The 'X-Blade Fragments'

1- It was technically Aqua who destroyed the X-Blade. Ven just helped from inside.

2- The Keychain for The X-Blade is two Kingdom Keys and just an empty heart, not the full heartless symbol (which wasn't even thought up until the creation of the Emblem Heartless by Xehanort).

3- It is, however a very clever and well thought out theory, but still, as you stated, it is very unlikely that the Way to the Dawn was created in the destruction of the X-Blade.

will that is a good statment from the way i see it but that third keyblad part if there was a third keyblad it would have to be the one riku had at the end of kh1 the keyblad to peoples hearts (god i wish you could have gotton that keyblad)

Wow, I am really impressed by this long epic paragraph you wrote .

 

Anyway, I don't think that Way To Dawn has anything to do with the X-Blade. I mean sure both the X-Blade and Way To Dawn show the same "symbol" on their keychains, but it seems unlikely that they are somewhat related. This is my opinion anyway^^.

will that is a good statment from the way i see it but that third keyblad part if there was a third keyblad it would have to be the one riku had at the end of kh1 the keyblad to peoples hearts (god i wish you could have gotton that keyblad)

 

It's entirely impossible for the Keyblade of Peoples' Hearts to have any connection to the X-Blade, since it was created from a bunch of hearts on the spot.

Your theory reminds me of the BBS intro, right after Ven's Awakening platform breaks under him, revealing the Kingdom Key and Soul Eater. Not sure if it actually means anything; that's just what it reminded me of But right now, I'm pretty neutral on the subject. I'd like to say yes, but my brain says "no, not really."

 

1- It was technically Aqua who destroyed the X-Blade. Ven just helped from inside.

Combined effort really. I honestly don't believe Aqua's deus ex machina was enough to destroy the X-blade on it's own, Master or not. Vanitas' defeat within Ven weakened the X-blade on the outside.

 

will that is a good statment from the way i see it but that third keyblad part if there was a third keyblad it would have to be the one riku had at the end of kh1 the keyblad to peoples hearts (god i wish you could have gotton that keyblad)

 

That Keyblade, like Terranort said, was created out of the hearts of the seven Princesses of Heart 10 years later, and is overall irrelevant to the X-blade. Also, the Keyblade of People's Hearts is not the onlyKeyblade of a person's heart. Just saying.

I made a thread saying the same thing in April or so last year. Anyways I will expand on this idea of the third keyblade later, and the realms. *goes to check my ds* I still have all my notes on this theory on flipnotes studio and I am even more convinced this is a possibility, but right now I can't write it all up sooo.....

(This thread contains spoilers for those people who have either not played or watched a play through of Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep.)

 

(I also apologize, the first, extremely long paragraph below is not my full point, it is just a reconfirmation of something that is, that I'm sure of anyways, absolutely true.)

 

You recall X-Blade. Supposedly the most powerful Keyblade ever, it has the power to unlock or lock Kingdom Hearts, which no other Keyblade can do. Well as you recall, Ventus destroyed it. I first would like to point out a practically indisputable fact, not many people could deny it. Upon the X-Blade's destruction, two Keyblades were 'made'. Those two Keyblades are the Kingdom Key and Kingdom Key D. This is a somewhat obvious statement if you look at all the facts. A casual observer of the X-Blade and the two Keyblades Kingdom Key and Kingdom Key D would notice the fact that the X-Blade is composed of two Kingdom Key's which are crossed together, as well as a intricate blade sprouting from the top. The Keychain is also two Kingdom Keys crossed over a Heartless symbol which is devoid of the red X that the common Heartless symbol possesses. Also, consider the plot of Kingdom Hearts 1. King Mickey had acquired the Kingdom Key D, and sent Donald and Goofy on a mission to find the wielder of the 'corresponding' key, the Kingdom Key, which Sora possessed. They traveled on a journey to find King Mickey, not actually knowing what King Mickey needed Sora for. The initial purpose that King Mickey had for finding Sora (And an obvious one at that) was to close Kingdom Hearts (Unless I'm actually a bumbling idiot who has absolutely any idea of what he is talking about). But those two Keyblades were necessary because they were the fragments of the X-Blade, which is why Ansem SoD (Seeker of Darkness) stated "It is futile. The Keyblade alone, cannot seal the Door to Darkness." He was true, it could not close it by itself, it needed the other half of the X-Blade.

 

And after that long and exhausting side explanation of why those two Keyblades are Fragments of the X-Blade. However, due to a thread created by sora mahon, and my response, it got me thinking about this, what if there were a third Keyblade? That's right. I think that a third Keyblade created upon the destruction of the X-Blade, due to only one small piece of evidence. I am being led to believe that this third Keyblade was the Keyblade that Riku possesses: Way to the Dawn. I will be honest, it is a very unlikely possibility, but I still consider it possible. The small piece of evidence that I mentioned can be found in the Keychains of the X-Blade and the Way to the Dawn Keyblade. If my eyes do not fail me, they both possess a 'X-less' Heartless symbol. That one little thing led me to believe that the Way to the Dawn Keyblade was also created upon the destruction of the X-Blade, however, I myself tend to doubt it.

