BlazingSoul 130 Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) 1. He is the original owner of Xehanort's keyblade. 2. The eye in the keyblade is actually his eye. 3. He gives Luxu the two tasks: a. use the keyblade so that the MoM can see the future through that eye and pass the keyblade down his apprentices and so on. b. hide the mystery box and never to open it. 4. This means that Luxu could be Xehanort's master OR Xehanort's master could have been an apprentice to Luxu. 5. This also means that Xehanort is really not the TRUE villain of the franchise, the MoM could be it. Luxu was just following the Master's order. 6. The box's content still remain a mystery, but when the MoM told Luxu what was inside, Luxu said "but why?" Could it mean that the MoM heart is inside the box and the current MoM is just a Nobody (empty shell). Why doesn't he want the box opened? 7. Does Xehanort know about the box? 8. The MoM sarcastic and kinda mischievous/malicious attitude & tone reminds me of Xigbar, but Sora at the same time (without the maliciousness). Since he should be missing an eye Xigbar is one of the first suspect that comes to mind, but he had two eyes when fighting Terra (was that eye fake/an illusion?) 9. The MoM never mentioned the X-Blade. Just who is this crazy dude?!? Edited January 14, 2017 by BlazingSoul 4 moogleman, RikuFangirl2008, Exiblade7 and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KairiKeybasH 851 Posted January 13, 2017 1. He is the original owner of Xehanort's keyblade. 2. The eye in the keyblade is actually his eye. 3. He gives Luxu the two tasks: a. use the keyblade so that he can see the future through that eye and pass the keyblade down his apprentices and so on. b. hide the mystery box and never to open it. 4. This means that Luxu could be Xehanort's master OR Xehanort's master could be an apprentice to Luxu. 5. This also means that Xehanort is really not the TRUE villain of the franchise, the MoM could be it. Luxu was just following the Master's order. 6. The box's content still remain a mystery, but when the MoM told Luxu what was inside, Luxu said "but why?" Could it mean that the MoM heart is inside the box and the current MoM is just a Nobody (empty shell). Why doesn't he want the box opened? 7. Does Xehanort know about the box? 8. The MoM sarcastic and kinda mischievous/malicious attitude & tone reminds me of Xigbar, but Sora at the same time (without the maliciousness). Since he should be missing an eye Xigbar is one of the first suspect that comes to mind, but he had two eyes when fighting Terra (was that eye fake/an illusion?) Just who is this crazy dude?!? I was thinking the same thing. He could be The True Villain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SRKTVAMDGRLXN 232 Posted January 13, 2017 1. He is the original owner of Xehanort's keyblade. 2. The eye in the keyblade is actually his eye. 3. He gives Luxu the two tasks: a. use the keyblade so that he can see the future through that eye and pass the keyblade down his apprentices and so on. b. hide the mystery box and never to open it. 4. This means that Luxu could be Xehanort's master OR Xehanort's master could be an apprentice to Luxu. 5. This also means that Xehanort is really not the TRUE villain of the franchise, the MoM could be it. Luxu was just following the Master's order. 6. The box's content still remain a mystery, but when the MoM told Luxu what was inside, Luxu said "but why?" Could it mean that the MoM heart is inside the box and the current MoM is just a Nobody (empty shell). Why doesn't he want the box opened? 7. Does Xehanort know about the box? 8. The MoM sarcastic and kinda mischievous/malicious attitude & tone reminds me of Xigbar, but Sora at the same time (without the maliciousness). Since he should be missing an eye Xigbar is one of the first suspect that comes to mind, but he had two eyes when fighting Terra (was that eye fake/an illusion?) Just who is this crazy dude?!? My thoughts exactly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exiblade7 1,917 Posted January 13, 2017 I was thinking the same thing. He could be The True Villain. if the master of masters is the true villain of the kingdom hearts series, then it would be safe to assume he's going to be the final boss of kingdom hearts 3 after defeating Xehanort? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Sideris 1,551 Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) I just saw the whole thing in English and I am quite surprised and confused . The Book of Prophecies was just a cover (no pun intended) so that the MoM's real plan can come to fruition . He never knew what was gonna happen (Xehanort-saga) but he manipulated the events of the near future (Keyblade War) like he was able to time-travel . The whole "MoM has an eye that can see into the future" is quite literal and fake at the same time . So my guess is that he wanted to see what was gonna happen when 7 GoL and 13 SoD collided and that's why his eye needed to be passed through generations and generations . Also , I'm pretty sure Luxu is Xehanort's Master . I mean Xehanort is a pretty old dude so it's not impossible for Luxu to have been alive to train Xehanort and Eraqus . If that's the case , why did he give the Keyblade to Xehanort and not Eraqus ? I guess it's because Eraqus was so fond of light . Luxu saw potential in Xehanort to continue the MoM's plans . Also , about the box ,it might sound dumb but I think it contains absolutely nothing . But if 7 GoL and 13 SoD were to collide , it would open (without Xehanort,Eraqus or anyone knowing of its existence) and it would summon the X-Blade in a different way with how Xehanort summoned it in BBS . MoM would be there to see the event happening and he would also see Kingdom Hearts and its true whatever power .I might very well be wrong . Your theory about MoM's heart being in it sounds interesting ,too. I do have two questions though : 1)If my theory about MoM wanting to summon and "acquiring" Kingdom Hearts is right , then couldn't he have just manipulated the events to come just like he did with the BoP without disappearing at all so that he could just summon and see Kingdom Hearts on his own? 2)And even if he couldn't , why would he disappear and only leave his eye behind to see through the future ? What's the point ? Could he have been alive during the whole "Xehanort Saga" and through KH III ? It really doesn't make any sense . If he so wanted to see what power Kingdom Hearts holds and he could have been alive to accomplish it before the Keyblade War , why would he disappear and let the future do his work for him ? If Xehanort's plan is to be successful , then MoM wouldn't be the one to get the power that comes with Kingdom Hearts , Xehanort would be . He