hearts 2, the only characters that were there were Horace, Clarabelle, Clara Cluck and Captain Pete. When it comes to Pete, that's when it gets a bit confusing. I mean, how could Mickey, Donald and Goofy not have suspected that Pete could be behind the evil scheme to rule the world. Anyways, that's my theory about it. Hopes it helps. Like I told Waking, he would need to have a keyblade to leave too and wasn't Mickey's keyblade Yin Sid's and he just passed it down to him. either way I think he officially got his keyblade when he was there in Symphony of Sorcery/Mysterious Tower. But the whole bringing them back thing could work and it would still fit in with the story line except that there would be two Petes. I had always figured that the Sleeping Worlds that we see weren't actually Sleeping Worlds at all. After all, the Seekers seem to have power over these worlds if they're able to make Sora and thus Riku travel along they're planned out pathways. It's the only way that I can think of that explains the inconsistent worlds like Country Of The Musketeers and the Grid. That, and these are dream worlds, characters like Pete who don't make sense are probably there because Sora and Riku are there. Them being there probably causes the dream worlds to form in accordance with their own memories. Like, they know Mickey so their associated memories connected to Mickey are projecting Pete into the role of the villain. No, there all sleeping worlds (except for Destiny Islands, that's just time travel), the Grid is sleeping but not dreaming like the others. Meaning a computer can be put in sleep mode, but it's still going, it doesn't dream. In Tron (the Movies/show) the Computer is off but nothing is stagnate, so that is Tron, just not the Tron we've seen. So those are the "real" Mickey, donald, goofy, etc., but the world is sleeping/dreaming. Edited February 2, 2017 by Kingdomhe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
palizinhas 102 Posted February 2, 2017 Mickey's not from the CoM. Donald, Goofy and Minnie were. Then he took them from their world to his. Donald and Goofy were never treated as being from Timeless River in KH2, they didn't even recognize the place, and no one recognized them either. Pete... I tend to see as another Pete, honestly. Like, it's not really supposed to be the same guy, because TR!Pete wasn't evil, he was just petty and selfish, he only BECAME evil after Maleficent saved him. And I would guess this is after Mickey met Yen Sid somehow? Yen Sid's not from Mickey's world, so Mickey got to train under him somehow. Yen Sid probably sent Mickey there by magic. Maybe Yen Sid has already given Mickey the Bequeathing, but Mickey wasn't ready for wielding the Keyblade yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingdomhe 1,362 Posted February 2, 2017 Mickey's not from the CoM. Donald, Goofy and Minnie were. Then he took them from their world to his. Donald and Goofy were never treated as being from Timeless River in KH2, they didn't even recognize the place, and no one recognized them either. Pete... I tend to see as another Pete, honestly. Like, it's not really supposed to be the same guy, because TR!Pete wasn't evil, he was just petty and selfish, he only BECAME evil after Maleficent saved him. And I would guess this is after Mickey met Yen Sid somehow? Yen Sid's not from Mickey's world, so Mickey got to train under him somehow. Yen Sid probably sent Mickey there by magic. Maybe Yen Sid has already given Mickey the Bequeathing, but Mickey wasn't ready for wielding the Keyblade yet. I never said he was from CoM, I said that he said he was from another world. Which that alone is a red flag because it doesn't he has a keyboard and there would be no way for him to travel without it. Donald and Goofy could have cam from Com and Mickey took them back, but if you remember they said it looked familiar to them and they had dejavu, so it's up in the air if they originated from timeless river or not. SOS would make more sense to take place after CoM. If there are too Pete's then they need to address if there are parallel words or not unless this a another plot hole like with Donald and Goofy not remembering mysterious tower. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elfdemon_ 695 Posted February 5, 2017 The Country of the Musketeers is a world that Mickey, Donald, and Goofy visited on their journeys. Minnie was the princess of this place. Some time after this, she moved to Disney Castle and became the queen. As for Pete, we don't know if he was originally from Country of the Musketeers, like Minnie was. All we know is that he was there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingdomhe 1,362 Posted February 5, 2017 The Country of the Musketeers is a world that Mickey, Donald, and Goofy visited on their journeys. Minnie was the princess of this place. Some time after this, she moved to Disney Castle and became the queen. As for Pete, we don't know if he was originally from Country of the Musketeers, like Minnie was. All we know is that he was there. Pete is from timeless river. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
