Sendou Aichi 2,356 Posted September 15, 2016 So I actually wanted to do this for quite a while, and seeing how Robbie the Wise's Pokemon tournament is got hope this could work as well. I also figured it would be better to address the meta ban in this thread, as it may effect whether or not some people will sign-ups(At this moment, I am not sure if I want a complete ban or just limit it). We will be using YGOPro. Ruling: Both OCG and TCG cards are allowed TCG banlist If people are fine with meta decks, they will just be limited instead. The following meta decks will banned: Tier 1-Burning Abyss, Neo Blue Eyes(Blue Eyes related cards pre-movie are fine) Tier 2- Metalfoe, Monarch, Kozmo, OCG-DDD(the deck is fine if you don't use the cards that are only out on the OCG ), ABC. The following decks are banned regardless of the vote because they are rather trollish: Exodia, burn/stall(Final countdown included) and Chain Burn. Entry format: YGOPro Username: Timezone: Here is mine: YGOPro Name: Cookiesaki Timezone: UTC +3 Participants: 1.Shun Cookiesaki(Cookiesaki, UTC+3) 2.SuperSmashDrake(Same username, UTC-4) 3.Xam(MiAmigoEraUnTukan, UTC+1)4.Yuya Sakaki(The V-Blade, UTC+10) 5.Xiro(Same, UTC-6) 6.MythrilMagician(Same, UTC+10) 7. 2 quid is good(Same, UTC+1) 8. Ajexmi(Same, UTC+0) 9. CriticalAssension(NeoBahamutR9, UTC+8) 1 Yuya Sakaki reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperSmashDrake 48 Posted September 15, 2016 YGOPro Username: SuperSmashDrake Timezone: UTC -4 (EDT) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weedanort 8,786 Posted September 15, 2016 Damn, I play Exodia ;~; 1 Xiro reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) 3,859 Posted September 15, 2016 YGOPro Username: MiAmigoEraUnTukan Timezone: UTC +1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuya Sakaki 5,212 Posted September 16, 2016 Username: The V-Blade Timezone: UTC +10 (AEST) Peace! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MythrilMagician 6,963 Posted September 16, 2016 Where's the most reliable place to download the app, considering the official website doesn't host the links anymore? Damn, I play Exodia ;~; AHHHH, EXODIA! IT'S NOT POSSIBLE! NO ONE'S EVER BEEN ABLE TO SUMMON HIM! 3 Yuya Sakaki, Sendou Aichi and Xiro reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xiro 3,468 Posted September 16, 2016 Username: Xiro (probably) Timezone: UTC-6 Damn, I play Exodia ;~; Are Explodia decks okay tho 1 Yuya Sakaki reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sendou Aichi 2,356 Posted September 16, 2016 So I almost forgot to say it, but the vote is public so only people who sign up can affect it. Where's the most reliable place to download the app, considering the official website doesn't host the links anymore? AHHHH, EXODIA! IT'S NOT POSSIBLE! NO ONE'S EVER BEEN ABLE TO SUMMON HIM! https://mega.nz/#!Z0hw2ZiQ!5s39bnXUrnkwRRFt66p8DASZKi9r0mLIIHPeMAiv-vg Damn, I play Exodia ;~; I am just not a fan of FTKs because they are rather trollish, since only habd traps work against them if the user is lucky. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystics Apprentice 2,397 Posted September 18, 2016 I've never played on YGOPro before, but I would definitely be interested in joining the tournament, if YGO Pro is something I could sign up for easily. I should also note that I am mostly familiar with the original series duel monsters, so I am not wholly familiar with meta decks. I'd probably opt to ban or at least limit them, so that it is more fair for all players. 2 Yuya Sakaki and Sendou Aichi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sendou Aichi 2,356 Posted September 19, 2016 Updated OP including number of participants and details. As for the meta ban, I think I'll just limit T3 to use in only one duel, T1 and T2 will be completely banned. I've never played on YGOPro before, but I would definitely be interested in joining the tournament, if YGO Pro is something I could sign up for easily. I should also note that I am mostly familiar with the original series duel monsters, so I am not wholly familiar with meta decks. I'd probably opt to ban or at least limit them, so that it is more fair for all players. The only problem in the sign-up thing is that download was terminated, so you have to download using the link above. I am not even sure if you have to create a user at the site. The main problem in the second sentence is that the game changed a lot since then, so even if a deck that is bad by today's standards, but still use modern cards including the new summoning methods is up against a good deck when the original series aired, the modern deck will have a much better chance of winning, as long as they both follow the ban list that is(The original YGO had some extremely broken cards). I will be happy to teach you about the changes, if you want . Username: Xiro (probably) Timezone: UTC-6 Are Explodia decks okay tho The username is one you type in the nickname category. 