would just be there to see it ,that's all . There would be no gain for him. But , then again , my theory might be completely stupid and maybe the box does contain his heart and when the GoL and the SoD collide , he will be summoned to forge the X-Blade and use it to get to Kingdom Hearts . Edited January 13, 2017 by Nick Sideris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alja 61 Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) My mind is utterly firetrucked (lol nice censoring ), I'm not even joking. I don't think I still processed everything.The Master of Masters is truly crazy. I used to entertain the idea that it is indeed Braig, but idk man... His happy go lucky attitude is pretty much like Braig, but Braig didn't exhibit this kind of crazy behavior, nobody did and that's probably why this guy will turn out to be the most terrifying antagonist of the series to date if he truly appears in KH3 4. This means that Luxu could be Xehanort's master OR Xehanort's master could be an apprentice to Luxu. Or some distant apprentice. Just adding that here since the war was supposed to have happened many years ago, so it would make sense for some Generations to have passed. 5. This also means that Xehanort is really not the TRUE villain of the franchise, the MoM could be it. Luxu was just following the Master's order. I'm not sure whether to like that or not. I like it in the way that Xehanort would finally be rendered just a tool himself, something he does to others all the time, and yet... To have the Xehanort saga end on “Hey look, actually, the big bad is not Xehanort at all!” might be a little unsatisfying. The MoM could turn out to be the main antagonist of the next saga, but then again, I don't know if that would be any more satisfying either, to tease a new saga in the old one when everyone's just looking to finally finish this saga off. (I mean not that they wouldn't necessarily play a new saga as well, but give us the satisfaction that we achieved something and that the worlds are finally safe for once!) 7. Does Xehanort know about the box? If he doesn't, he will. I mean it has to appear and since he's a pupil of the lineage of Luxu, he either specifically knows about it or has hints about it. 8. The MoM sarcastic and kinda mischievous/malicious attitude & tone reminds me of Xigbar, but Sora at the same time (without the maliciousness). Since he should be missing an eye Xigbar is one of the first suspect that comes to mind, but he had two eyes when fighting Terra (was that eye fake/an illusion?) Maybe this eye will enable the MoM (who should've passed by now) to appear by having his eye implanted into Braig? Since he's the one person with only one eye right now. I don't think his old eye was fake or an illusion; I'd like to believe that would've chosen not to show Terra wounding his eye in that case. So like, his mind might take possession over Braig through his eye like Xehanort possessed Terra.On the other hand, there's still gotta be a reason why Braig puts up with Xehanort. Maybe that's why he so readily gives into whatever Xehanort does, because he knows, in the end, the MoM's eye will make him “one” again and that he then can follow his original plans. Maybe Braig will turn out to be some kind of reincarnation of the MoM..? Edited January 13, 2017 by Alja 1 BlazingSoul reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gosoxtim 52 Posted January 13, 2017 It been confirmed the master of masters won't be in kh3 but the box will be in kh3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exiblade7 1,917 Posted January 13, 2017 It been confirmed the master of masters won't be in kh3 but the box will be in kh3 can you give me the source for that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gosoxtim 52 Posted January 13, 2017 can you give me the source for that? it in this intivew http://www.khinsider.com/news/Famitsu-showcases-Kingdom-Hearts-HD-2-8-Nomura-interview-released-8108 1 NoWay reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ciel 20 Posted January 13, 2017 6. The box's content still remain a mystery, but when the MoM told Luxu what was inside, Luxu said "but why?" Could it mean that the MoM heart is inside the box and the current MoM is just a Nobody (empty shell). Why doesn't he want the box opened? Maybe it contains the "key to returns hearts" that Sora must find in KH3? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kybldmstr94 55 Posted January 13, 2017 if the master of masters is the true villain of the kingdom hearts series, then it would be safe to assume he's going to be the final boss of kingdom hearts 3 after defeating Xehanort? Not likely. Nomura said in interview today that MoM would not appear in KH3. Also we know that the final battle of KH3 will be Xehanort. However I think Nomura is setting us up for whats to come after KH3. We already know that the story will go on as Sora being the protagonist. So the next chapter after the Xehanort saga could continue with the MoM as the villain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nukara Rikova 50 Posted January 13, 2017 Perhaps the MоМ as a secret boss in KH3? In any case it should appear in future games. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elfdemon_ 695 Posted January 14, 2017 (edited) 3. He gives Luxu the two tasks: a. use the keyblade so that he can see the future through that eye and pass the keyblade down his apprentices and so on. No, Luxu cannot see the future through the eye, that's not what the Master of Masters said. He told Luxu to pass along the Keyblade to his apprentice and then him to his apprentice, so that the Master of Masters can see the future, not Luxu. Only the Master of Masters can look through that eye because it's literally his eyeball. 4. This means that Luxu could be Xehanort's master OR Xehanort's master could be an apprentice to Luxu. Xehanort and Eraqus' master was Luxu's apprentice. The Master of Masters specifically says that Luxu needs to pass down No Name to his apprentice and then him to his apprentice, which means that there's a master we have yet to learn about. Edited January 14, 2017 by Elfdemon_ 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PartyGod 0 Posted March 4, 2020 On 1/12/2017 at 9:43 PM, Zeldablade7#9650 said: if the master of masters is the true villain of the kingdom hearts series, then it would be safe to assume he's going to be the final boss of kingdom hearts 3 after defeating Xehanort? Thats like saying that the MoM should've been a secret ending boss along with yozora. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted April 11, 2020 The time will come, in a few years at most, when we shall finally truly know who the MoM is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites