Ventuslover123 24 Posted October 16, 2016 So In Aqua's story, we see Vanitas taking over Ventus' body, which looks like they have finally Merged, so if he did return to Ven, wouldn't he be a pure light anymore? or would they need to forge the X-Blade to be "whole"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doco56 52 Posted October 16, 2016 No, he wouldn't. Apparently, they just became a whole person now so Ventus has both light and dark in his heart. I am sure that the light will weigh out the dark, because I believe Vanitas was only so dark because his heart was concentrated darkness....if that makes sense. Also, Ventus' heart has been sleeping in Sora for a long time, so I don't think we need to worry about him being evil when he wakes up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Light XIV 2,381 Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) No, Ventus is indeed no longer made of just Light anymore. When Ventus and Vanitas fused they became a whole person. Their being one person of pure Light and one person of pure Darkness becoming one allowed the X-Blade to be forged. However since they were still in conflict with one another in their shared mind-space, their union was not finished, they were still two opposing halves sharing the same body. It wasn't until Ven beat Vanitas into submission that he truly became a full being. Now Ven's heart is no longer composed of just Light and nothing else, now that Vanitas has returned to his heart, he has regained his Darkness, his heart now being completely whole like it was before Xehanort split it in two. Ven is pretty much a whole being now, only with his heart is sleeping within Sora while his body is left sleeping in Castle Oblivion. Remember, Ven only had a heart of pure Light because he had his Darkness ripped out of him forcibly, he wasn't so much like a Princess of Heart who was born with no Darkness, but rather a being who had lost all traces of Darkness that was originally within him. Granted Ven probably didn't have a huge amount of Darkness within him, so Vanitas probably wasn't too strong to begin with, but he likely got stronger over time while Ventus got weaker, until the day he made contact with Sora's heart. And when they both fused together when they forged the X-Blade, that only seemed to fuse them in body but not entirely in mind and spirit. Vanitas was still trying to assert dominance over their shared heart while Ventus fought fiercely to prevent him from fully taking over, so they were one body with a divided mind, similar to how Terranort was having difficulties with his conflicting personalities when Aqua fought him. And yet they still show differences in how difficult it is. On the outside Vanitas seems to be maintaining control even while simultaneously fighting Aqua, Mickey, and Ventus from within, while at first while fighting Terra's Lingering Will Xehanort seems to be in complete control over Terra's body only to show signs of difficulty during his fight with Aqua. I theorize that Vanitas probably had an easier time controlling his and Ven's shared body while simultaneously fighting him within their shared mind because originally they were the same body, Vanitas was meant to be there so it may have been a bit easier to assert his personality as the new dominant one. Plus both his and Ven's physical forms combined into each other, their bodies became one. It only still looked like Ven's because that's what they originally looked like to begin with, the only changes being Vanitas' eyes and bodysuit. However with Terranort, it was handled differently. Terra and Xehanort were originally two separate beings, they never came from a single entity. So Xehanort essentially shed his original body and had his heart invade Terra's body forcefully. Now he probably had an easier time with this at first because Terra's heart and body were already so corrupted by Darkness that it made directly controlling Terra's body a bit easier. Plus Terra's heart and will were probably in shock from the experience so the only way he could fight him was through the small part of his mind that remained in his armor. Later on, after Terranort was knocked out, it probably allowed Terra's heart to be on level ground with Xehanort's when their shared body came to, allowing him to more properly struggle with Xehanort from within. This is likely what resulted in Terranort's partial amnesia before fighting Aqua, without Terra or Xehanort's wills to influence him, he was likely a blank sleight with no memories or past experiences to build a personality on. It wasn't till Aqua confronted him on who he was that he probably came across some memory or until Xehanort's heart gained an upper hand over Terra's heart for a brief moment that he was able to draw on Xehanort's personality, his being the dominant one temporarily. By trying to connect with Terra, Aqua was able to briefly team up with him in his mind-space to help fight off Xehanort a few times during the battle, and by the end it would seem like it was enough to weaken Xehanort enough to the point that Terra was able to temporarily gain control of his body, probably long enough for Aqua to try and do something or for him to forcibly push Xehanort out. But Xehanort still seemed to have enough control to cause Terranort to strike themselves with his Keyblade, causing some unknown effect on them collectively. While it sounds like he was trying to forcibly remove Terra's heart from their shared body, it seems like that didn't end up happening as Terra and Xehanort can still be seen bantering to one another from within Terranort's mind. They are no longer fighting each other for control and Terranort, for the most part, seems to be largely independent of either of their influences. The only possible sign that Xehanort may have had a bit more influence over him was the fact that Terranort gave his name out as Xehanort, but beyond that it would seem that his true memories of either of his original selves were locked away, leaving him as a blank sleight yet again with only a vague notion of who he is. He likely developed his own personality from there, only lightly subconsciously drawing on certain personality traits of his two dormant halves, until the day that Ansem tried experimenting on him to awaken his true memories. While any details how how much he recalled from that point on are unclear, it's possible that he remembered enough of Xehanort's memories to lead himself down the path to where he would lead the other apprentices into their own experiments. Sorry for the tangent there, but basically, yeah Ven is no longer a being of pure Light anymore, he has been completely whole from the moment Vanitas was defeated within his heart. Edited October 16, 2016 by Hero of Light XIV 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomHearts3 2,591 Posted October 16, 2016 So In Aqua's story, we see Vanitas taking over Ventus' body, which looks like they have finally Merged, so if he did return to Ven, wouldn't he be a pure light anymore? or would they need to forge the X-Blade to be "whole"? Yeah he is pure light. His pure darkness was destroyed by him. He never returned to Ven. The piece of Ven's heart did, but not Vanitas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
palizinhas 102 Posted October 16, 2016 If Ven wasn't pure light, his heart would probably have been swallowed by darkness when Sora's was, but it stayed inside Sora's body. That means it's very unlikely he's not pure light. Plus it went inside of Sora, and helped Sora in DDD, looking exactly like the Princesses' hearts, while normal hearts that aren't pure light look different when they are purified by the Keyblade (and as such are probably different all the time), so it's probably stil pure light. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Headphone Jack 1,147 Posted October 16, 2016 yea i'm pretty sure that now he's back to being a normal person with a heart made up of light and darkness. but how much do you want to bet that he'll still act like he did in BBS when he had a heart of just pure light? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted October 17, 2016 Well, Ventus has Vanitas inside him, so technically, his heart has light and darkness! So he's not a "Pure" light anymore! The only pure lights remaining are the Princesses Of Heart, but I figure that all other hearts aren't the same, ya know? Hence, why I believe that Ventus isn't a pure light, but rather, as Hero Of Light said, he is whole, ya know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xiro 3,468 Posted October 17, 2016 I always thought that Ven's part o' the heart stayed as a full light heart and Vani's part just died (or is floating around somewhere). What exactly supports the idea that their hearts remained merged after their internal fight? In any case Ven will always be a princess to me. Don't take that the wrong way. 1 Felixx reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites