keystrike 145 Posted September 25, 2010 There is some good evidence for both sides; so what do you think? Is the door to darkness kingdom hearts. Discuss. My response: The door to darkness is obviously kingdom hearts. Ansem sod calls out to it in such a way that how could it not be. Also when The door to darkness was sealed and disappeared End of The World and Traverse town both disappeared; this was because the worlds taken by the heartless created an artificial kingdom hearts that became the door to darkness much like Xemnas' kingdom hearts. Therefore by making the door to darkness disappear kingdom hearts was freed and these two worlds disappeared because the original worlds were returning. By the way the main evidence for it not being kingdom hearts is in com. I do believe Mickey talks to Riku about seeing the light beyond the door the door to darkness and he does not refer to the door to darkness as kingdom hearts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heartless101 83 Posted September 25, 2010 I think that Kingdom Hearts IS the door to Darkness Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DARKNESS 1 Posted September 25, 2010 Yes, Kingdom Hearts is the Door to Darkness. In Birth by Sleep, both MX and Kairi's Grandmother mention that the true light sleeps within the deepest depths of the darkness, which is why MX wanted the "X"-blade. So he could open Kingdom Hearts, reconnect the worlds, start a second keyblade war, witness the end, and see what the light brings about this time. The true light sleeps within Kingdom Hearts. EDIT: Technically, if you think about it, Kingdom Hearts is both and neither. Read the statement above. Now, think about this; Kingdom Hearts can be made of basically the hearts of anything(people, worlds, etc.) so if you think about it, the theory above stands but more accurately Kingdom Hearts is the darkness that houses the true light within Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Space Cowboy 1,392 Posted September 25, 2010 I actually think Kingdom Hearts can be BOTH. According to Nomura, the color of Kingdom Hearts changes due to the way it is created. The KH created in KH1-KH2 is created by people's hearts which have fallen into darkness. The KH in BBS was created from the hearts of the worlds. I think the yellow Kingdom Hearts is the DTD because the hearts it is made of fell from darkness, therefore making it dark. Even though we don't see a door in BBS, I think that the blue Kingdom Hearts is the door to light. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DARKNESS 1 Posted September 25, 2010 Okay, I made an edit to my post to help justify my slightly new point. Its similar to SK3's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keystrike 145 Posted September 26, 2010 I actually think Kingdom Hearts can be BOTH. According to Nomura, the color of Kingdom Hearts changes due to the way it is created. The KH created in KH1-KH2 is created by people's hearts which have fallen into darkness. The KH in BBS was created from the hearts of the worlds. I think the yellow Kingdom Hearts is the DTD because the hearts it is made of fell from darkness, therefore making it dark. Even though we don't see a door in BBS, I think that the blue Kingdom Hearts is the door to light. Actually the kh1 kh was constructed of hearts of worlds which gathered in End of The World. the world. And as to kh, the door to light, and the door to darkness, I find that an interesting subject. If you think about it the dtd/dtl are the same thing it is just they are on different sides... actually never mind I take that back. The dtl was in the imbetween on the road to darkness to light; the dtd was on the road to light to the darkness. So in truth I will come to a similar conclusion that they are the same, but at the same time not the same. To DARKNESS: This is where in my opinion the topic becomes controversial due to all the evidence to this in com. The biggest problem I have with this is that the door to darkness leads to the dark realm and in the dark realm lies kh. So if the dtd is only a portal to the dark realm and that portal is kingdom hearts why cant you just use the dtd as your kh. Also nomura did say the dtl being in the ocean of darkness was symbolising the light within the darkness. The answer is that you can and Ansem sod was going to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinode 3,056 Posted October 19, 2010 Yep, It is a diffrent dor depending on the way it was created. it can be both. I can't really tell examples because im not 100% sure, I'm not gonna lie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reversal 53 Posted October 19, 2010 There is some good evidence for both sides; so what do you think? Is the door to darkness kingdom hearts. Discuss. My response: The door to darkness is obviously kingdom hearts. No, Kingdom Hearts lies in the farthest depths of the Realm of Darkness. Remember when Sora said that there is light in the deepest darkness? Same concept applies. Ansem sod calls out to it in such a way that how could it not be. He called out to KH, and the Door to Darkness burst open and light shined through. If the DTD was literally KH, then wouldn't the door itself be the one to shine? Also when The door to darkness was sealed and disappeared End of The World and Traverse town both disappeared; this was because the worlds taken by the heartless created an artificial kingdom hearts that became the door to darkness much like Xemnas' kingdom hearts. Um, no. There was no artificial KH mentioned at all in KH1. Traverse Town and End of the World are worlds created from the fragments of those worlds that had been destroyed (the reason why you can see bits and pieces of Enchanted Dominion, Dwarf Woodlands, and Castle of Dreams in EotW). Therefore by making the door to darkness disappear kingdom hearts was freed and these two worlds disappeared because the original worlds were returning. No and yes. Sora and Mickey didn't free Kingdom Hearts. They just sealed the DtD. By the way the main evidence for it not being kingdom hearts is in com. I do believe Mickey talks to Riku about seeing the light beyond the door the door to darkness and he does not refer to the door to darkness as kingdom hearts. And he's right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keystrike 145 Posted October 20, 2010 No' date=' Kingdom Hearts lies in the farthest depths of the Realm of Darkness. Remember when Sora said that there is light in the deepest darkness? Same concept applies.[/quote'] Let me ask you this: Is the dtd still not in the dark realm? Hence; the concept does apply and because eotw created an artificial kh, the other side of the dtd is at eotw. He called out to KH' date=' and the Door to Darkness burst open and light shined through. If the DTD was literally KH, then wouldn't the door itself be the one to shine? [/quote'] No, light cannot pass through the dtd and hence the light could not have been from the kh within the rod. Nomura interview for proof: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites