Kingdom Hearts 3 give us clues?

[Kevin James Jimenez 16]

Do you think we are going to get any clues in kingdom hearts 3 about what the next Sega is going to be like?

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

I actually kind of hope not. I'd like the next saga to be completly separate, nothign connecting them except Sora being the mainc character. Having a hint at the next saga at the end of KH3 would still make it feel connected, like it's still part of the same storyline, you know?

Edited November 7, 2016 by Isamu Kuno

[Kevin James Jimenez 16]

I actually kind of hope not. I'd like the next saga to be completly separate, nothign connecting them except Sora being the mainc character. Having a hint at the next saga at the end of KH3 would still make it feel connected, like it's still part of the same storyline, you know?

yes but the question is who is master xehanort's master where is he or she? I would like master xehanort's master come in and talk shit about xehanort and how weak he is.

[Hero of Light XIV 2,381]

Eh, I wouldn't want anything beyond a secret ending this time around. That's enough for me. I'd like this to be mostly focused on finishing up what we started, and then end with a very tiny glimmer of what we might have to look forward to. Of course, one should be careful with that, Dirge of Cerberus did something similar and we never saw what became of that. So whatever is done, just make sure this is handled in a way where in the hopefully unlikely scenario where this is the last game in the franchise, it doesn't feel like we're getting our hopes up for any plot development that might never come. In any case, we'll have to see. But I doubt the story itself will be taking any time to hint at a future saga.

[Kevin James Jimenez 16]

Eh, I wouldn't want anything beyond a secret ending this time around. That's enough for me. I'd like this to be mostly focused on finishing up what we started, and then end with a very tiny glimmer of what we might have to look forward to. Of course, one should be careful with that, Dirge of Cerberus did something similar and we never saw what became of that. So whatever is done, just make sure this is handled in a way where in the hopefully unlikely scenario where this is the last game in the franchise, it doesn't feel like we're getting our hopes up for any plot development that might never come. In any case, we'll have to see. But I doubt the story itself will be taking any time to hint at a future saga.

maybe this is out there but i hope the next sage is about the master of masters disappearance

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

yes but the question is who is master xehanort's master where is he or she? I would like master xehanort's master come in and talk shit about xehanort and how weak he is.

I suspect Yen Sid. He knew Xehanort as a student, knew how rebellious he was, and him being retired while Eraqus and Xehanort where still active Masters says to me he's from a previous generation before them.

 

I also wouldn't mind a time skip, about 3 years to really make it feel separate. I can almost see the online description now.

 

It's been 3 years since Sora and his friends defeated Xehanort and for the first time in over a decade the worlds have truly been at peace. Heartless, Nobodies and various other creatures of Darkness have all but vanished from the Realm of Light. But suddenly the great scorcerer Yen Sid, and King Mickey Mouse have sesned a shift in the balance of light and darkness. Strange new creatures have been appearing all over the worlds, and Sora willl have to once again leave his peaceful, idyllic life on the Destiny Island to face this new, unknown threat. 

~ A New Story Begins

 

Or, something like that.

 

maybe this is out there but i hope the next sage is about the master of masters disappearance

 You don't think BC will cover that?

 

And even if it isn't didn't Nomura say all remainig mysteries in the series thus far would be resolved in KH3?

Edited November 7, 2016 by Isamu Kuno

[Joker 1,560]

The current story arc will end with KH3 but the second arc will begin afterwards. Till one day the story finaly comes to a close on the final major arc with the last villain down and Kingdom Hearts is saved once and for all. But in this final arc all the villains come back, including Xehanort

[Hero of Light XIV 2,381]

maybe this is out there but i hope the next sage is about the master of masters disappearance

 

 

I suspect Yen Sid. He knew Xehanort as a student, knew how rebellious he was, and him being retired while Eraqus and Xehanort where still active Masters says to me he's from a previous generation before them.

 

I also wouldn't mind a time skip, about 3 years to really make it feel separate. I can almost see the online description now.

 

It's been 3 years since Sora and his friends defeated Xehanort and for the first time in over a decade the worlds have truly been at peace. Heartless, Nobodies and various other creatures of Darkness have all but vanished from the Realm of Light. But suddenly the great scorcerer Yen Sid, and King Mickey Mouse have sesned a shift in the balance of light and darkness. Strange new creatures have been appearing all over the worlds, and Sora willl have to once again leave his peaceful, idyllic life on the Destiny Island to face this new, unknown threat. 

~ A New Story Begins

 

Or, something like that.

Making Yen Sid the Master of Masters feels like that would be a bit too on the nose for me. Isn't it enough that he's Mickey's master? And I never got the master/pupil vibe between him and Eraqus and Xehanort, the way that Eraqus referred to him, it feels more like they were friends, like fellow pupils at some point. Maybe they all shared the same master or Yen Sid had his own master, either way I don't feel that who they were taught under is that significant right now. Well, except for maybe Xehanort and Eraqus' master, but I have a feeling we'll get more insight into that over time.

 

And I mean, we've already heard the Master of Master's voice and seen some of his mannerisms, not to mention his bodytype. Human or not, Yen Sid is still a Disney character, his model would be a special one, even if he were younger. And I honestly don't see him in a role that grand that would affect the entire rotation of the series, beyond being the intelligent mentor that gathers the heroes together. It's like suggesting that maybe Gandolf was the one who suggested to Sauron to make the Ring in the first place, it's kind of a bit too much for an audience to wrap their head around, not to mention greatly conflicts with the character's role in the story. In fact, that LOTR reference actually convinces me more that his relationship with Xehanort was much more like what Gandolf and Saruman's was before the latter went to the dark side, he was a peer and friend to Xehanort but then at some point lost touch with him after Xehanort left to explore the worlds, and now he wonders if he could have done anything different in the past to prevent this.

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

Making Yen Sid the Master of Masters feels like that would be a bit too on the nose for me. Isn't it enough that he's Mickey's master? And I never got the master/pupil vibe between him and Eraqus and Xehanort, the way that Eraqus referred to him, it feels more like they were friends, like fellow pupils at some point. Maybe they all shared the same master or Yen Sid had his own master, either way I don't feel that who they were taught under is that significant right now. Well, except for maybe Xehanort and Eraqus' master, but I have a feeling we'll get more insight into that over time.

 

And I mean, we've already heard the Master of Master's voice and seen some of his mannerisms, not to mention his bodytype. Human or not, Yen Sid is still a Disney character, his model would be a special one, even if he were younger. And I honestly don't see him in a role that grand that would affect the entire rotation of the series, beyond being the intelligent mentor that gathers the heroes together. It's like suggesting that maybe Gandolf was the one who suggested to Sauron to make the Ring in the first place, it's kind of a bit too much for an audience to wrap their head around, not to mention greatly conflicts with the character's role in the story. In fact, that LOTR reference actually convinces me more that his relationship with Xehanort was much more like what Gandolf and Saruman's was before the latter went to the dark side, he was a peer and friend to Xehanort but then at some point lost touch with him after Xehanort left to explore the worlds, and now he wonders if he could have done anything different in the past to prevent this.

You jumped the gun. I was in the process of editing in a quote when you responded. I'm not saying he was the Master of Masters, just Eraqus and Xehanort's Master, there's no reason to beleive that the Master of Masters is the one who trained them. Like Young Xehanort said, Keyblades are passed down through generations, who knows how many people could have had that one between Luxu and Xehanort. Even with a direct route, the Master of Masters could have passed it to Luxu, Luxu to Yen Sid, Yen Sid to Xehanort. Besides, Yen Sid was already retired before he started training Mickey, he must have had other students before him, he didn't become a Master and the immediately retire, that would be kind of ridiculous. And we only know of two Keyblade Masters that where around while he was active.

 

And it's funny you bring up Gandalf/Sauron because I see it as more of a Dumbledore/Voldemot kind of deal. He had no idea all the harm Xehanort would do so now he's tryign to fix his mistake, like Dumbledore did with Harry. But did he tell Harry right away, "Hh by the why the guy who tried to kill you was my student. I scouted him myself"? No, he waited until it was neccessary and Harry could handle it. And we all know Yen Sid never reveals anything until he has to. He's only just now telling Riku and Kairi about Terra, Aqua and Ven, because only now is it neccessary for them to know.

Also, master and friend do not have to be mutually exclusive relationships. After Eraqus successeded Yen Sid as the keeper of the Land of departure they could have become peers and freinds becasue there was nocause for the formality of a student/teacher relationship anymore. Going back to Harry Potter, look at Hagrid and Dumbledore. Dumbledore was Hagrid's teacher, but they also became friends.

Edited November 7, 2016 by Isamu Kuno

[Kevin James Jimenez 16]

The current story arc will end with KH3 but the second arc will begin afterwards. Till one day the story finaly comes to a close on the final major arc with the last villain down and Kingdom Hearts is saved once and for all. But in this final arc all the villains come back, including Xehanort

but do you think there could be signs or an easter eggs that will show us clues about the next arc?

[Joker 1,560]

A secret ending provably with vague hints or somthing 

[Kevin James Jimenez 16]

A secret ending provably with vague hints or somthing 

to me it would be cool if you revisit one of the worlds again if you go to this one area you will see a shadowy figure watching over you from a distance for about 2 or 3 seconds but runs away.

[Hero of Light XIV 2,381]

You jumped the gun. I was in the process of editing in a quote when you responded. I'm not saying he was the Master of Masters, just Eraqus and Xehanort's Master, there's no reason to beleive that the Master of Masters is the one who trained them. Like Young Xehanort said, Keyblades are passed down through generations, who knows how many people could have had that one between Luxu and Xehanort. Even with a direct route, the Master of Masters could have passed it to Luxu, Luxu to Yen Sid, Yen Sid to Xehanort. Besides, Yen Sid was already retired before he started training Mickey, he must have had other students before him, he didn't become a Master and the immediately retire, that would be kind of ridiculous. And we only know of two Keyblade Masters that where around while he was active.

 

And it's funny you bring up Gandalf/Sauron because I see it as more of a Dumbledore/Voldemot kind of deal. He had no idea all the harm Xehanort would do so now he's tryign to fix his mistake, like Dumbledore did with Harry. But did he tell Harry right away, "Hh by the why the guy who tried to kill you was my student. I scouted him myself"? No, he waited until it was neccessary and Harry could handle it. And we all know Yen Sid never reveals anything until he has to. He's only just now telling Riku and Kairi about Terra, Aqua and Ven, because only now is it neccessary for them to know.

Also, master and friend do not have to be mutually exclusive relationships. After Eraqus successeded Yen Sid as the keeper of the Land of departure they could have become peers and freinds becasue there was nocause for the formality of a student/teacher relationship anymore. Going back to Harry Potter, look at Hagrid and Dumbledore. Dumbledore was Hagrid's teacher, but they also became friends.

Well in any case, I'm not so sure I'm sold on the idea. Theoretically it could work, but it almost feels more natural to me for him to have been a fellow pupil of the two than their actual master, with their master having a different character we've never met before. There's plenty of room for both possibilities for now, I just feel that it would be a bit too predictable if Yen Sid turns out to be their master. Plus, a part of me just really wants to see a younger more apprentice aged Yen Sid, and odds are you wouldn't get that from a "back when I was their master" flashback.

[Kevin James Jimenez 16]

Well in any case, I'm not so sure I'm sold on the idea. Theoretically it could work, but it almost feels more natural to me for him to have been a fellow pupil of the two than their actual master, with their master having a different character we've never met before. There's plenty of room for both possibilities for now, I just feel that it would be a bit too predictable if Yen Sid turns out to be their master. Plus, a part of me just really wants to see a younger more apprentice aged Yen Sid, and odds are you wouldn't get that from a "back when I was their master" flashback.

but isn't they all are around the same age?

[SomeKHFan 63]

Maybe a secret Boss fight would be a clue. They have been in previous games (mostly for the FM versions).

[Hero of Light XIV 2,381]

but isn't they all are around the same age?

That's what I always figured. That's why I'm not too keen on the idea that Yen Sid might be their master.

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

Well in any case, I'm not so sure I'm sold on the idea. Theoretically it could work, but it almost feels more natural to me for him to have been a fellow pupil of the two than their actual master, with their master having a different character we've never met before. There's plenty of room for both possibilities for now, I just feel that it would be a bit too predictable if Yen Sid turns out to be their master. Plus, a part of me just really wants to see a younger more apprentice aged Yen Sid, and odds are you wouldn't get that from a "back when I was their master" flashback.

I wouldn't bank on ever seen a young Yen Sid. Square doesn't like to mess around with the Disney characters original designs too much. They usually just limit it to giving them more stylize clothing. Look at Snow White. She was captured just before KH (or during if you complete Deep Jungle before Wonderland) but she still looks the same as in BbS, so even if Yen Sid was an apprentice alongside Eraqus and Xehanort, he'd look the same as he does now.

but isn't they all are around the same age?

Well, It's nnot like we can really judge by looks. Apparently Xehanort and Eraqus are around the same age, but Xehanort looks 30 years older. Plus, Yen Sid has magic, he could be much older than he appears,

Edited November 8, 2016 by Isamu Kuno

[Kevin James Jimenez 16]

Maybe a secret Boss fight would be a clue. They have been in previous games (mostly for the FM versions).

i wonder what kind of secret boss we will get in KH3

[The Transcendent Key 12,109]

Well, that's a tough nut to crack, human!  There's a various amount of possibilities regarding the potent chance of getting clues to the next saga! But I think that the most notable clue we'll get will be in the form of fighting a secret boss! Or maybe some other kind of hidden clue that we might not notice in an instant!

[Headphone Jack 1,147]

i still can't get over how they yanked the whole "this is just one saga" out of their asses so late into the series. i know it's just an excuse to continue the series but wow that's a hard pill to swallow. 

 

i'd rather KH3 have an ending without any kind of suggestion as to what the future games may be about. let it end and give the series a rest for a couple of years. SE need some time to actually plan out the story and know what direction they want to take the series.

[Connected 978]

I hope not. I want the new Saga nothing to be related to the Xehanort Saga.  I do hope we get to see a Secret Movie of the New Saga. 

[Kevin James Jimenez 16]

will this become something like DB series for games with sagas. will there be kHZ or KH GT or KH super lol  :lol:

i still can't get over how they yanked the whole "this is just one saga" out of their asses so late into the series. i know it's just an excuse to continue the series but wow that's a hard pill to swallow. 

 

i'd rather KH3 have an ending without any kind of suggestion as to what the future games may be about. let it end and give the series a rest for a couple of years. SE need some time to actually plan out the story and know what direction they want to take the series.

but i do hope that they will still recall things that happen in the Xehanort saga and not pretend that it never happened.

I hope not. I want the new Saga nothing to be related to the Xehanort Saga.  I do hope we get to see a Secret Movie of the New Saga. 

[IAMME 158]

I watched this video about how after KH3 it will be the end of just the Xehenort dilemma.