2 Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) and Yuya Sakaki reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuya Sakaki 5,212 Posted September 19, 2016 I've never played on YGOPro before, but I would definitely be interested in joining the tournament, if YGO Pro is something I could sign up for easily. I should also note that I am mostly familiar with the original series duel monsters, so I am not wholly familiar with meta decks. I'd probably opt to ban or at least limit them, so that it is more fair for all players. Updated OP including number of participants and details. As for the meta ban, I think I'll just limit T3 to use in only one duel, T1 and T2 will be completely banned. The only problem in the sign-up thing is that download was terminated, so you have to download using the link above. I am not even sure if you have to create a user at the site. The main problem in the second sentence is that the game changed a lot since then, so even if a deck that is bad by today's standards, but still use modern cards including the new summoning methods is up against a good deck when the original series aired, the modern deck will have a much better chance of winning, as long as they both follow the ban list that is(The original YGO had some extremely broken cards). I will be happy to teach you about the changes, if you want . Yeah as Shun said, the game has changed drastically since the old days. But some famous cards like Dark Magician and Red-Eyes Black Dragon have gotten recent legacy support to make them at least playable in today's meta. But it seems they gave Blue-Eyes all the best support for obvious reasons But yeah, I'd also be happy to briefly explain what's going on in the current meta. (: Peace! 2 Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) and Sendou Aichi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xiro 3,468 Posted September 19, 2016 The username is one you type in the nickname category. So yeah, probably still Xiro. I don't remember and I haven't bothered checking 1 Sendou Aichi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystics Apprentice 2,397 Posted September 19, 2016 Yeah as Shun said, the game has changed drastically since the old days. But some famous cards like Dark Magician and Red-Eyes Black Dragon have gotten recent legacy support to make them at least playable in today's meta. But it seems they gave Blue-Eyes all the best support for obvious reasons But yeah, I'd also be happy to briefly explain what's going on in the current meta. (: Peace! Thanks, Yuya. I could entirely believe that the game changed much since the original series. I wasn't sure if my old tricks will still work against a newer deck, but perhaps it would be too outdated that I'd be at an immense disadvantage. Have the rules changed significantly since the original rulebook that came out with starter decks? I'm still considering whether I should join or not, as I'd hate to slow anyone down, but I really appreciate your offer of guidance, and if I do try to join i may take you up on that. Updated OP including number of participants and details. As for the meta ban, I think I'll just limit T3 to use in only one duel, T1 and T2 will be completely banned. The only problem in the sign-up thing is that download was terminated, so you have to download using the link above. I am not even sure if you have to create a user at the site. The main problem in the second sentence is that the game changed a lot since then, so even if a deck that is bad by today's standards, but still use modern cards including the new summoning methods is up against a good deck when the original series aired, the modern deck will have a much better chance of winning, as long as they both follow the ban list that is(The original YGO had some extremely broken cards). I will be happy to teach you about the changes, if you want . The username is one you type in the nickname category. Yeah, I was partly worried about this. I used to have a pretty effective strategy using the original cards (and am very familiar with most cards from the original series), but I didn't keep up with the newer series or its cards. I really appreciate your offer of guidance, but I also do not want to hold you up or slow you down. When are you thinking about starting the tournament? If it's okay I will try to think this over and do some research on the newer decks and card options in the meantime. 2 Sendou Aichi and Yuya Sakaki reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuya Sakaki 5,212 Posted September 19, 2016 Thanks, Yuya. I could entirely believe that the game changed much since the original series. I wasn't sure if my old tricks will still work against a newer deck, but perhaps it would be too outdated that I'd be at an immense disadvantage. Have the rules changed significantly since the original rulebook that came out with starter decks? I'm still considering whether I should join or not, as I'd hate to slow anyone down, but I really appreciate your offer of guidance, and if I do try to join i may take you up on that. Yeah, I was partly worried about this. I used to have a pretty effective strategy using the original cards (and am very familiar with most cards from the original series), but I didn't keep up with the newer series or its cards. I really appreciate your offer of guidance, but I also do not want to hold you up or slow you down. When are you thinking about starting the tournament? If it's okay I will try to think this over and do some research on the newer decks and card options in the meantime. Naw, you wouldn't slow us down. This tourney isn't really competitive, it's all for fun's sake! As for the rules, nothing has significantly changed other than the added summon mechanics like Synchro, Xyz, and Pendulum Summons. Although they recently changed it so the player who goes first can't draw a card in addition to not attacking. Also both players can have individual field spells active simultaneously as opposed to having just one face-up at a time. But all the basics are still the same like one Normal Summon/Set per turn, Special Summon as many times as you like (heh... today's meta is predominantly Special Summons), activate/set spells and traps, attack, all that good jazz. What I suggest is that since you're mostly familiar with the OG cards you should use a Dark Magician or Red-Eyes (or even Blue-Eyes but that has limitations in this tourney since it's doing really well right now) with the more recent support added for them. That way, you don't have to swallow too much in a limited amount of time. Actually my main concern is that the program we'll be using has a time limit for each turn of 180 seconds. And if that time limit runs out you lose the duel on the spot (honestly, they should have made it so it just ends your turn automatically). So you'll have to learn to play fast in a short amount of time. Peace! 2 Mystics Apprentice and Sendou Aichi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sendou Aichi 2,356 Posted September 19, 2016 So some updates. Meta ban will probably happen, including T3. Also, I want to clarify that you are allowed to switch decks between rounds/duels, as long as they are not any of the banned decks. EDIT: As for the time limit(3 minutes, but for decks that can use a ton of moves that is rather short), if someone loses because of it I will allow a rematch, details like that will be at the tournament thread. Of course, I won't allow anyone to abuse it. If someone is losing and he is just waiting for the time limit to be over in order to get a rematch, it will also count as a lost. I hope we won't have to reach something like that though.... Thanks, Yuya. I could entirely believe that the game changed much since the original series. I wasn't sure if my old tricks will still work against a newer deck, but perhaps it would be too outdated that I'd be at an immense disadvantage. Have the rules changed significantly since the original rulebook that came out with starter decks?I'm still considering whether I should join or not, as I'd hate to slow anyone down, but I really appreciate your offer of guidance, and if I do try to join i may take you up on that. Yeah, I was partly worried about this. I used to have a pretty effective strategy using the original cards (and am very familiar with most cards from the original series), but I didn't keep up with the newer series or its cards. I really appreciate your offer of guidance, but I also do not want to hold you up or slow you down.When are you thinking about starting the tournament? If it's okay I will try to think this over and do some research on the newer decks and card options in the meantime. Don't worry about that, you won't slow me down at all The main changes are that there are three new summoning methods- Synchro, Xyz, and lastly, pendulum. Synchro and Xyz cards are both in the extra deck Pendulum cards are in the deck itself. Synchro monsters at base, in order to be summon, they require a tuner monster(they have a yellow coloured level in YGOPro and are listed as a tuner in the monster type area physically), and 1 or more(depending on card) non-tuner monster to be on the field. The sum of these levels need to be equal to the Synchro monster. There are special cases though. Some monsters require a synchro a non-tuner monsters, some require(including the tuner monster) Pendulum cards are sent to the extra deck upon leaving from the field to the graveyard. They can be set in the pendulum zone(in this image: https://gruntmods.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/YGOPro-slide-1024x638.jpg, they are the cards that are coloured both green and yellow/orange. The zone is where the rightmost and leftmost cards are located.) When they are in the pendulum zone, they can special summon some monsters(including pendulum monsters in the extra deck) as long as their levels are between the scales of the two pendulum monsters in the zone (the numbers under the blue and red thing in this pic, for example:http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh/images/a/a7/QliphortScout-MP15-EN-UR-1E.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/198?cb=20150920183532&format=webp). When in the pendulum zone, they are treated as spell cards and don't have their monster effect anymore, but a pendulum effect that can only activate in the pendulum zone. For more info-http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Pendulum_Monster Xyz cards are a game changer due to the nature of that summoning method-you just need to have a number of monsters of the same levels to summon them, so you don't need to adjust your main deck to them unless you want your deck to be Xyz summoning focused(depending on the Xyz card, the minimum amount of cards needed are two. Also some of them require that in addition to the same level, they need to have the same type/attribute) Most of the decks now have a full extra deck(15 cards) because of these. They got ranks, not levels, so effects that are level specific won't work on them. Another main change is that the game is now focused on Archtypes- a group of cards that share around a theme for the main cards. Another change is that now both players can use a field spell at the same time, without the field spell being destroyed, and that now the player with the first turn doesn't get an additional draw- his starting hand is 6. I'll start the tournament when we will have 8 people and when both Mythril and Quid will sign-up, though if someone refuses(we are actually 8 with you, including the other two) I won't have much problems starting it, I just want to be it at least 8 people for an idea I got. 2 Yuya Sakaki and Mystics Apprentice reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weedanort 8,786 Posted September 19, 2016 So I almost forgot to say it, but the vote is public so only people who sign up can affect it. https://mega.nz/#!Z0hw2ZiQ!5s39bnXUrnkwRRFt66p8DASZKi9r0mLIIHPeMAiv-vg I am just not a fan of FTKs because they are rather trollish, since only habd traps work against them if the user is lucky. *Sees OCG banlist *Gateway of the Six at 3 ... ... Shuuuuuuuuuuuuun ~ LET'S PLAY WITH OCG BANLIST 2 Sendou Aichi and Yuya Sakaki reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuya Sakaki 5,212 Posted September 19, 2016 *Sees OCG banlist *Gateway of the Six at 3 ... ... Shuuuuuuuuuuuuun ~ LET'S PLAY WITH OCG BANLIST BUT MAII LEVEL EATERS ;A; Peace! 2 Weedanort and Sendou Aichi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sendou Aichi 2,356 Posted September 19, 2016 *Sees OCG banlist *Gateway of the Six at 3 ... ... Shuuuuuuuuuuuuun ~ LET'S PLAY WITH OCG BANLIST So you intend on joining after all? I can prove that the falcon is superior to the crow! Lol, things like that are exactly why I decided we will use a TCG banlist Upstart is unlimited there too OCG seems to be a lot more gentle about the ban list, not sure why. Allure was at 3 much longer before it was 3 in the TCG lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystics Apprentice 2,397 Posted September 20, 2016 Naw, you wouldn't slow us down. This tourney isn't really competitive, it's all for fun's sake! As for the rules, nothing has significantly changed other than the added summon mechanics like Synchro, Xyz, and Pendulum Summons. Although they recently changed it so the player who goes first can't draw a card in addition to not attacking. Also both players can have individual field spells active simultaneously as opposed to having just one face-up at a time. But all the basics are still the same like one Normal Summon/Set per turn, Special Summon as many times as you like (heh... today's meta is predominantly Special Summons), activate/set spells and traps, attack, all that good jazz. What I suggest is that since you're mostly familiar with the OG cards you should use a Dark Magician or Red-Eyes (or even Blue-Eyes but that has limitations in this tourney since it's doing really well right now) with the more recent support added for them. That way, you don't have to swallow too much in a limited amount of time. Actually my main concern is that the program we'll be using has a time limit for each turn of 180 seconds. And if that time limit runs out you lose the duel on the spot (honestly, they should have made it so it just ends your turn automatically). So you'll have to learn to play fast in a short amount of time. Peace! So some updates. Meta ban will probably happen, including T3. Also, I want to clarify that you are allowed to switch decks between rounds/duels, as long as they are not any of the banned decks. EDIT: As for the time limit(3 minutes, but for decks that can use a ton of moves that is rather short), if someone loses because of it I will allow a rematch, details like that will be at the tournament thread. Of course, I won't allow anyone to abuse it. If someone is losing and he is just waiting for the time limit to be over in order to get a rematch, it will also count as a lost. I hope we won't have to reach something like that though.... Don't worry about that, you won't slow me down at all The main changes are that there are three new summoning methods- Synchro, Xyz, and lastly, pendulum. Synchro and Xyz cards are both in the extra deck Pendulum cards are in the deck itself. Synchro monsters at base, in order to be summon, they require a tuner monster(they have a yellow coloured level in YGOPro and are listed as a tuner in the monster type area physically), and 1 or more(depending on card) non-tuner monster to be on the field. The sum of these levels need to be equal to the Synchro monster. There are special cases though. Some monsters require a synchro a non-tuner monsters, some require(including the tuner monster) Pendulum cards are sent to the extra deck upon leaving from the field to the graveyard. They can be set in the pendulum zone(in this image: https://gruntmods.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/YGOPro-slide-1024x638.jpg, they are the cards that are coloured both green and yellow/orange. The zone is where the rightmost and leftmost cards are located.) When they are in the pendulum zone, they can special summon some monsters(including pendulum monsters in the extra deck) as long as their levels are between the scales of the two pendulum monsters in the zone (the numbers under the blue and red thing in this pic, for example:http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh/images/a/a7/QliphortScout-MP15-EN-UR-1E.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/198?cb=20150920183532&format=webp). When in the pendulum zone, they are treated as spell cards and don't have their monster effect anymore, but a pendulum effect that can only activate in the pendulum zone. For more info-http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Pendulum_Monster Xyz cards are a game changer due to the nature of that summoning method-you just need to have a number of monsters of the same levels to summon them, so you don't need to adjust your main deck to them unless you want your deck to be Xyz summoning focused(depending on the Xyz card, the minimum amount of cards needed are two. Also some of them require that in addition to the same level, they need to have the same type/attribute) Most of the decks now have a full extra deck(15 cards) because of these. They got ranks, not levels, so effects that are level specific won't work on them. Another main change is that the game is now focused on Archtypes- a group of cards that share around a theme for the main cards. Another change is that now both players can use a field spell at the same time, without the field spell being destroyed, and that now the player with the first turn doesn't get an additional draw- his starting hand is 6. I'll start the tournament when we will have 8 people and when both Mythril and Quid will sign-up, though if someone refuses(we are actually 8 with you, including the other two) I won't have much problems starting it, I just want to be it at least 8 people for an idea I got. Thank you both very much for your help and kindness. I'm slightly familiar with xyz summoning (my friend uses this strategy) and I've heard of pendulum decks, but I have never implemented them myself and thus I will be trying out a new strategy in a tournament, which is probably not a good idea. I think I should be fine with the time limit, though with the meta ban: does this mean that I cannot use my Blue Eyes White Dragons? *sniff*. I'm going to ensure that my computer is compatible with the YGO Pro software tomorrow morning and will give you my final decision then, if that would be okay. I would love to join and think it would be a lot of fun, but I understand too that I'm outdated. 2 Sendou Aichi and Yuya Sakaki reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sendou Aichi 2,356 Posted September 20, 2016 Thank you both very much for your help and kindness. I'm slightly familiar with xyz summoning (my friend uses this strategy) and I've heard of pendulum decks, but I have never implemented them myself and thus I will be trying out a new strategy in a tournament, which is probably not a good idea. I think I should be fine with the time limit, though with the meta ban: does this mean that I cannot use my Blue Eyes White Dragons? *sniff*. I'm going to ensure that my computer is compatible with the YGO Pro software tomorrow morning and will give you my final decision then, if that would be okay. I would love to join and think it would be a lot of fun, but I understand too that I'm outdated. Not all of them, just the cards that got out since the new movie, though Blue-eyes is pretty bad that way And don't worry about it, I am doing the toutnament for fun, not the competetive side I can always help you if you will need any help too 1 Mystics Apprentice reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystics Apprentice 2,397 Posted September 20, 2016 Not all of them, just the cards that got out since the new movie, though Blue-eyes is pretty bad that way And don't worry about it, I am doing the toutnament for fun, not the competetive side I can always help you if you will need any help too In that case I shall do my best, and hopefully I don't get crushed spontaneously. By the way, do you know if there's a Mac version of YGOPro? Unfortunately the link you provided couldn't be opened on my computer, which I'm assuming is because I have a Mac and it's for Windows. 2 Yuya Sakaki and Sendou Aichi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sendou Aichi 2,356 Posted September 20, 2016 In that case I shall do my best, and hopefully I don't get crushed spontaneously. By the way, do you know if there's a Mac version of YGOPro? Unfortunately the link you provided couldn't be opened on my computer, which I'm assuming is because I have a Mac and it's for Windows. There ya go, it is on their discord server btw, if you mind that: http://www.ygopro.co/YgoproReleaseNotes/tabid/139/EntryId/1146/YGOPRO-1-033-A.aspx And don't worry about getting crushed, that's why Xam is here 2 Yuya Sakaki and Mystics Apprentice reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 quid is good 2,209 Posted September 22, 2016 Right, so I'm gonna make a ygopro account today, I promise 2 Yuya Sakaki and Sendou Aichi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sendou Aichi 2,356 Posted September 22, 2016 Right, so I'm gonna make a ygopro account today, I promise I don't think you even need to make an account, just download the game from here since download is terminated: https://mega.nz/#!Z0hw2ZiQ!5s39bnXUrnkwRRFt66p8DASZKi9r0mLIIHPeMAiv-vg 2 2 quid is good and Yuya Sakaki reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuya Sakaki 5,212 Posted September 22, 2016 Right, so I'm gonna make a ygopro account today, I promise Omg finally how many cookies did you need to be convinced lol Peace! 2 Sendou Aichi and 2 quid is good reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites