Xenoblade 2 (Nintendo Switch) Discussion Thread

[Shulk 8,623]

 

Xenoblade 2 (Or Xenoblade Chronicles 2) has just been confirmed for release on the Nintendo Switch. It looks to be a direct sequel to Xenoblade on the Wii, taking a departure from the sci-fi setting of Xenoblade X to return to the original game's fantasy world. Soraya Saga, the wife of the game's director and employee at Monolith Soft, has stated that the game is to be released some time in 2017. There aren't many more details on the game, but as with Xenoblade X, I'll keep this thread updated on the most recent news about the game! Is anyone else looking forward to Monolith Soft's next game?

[The 13th Kenpachi 4,279]

CAN'T WAIT. Never got a chance to play this series but I heard it's really good. Definitely buying this one

[Xiro 3,468]

CAN'T WAIT. Never got a chance to play this series but I heard it's really good. Definitely buying this one

You should try to play Xenoblade 1 and X if you can. (I don't know what all you have in terms of consoles so yeah )

[Shulk 8,623]

CAN'T WAIT. Never got a chance to play this series but I heard it's really good. Definitely buying this one

 

You should try to play Xenoblade 1 and X if you can. (I don't know what all you have in terms of consoles so yeah )

I'd second what Xiro said, although it probably won't be a big deal if you can't play X before this one (Not to say it's a bad game, but it doesn't tie into Xenoblade 1 so it probably won't tie into this one either). Since it looks like it's a direct sequel to the original Xenoblade, that would probably help you understand more about the lore/world of this one. That being said, the trailer didn't show any of the original cast, so it might not be that important to play the original Xenoblade before this. Both of the currently-released Xenoblade games are fantastic games to play if you get the chance, though. This certainly looks like it's going to be another great entry!

[Guest]

 

OKAY, I AM BUYING THE NINTENDO SWITCH. THIS IS THE DEAL BREAKER, XENOBLADE CHRONICLES IS MY FAVOURITE GAME OF ALL TIME AND I AM SO GLAD THAT THEY'RE DOING A PROPER SEQUEL INSTEAD OF A SEQUEL TO X, OH MY DAYS, XENOBLADE CHRONICLES IS LIFE!

Edited January 13, 2017 by Guest

[Sendou Aichi 2,356]

I expect an X port, but this is much better.

So, it looks like the Monado is back(Which is a major plus for me, it is one of my favourite weapons in video games challenged only by the Blade of Ahrah from Dust)

ACE are handling the music again, so that's another plus

The MC's(assuming that is the MC) design+the art style in general is a turn off for me, I preferred the first Xenoblade's art style.

Interested how they handle the story, considering XC's ending.

[Guest]

I expect an X port, but this is much better.

So, it looks like the Monado is back(Which is a major plus for me, it is one of my favourite weapons in video games challenged only by the Blade of Ahrah from Dust)

ACE are handling the music again, so that's another plus

The MC's(assuming that is the MC) design+the art style in general is a turn off for me, I preferred the first Xenoblade's art style.

Interested how they handle the story, considering XC's ending.

 

Mild spoiler, the environment still looks to be Bionis to me, so I feel as though this may be a prequel that leads to the Bionis and Mechonis war. I'd love to see a younger Dunban during his "hero days".

[Shulk 8,623]

Mild spoiler, the environment still looks to be Bionis to me, so I feel as though this may be a prequel that leads to the Bionis and Mechonis war. I'd love to see a younger Dunban during his "hero days".

 

I think this takes place in the new world Alvis creates at the end of the original. It looks similar to the Bionis, sure, but we saw Colony 9 in the ending of Xenoblade, so the Bionis' locations seemed to transfer over. There was no Mechonis in the distance here, so I don't think that this is going to take place on the Bionis. The constantly looming Mechonis was an iconic sight from the Bionis, if this was the same locations then I think they would have shown that. Besides, after X, having the new game take place in a smaller world we've already been to would feel kind of underwhelming. Alvis' new world would open up a ton of opportunities.

 

[Sendou Aichi 2,356]

Mild spoiler, the environment still looks to be Bionis to me, so I feel as though this may be a prequel that leads to the Bionis and Mechonis war. I'd love to see a younger Dunban during his "hero days".

 

 

 

 

Well, the environment after Alvis/Shulk create the new world in XC's ending looks like Colony 9

 

 

Edited January 13, 2017 by Shun Cookiesaki
And Shulk beat me to it, lol

[Guest]

 

I think this takes place in the new world Alvis creates at the end of the original. It looks similar to the Bionis, sure, but we saw Colony 9 in the ending of Xenoblade, so the Bionis' locations seemed to transfer over. There was no Mechonis in the distance here, so I don't think that this is going to take place on the Bionis. The constantly looming Mechonis was an iconic sight from the Bionis, if this was the same locations then I think they would have shown that. Besides, after X, having the new game take place in a smaller world we've already been to would feel kind of underwhelming. Alvis' new world would open up a ton of opportunities.

 

 

I suppose you have a legitimate point there. After all, it is called Xenoblade Chronicles 2, the only sequel that I know is a prequel is The Godfather 2 and that's not even a video game.

 

 

I'm really intrigued as to what philosophical takeaway this game will provide. Xenoblade Chronicles already dabbled into the concept of following an abusive God with Zanza so I don't think the religious overtones will be quite as heavy, still, it isn't a Takahashi game without mechs, and I can't wait to see the mechs.

 

Edited January 13, 2017 by Guest

[Sendou Aichi 2,356]

I suppose you have a legitimate point there. After all, it is called Xenoblade Chronicles 2, the only sequel that I know is a prequel is The Godfather 2 and that's not even a video game.

 

 

I'm really intrigued as to what philosophical takeaway this game will provide. Xenoblade Chronicles already dabbled into the concept of following an abusive God with Zanza so I don't think the religious overtones will be quite as heavy, still, it isn't a Takahashi game without mechs, and I can't wait to see the mechs.

 

 

 

Yeah, and unless Alvis/Shulk screwed up while making the new world, it has no need for gods, and therefore probably has no gods

It could have an atheism concept, or just religious groups abuse their power(Kinda like with FFX)

Though a Xeno game without religious aspects would feel pretty weird, since both Xenosaga and XC have them(admittedly, I don't know about Xenogears or XCX) 

 

 

[Guest]

 

 

Yeah, and unless Alvis/Shulk screwed up while making the new world, it has no need for gods, and therefore probably has no gods

It could have an atheism concept, or just religious groups abuse their power(Kinda like with FFX)

Though a Xeno game without religious aspects would feel pretty weird, since both Xenosaga and XC have them(admittedly, I don't know about Xenogears or XCX) 

 

 

 

Yeah, both of them used Religion. Xenogears literally had the protagoinst and deuteragonist (Fei Wong Fong and Elly) as the games Adam and Eve that tried to stop a false god. Honestly, Xenoblade Chronicles was fairly minimal with its Religious overtones. Aside the obvious Monoliths, I can't really recall anything fairly Religious.

 

 

Maybe, we may have a situation where an elite group of people (like traditional High Entia) that want to revert back to the days of Bionis and Mechonis because they were advantageous at the time. And so, through religious manipulation of what happened in the past, the hero tries to stop these elite antagonists. I'm just grasping for straws because we have so little to draw from lol.

 

[Setrex 1,031]

I was really shocked by the announcement, but I was so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so happy. I'm even more delighted that NoE confirmed the game is coming to Europe in 2017. I was always buying a Switch, but Xenoblade 2 solidified my reason to pick it up sooner rather than later. I seriously cannot wait.

 

On another note, I really hope NoE is handling the localisation. I didn't hate the job done with XCX, but it never had the same charm as XC did.

Edited January 14, 2017 by KHSoraKeyBlade

[Clouded Sun 1,232]

On another note, I really hope NoE is handling the localisation. I didn't hate the job done with XCX, but it never had the same charm as XC did.

Ditto. The European charm was absolutely breathtaking. No need to be oddly Americanized.

Edited January 15, 2017 by Clouded Sun

[Shulk 8,623]

Ditto. The European charm was absolutely breathtaking. No need to be oddly Americanized.

In the case of X, it made sense since the characters were all from America. For this one, yeah, I'd love to see NoE handle the localization.

 

Of course they already said the game's coming in 2017 while NoA hasn't made any mention of a release time... I really hope this won't be a repeat of the original game taking 2 years for us to get the same exact version Europe got.

[The Transcendent Key 12,109]

Daaaang this looks amazing! I'm currently in the process of attempting to buy the first Xenoblade Chronicles for my Wii, so once I get 2.8 and Bloodborne out of the way, I'm gonna get it!  Then, when I get the Switch, I'll definitely get this game, God willing! Looks like there's another good game for me to keep my eye on for the Switch!

[Shulk 8,623]

Daaaang this looks amazing! I'm currently in the process of attempting to buy the first Xenoblade Chronicles for my Wii, so once I get 2.8 and Bloodborne out of the way, I'm gonna get it!  Then, when I get the Switch, I'll definitely get this game, God willing! Looks like there's another good game for me to keep my eye on for the Switch!

Good luck getting a copy of the first! Just a tip if your Wii is a North American model: you can get the region-free version of it on Amazon for $45, and it's the exact same as any other English copy. That's probably the best way to get the game if you own a NA Wii. I'm pretty sure it's easier to get a copy in other regions. It's a fantastic game, I'd say it's definitely worth playing!

 

 

 

EDIT (1/17/2017):

 

Some people have gotten around to translating the excerpts of the script that pop up in the first trailer. Here's what's been found (note that this is an unofficial translation and just a summary). I'm putting it all in a spoiler tab since the quote feature isn't wanting to work:

 

Translation 1

 

"So, when Takahashi's name pops up there's some pages of stuff that float past, and you can kind of make out what's written on them.

In one, Vandam(yes, everyone's favorite), is discussing some relationship between "Blade" and "Driver" with Rex. He explains that the "Blade" is immortal and will recover from injuries quickly, unless some 'core' on their chest is destroyed, or if their "Driver" dies. Rex says something about how "Drivers" protect the "Blade", and thus, he will protect Homura.

 

In another, Homura, Hikari and Nia are all at some kind of bath, and Nia tells Hikari she's got a nice bod. I have no idea what kind of serious scenario that could ever be relevant in.

 

In the third(which I could barely read), some leader of something is leading other people towards some kind of ancient ship entrance. Nia's there, someone named Shin, and some other person named Mets(u). Might try and figure out more of this one later."

 

Source

 

 

 

Translation 2 with Analysis:

 

"I decided to transcribe all of what is legible at any point in order to allow a fuller understanding of what they're about (which was quite a bit more work than you'd expect). Where there's some text which isn't visible at any point but I can tell there is some there, I've replaced it with "…". As I've said in my previous thread about this topic, my Japanese isn't great, so if any wants to fully translate these, please do.

First is page 247/1,124:

…じられん。

…るのか？」

レックス「…事実」

そう言って胸元のコアを見せるレックス

ヴァンダム「ただのアクセサリーかと思ってたぜ」

レックス「んなわけあるかっての」

ヴァンダム「ブレイドはどんな傷を負ったとしても、すぐに回復する。コアを破壊されるか、ドライバーが死なない限り不死身だ。しかしお前らはーー」

レックス「まぁ仕方ないよ。こうなっちゃったんだから」

ヴァンダム「困ったもんだな。これじゃあどっちがぶっ倒れたもアウトじゃないか」

レックス「一人前のドライバーはブレイドを守るんだろ？ならオレはホムラを守ってみせる」

ヴァンダム「口で言う程簡単なこっちゃない

This is a conversation between Rex and Vandam (a reccuring name in the Xeno series. Blade's Colony 9 Defence Force Colonel, Vangarre, and X's Commander Vandham both have this name in Japanese). Rex shows Vandam a chest core, presumably the Zohar shape worn by two of the characters, and also says that he'll protect Homura, who I assume to be one of the girls with the Zohar shape. There's also a mention of a "Driver" protecting a "Blade". (Again, if anyone can fully translate this, please do. It cuts out at the end because of a page turn.)

Next is page 392

…くる人物が。

…

先に入らせてもらってるよーーって、ヒカリ！？」

入ってきたのはホムラではなくヒカリ

湯船の上に堂々と立っている

ニア「何で？」

ヒカリ「何でって、だめかしら？」

ニア「いや、だめじゃないけどーー」

しげしげとヒカリの身体を見るニア

ニア「ナ、ナイスバディだな」

ヒカリ、ツンとして

ヒカリ「ありがと」

ホムラ「温泉があるって言ったらヒカリちゃん、絶対に入りたいって言うから」

ヒカリ「で、入りに来たってわけ」

湯船へと浸かるヒカリ。

ニア「い、忙しいね、アンタら」

This seems to be a fairly inconsequential character interaction between Nia, Hikari and Homura (almost certainly all female) while they take a bath together. There doesn't seem to be much of importance here aside from Nia complementing Hikari's figure.

The final page show doesn't have its page number visible at any point, so it could take place at any time.

リーダー「各班、準備のできた者が…進入開始！」

リーダーと共に２名の潜…古代船の入口に向かう

メツ「さて、俺達も行くか」

移動しようとするメツ。

続くニアとビャ…コ。

だがシンはレックスを見つめ…る

シン「ーーお前も来…

レックス「え？」

スタスタと行って…しまうシン

ニア「こいつも…行くって言…シン！」

答えないシン。

メツ「（ニアに…お前らだけじゃ…よ」

ニア「なっーー！」

メツ「ハハハハハ！」

豪快な笑いを残して去って行くメツ。

ニア「チッーー！」

This gives us Metz and Shin in addition to Rex and Nia. There's also the leader of a group, two of his group and a single mention of a "Bya…ko". The middle of their name is never visible but I'm just going to assume it's "Byakko". I may be completely wrong about that, but oh well. If I were to guess, Nia is the girl with animal ears and Byakko is the white tiger seen in the trailer, mostly because 白虎 (Byakko) is the Japanese name for the White Tiger. They seem to be at the entrance of an ancient ship. Quite a lot of this page is never visible, which is why there are quite a few gaps in it. Again, if someone wants to translate this, go ahead."

 

Source 

 

 

 

So by the looks of it, the hero's name is Rex. I'm assuming the red haired girl is Homura, the blonde is Hikari, and the cat girl is Nia. The relationship between the Driver and Blade really interests me, too. Either way, it's nice to see some plot details finally surface thanks to the translators and I'm more excited to learn more!

Edited January 18, 2017 by Shulk

[Dio Brando 5,810]

Good luck getting a copy of the first! Just a tip if your Wii is a North American model: you can get the region-free version of it on Amazon for $45, and it's the exact same as any other English copy. That's probably the best way to get the game if you own a NA Wii. I'm pretty sure it's easier to get a copy in other regions. It's a fantastic game, I'd say it's definitely worth playing!

 

 

 

EDIT (1/17/2017):

 

Some people have gotten around to translating the excerpts of the script that pop up in the first trailer. Here's what's been found (note that this is an unofficial translation and just a summary). I'm putting it all in a spoiler tab since the quote feature isn't wanting to work:

 

Translation 1

 

"So, when Takahashi's name pops up there's some pages of stuff that float past, and you can kind of make out what's written on them.

In one, Vandam(yes, everyone's favorite), is discussing some relationship between "Blade" and "Driver" with Rex. He explains that the "Blade" is immortal and will recover from injuries quickly, unless some 'core' on their chest is destroyed, or if their "Driver" dies. Rex says something about how "Drivers" protect the "Blade", and thus, he will protect Homura.

 

In another, Homura, Hikari and Nia are all at some kind of bath, and Nia tells Hikari she's got a nice bod. I have no idea what kind of serious scenario that could ever be relevant in.

 

In the third(which I could barely read), some leader of something is leading other people towards some kind of ancient ship entrance. Nia's there, someone named Shin, and some other person named Mets(u). Might try and figure out more of this one later."

 

Source

 

 

 

Translation 2 with Analysis:

 

"I decided to transcribe all of what is legible at any point in order to allow a fuller understanding of what they're about (which was quite a bit more work than you'd expect). Where there's some text which isn't visible at any point but I can tell there is some there, I've replaced it with "…". As I've said in my previous thread about this topic, my Japanese isn't great, so if any wants to fully translate these, please do.

First is page 247/1,124:

…じられん。

…るのか？」

レックス「…事実」

そう言って胸元のコアを見せるレックス

ヴァンダム「ただのアクセサリーかと思ってたぜ」

レックス「んなわけあるかっての」

ヴァンダム「ブレイドはどんな傷を負ったとしても、すぐに回復する。コアを破壊されるか、ドライバーが死なない限り不死身だ。しかしお前らはーー」

レックス「まぁ仕方ないよ。こうなっちゃったんだから」

ヴァンダム「困ったもんだな。これじゃあどっちがぶっ倒れたもアウトじゃないか」

レックス「一人前のドライバーはブレイドを守るんだろ？ならオレはホムラを守ってみせる」

ヴァンダム「口で言う程簡単なこっちゃない

This is a conversation between Rex and Vandam (a reccuring name in the Xeno series. Blade's Colony 9 Defence Force Colonel, Vangarre, and X's Commander Vandham both have this name in Japanese). Rex shows Vandam a chest core, presumably the Zohar shape worn by two of the characters, and also says that he'll protect Homura, who I assume to be one of the girls with the Zohar shape. There's also a mention of a "Driver" protecting a "Blade". (Again, if anyone can fully translate this, please do. It cuts out at the end because of a page turn.)

Next is page 392

…くる人物が。

…

先に入らせてもらってるよーーって、ヒカリ！？」

入ってきたのはホムラではなくヒカリ

湯船の上に堂々と立っている

ニア「何で？」

ヒカリ「何でって、だめかしら？」

ニア「いや、だめじゃないけどーー」

しげしげとヒカリの身体を見るニア

ニア「ナ、ナイスバディだな」

ヒカリ、ツンとして

ヒカリ「ありがと」

ホムラ「温泉があるって言ったらヒカリちゃん、絶対に入りたいって言うから」

ヒカリ「で、入りに来たってわけ」

湯船へと浸かるヒカリ。

ニア「い、忙しいね、アンタら」

This seems to be a fairly inconsequential character interaction between Nia, Hikari and Homura (almost certainly all female) while they take a bath together. There doesn't seem to be much of importance here aside from Nia complementing Hikari's figure.

The final page show doesn't have its page number visible at any point, so it could take place at any time.

リーダー「各班、準備のできた者が…進入開始！」

リーダーと共に２名の潜…古代船の入口に向かう

メツ「さて、俺達も行くか」

移動しようとするメツ。

続くニアとビャ…コ。

だがシンはレックスを見つめ…る

シン「ーーお前も来…

レックス「え？」

スタスタと行って…しまうシン

ニア「こいつも…行くって言…シン！」

答えないシン。

メツ「（ニアに…お前らだけじゃ…よ」

ニア「なっーー！」

メツ「ハハハハハ！」

豪快な笑いを残して去って行くメツ。

ニア「チッーー！」

This gives us Metz and Shin in addition to Rex and Nia. There's also the leader of a group, two of his group and a single mention of a "Bya…ko". The middle of their name is never visible but I'm just going to assume it's "Byakko". I may be completely wrong about that, but oh well. If I were to guess, Nia is the girl with animal ears and Byakko is the white tiger seen in the trailer, mostly because 白虎 (Byakko) is the Japanese name for the White Tiger. They seem to be at the entrance of an ancient ship. Quite a lot of this page is never visible, which is why there are quite a few gaps in it. Again, if someone wants to translate this, go ahead."

 

Source 

 

 

 

So by the looks of it, the hero's name is Rex. I'm assuming the red haired girl is Homura, the blonde is Hikari, and the cat girl is Nia. The relationship between the Driver and Blade really interests me, too. Either way, it's nice to see some plot details finally surface thanks to the translators and I'm more excited to learn more!

The Driver and Blade dynamic reminds me a lot of Soul Eater where there were sentient weapons that are wielded by meisters 

[Clouded Sun 1,232]

One thing I have to say that both XC and FFXV nailed was the brotherhood between the characters. They all felt naturally in place, and not outlandish like a silent character. I hope in Xenoblade 2 with a proper MC, we get some good dialogue between the characters. I hope they also have banter outside of combat too.

Really hoping for the return of changing clothes. Hate the MC's outfit.

[Guest]

In the case of X, it made sense since the characters were all from America. For this one, yeah, I'd love to see NoE handle the localization.

 

Of course they already said the game's coming in 2017 while NoA hasn't made any mention of a release time... I really hope this won't be a repeat of the original game taking 2 years for us to get the same exact version Europe got.

 

I dunno, because the UK and the rest of Europe got Pokemon Sun and Moon a week later than the rest of the world, I think it's naturally fair for Xenoblade Chronicles 2 to be released in Europe for a week before the United States as a means of compensation.

[Shulk 8,623]

I dunno, because the UK and the rest of Europe got Pokemon Sun and Moon a week later than the rest of the world, I think it's naturally fair for Xenoblade Chronicles 2 to be released in Europe for a week before the United States as a means of compensation.

Pokemon games have come out a week later in Europe for a while now presumably because some European retailers sold X/Y a week early and everything leaked online as a result. North America had to wait 2 years for Xenoblade (Europe only waited one) and there have been other recent Nintendo games that we got long after Europe (Yoshi's Woolly World gave us a six month wait after Europe for no reason, and I'll leave out the long list of Virtual Console games we waited a year to see ported over). I don't see why we need to be punished with a late release of Xenoblade because Pokemon took a week later to come to Europe, they're not related and it doesn't fix anything. We'd be better off just tossing out the idea of delayed releases and getting worldwide launches for more games. That way, no one has to wait any longer than anyone else. Edited January 22, 2017 by Shulk