 

Well, that's all I really have to say about it, feel free to criticize any flaws and what-not.

 

here is something that can help yo there the door to darknes was also in kh2 right and then sora mckey AND riku closed it FOR GOOD

(Unless I'm actually a bumbling idiot who has absolutely any idea of what he is talking about).

 

pretty much this.

 

see below.

I honestly LOVE this Theory. It would also explain the connection to why those three The Kingdom key D, the Kingdom Key, and Way to the dawn were all picked up by the three in the initial secret video, at the end of the english version of Kingdom Hearts 2. Is it unlikely, yes, do I like to think it is true anyways, because it is BAD@$$, Hell yea!

 

@Terranort, actually it has been confirmed that most everything that Xehanort, Ansem SoD, and Xemnas used had some sort of relation to his past. All the symbols were variations of the symbol all of Eraques students wore. It doesn't matter that he didn't make the symbol yet, because he got the symbol from Somewhere.

I honestly LOVE this Theory. It would also explain the connection to why those three The Kingdom key D, the Kingdom Key, and Way to the dawn were all picked up by the three in the initial secret video, at the end of the english version of Kingdom Hearts 2. Is it unlikely, yes, do I like to think it is true anyways, because it is BAD@$$, Hell yea!

I'm pretty sure they were only there because BBS was originally supposed to be after KH2. But they changed their minds before KH2 FM and made that secret ending.

 

As for the theory, I doubt it. First of all, the Kingdom Key D inverts the colors of the original Kingdom Key. If they both were to be made from the X-blade, then one of the two Kingdom Key's on it would have inverted colors. Also, if you pay attention to the scene where it gets destroyed, you'll see it competely shatters and disintegrates, incliding the Kingdom Keys. As to what Ansem SoD said, he meant only one Keyblade alone couldn't seal it. Sora and Mickey used two.

Interesting. I aways thought the X Blade was made of KK And KKD, but the way to the dawn part doesn't make sense to me. THOUGH it is a very good theory, and you did have your points.

Hey, you've forgot the '' Hm...''

(This thread contains spoilers for those people who have either not played or watched a play through of Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep.)

 

(I also apologize, the first, extremely long paragraph below is not my full point, it is just a reconfirmation of something that is, that I'm sure of anyways, absolutely true.)

 

You recall X-Blade. Supposedly the most powerful Keyblade ever, it has the power to unlock or lock Kingdom Hearts, which no other Keyblade can do. Well as you recall, Ventus destroyed it. I first would like to point out a practically indisputable fact, not many people could deny it. Upon the X-Blade's destruction, two Keyblades were 'made'. Those two Keyblades are the Kingdom Key and Kingdom Key D. This is a somewhat obvious statement if you look at all the facts. A casual observer of the X-Blade and the two Keyblades Kingdom Key and Kingdom Key D would notice the fact that the X-Blade is composed of two Kingdom Key's which are crossed together, as well as a intricate blade sprouting from the top. The Keychain is also two Kingdom Keys crossed over a Heartless symbol which is devoid of the red X that the common Heartless symbol possesses. Also, consider the plot of Kingdom Hearts 1. King Mickey had acquired the Kingdom Key D, and sent Donald and Goofy on a mission to find the wielder of the 'corresponding' key, the Kingdom Key, which Sora possessed. They traveled on a journey to find King Mickey, not actually knowing what King Mickey needed Sora for. The initial purpose that King Mickey had for finding Sora (And an obvious one at that) was to close Kingdom Hearts (Unless I'm actually a bumbling idiot who has absolutely any idea of what he is talking about). But those two Keyblades were necessary because they were the fragments of the X-Blade, which is why Ansem SoD (Seeker of Darkness) stated "It is futile. The Keyblade alone, cannot seal the Door to Darkness." He was true, it could not close it by itself, it needed the other half of the X-Blade.

 

And after that long and exhausting side explanation of why those two Keyblades are Fragments of the X-Blade. However, due to a thread created by sora mahon, and my response, it got me thinking about this, what if there were a third Keyblade? That's right. I think that a third Keyblade created upon the destruction of the X-Blade, due to only one small piece of evidence. I am being led to believe that this third Keyblade was the Keyblade that Riku possesses: Way to the Dawn. I will be honest, it is a very unlikely possibility, but I still consider it possible. The small piece of evidence that I mentioned can be found in the Keychains of the X-Blade and the Way to the Dawn Keyblade. If my eyes do not fail me, they both possess a 'X-less' Heartless symbol. That one little thing led me to believe that the Way to the Dawn Keyblade was also created upon the destruction of the X-Blade, however, I myself tend to doubt it.

 

Well, that's all I really have to say about it, feel free to criticize any flaws and what-not.

 

now that you mention it, kingdom key and kingdom key d were needed to close kingdom hearts. when xemnas created his artificial kingdom hearts, sora,riku,and mickey opened the door with kingdom key, kingdom key d, and way to the dawn. this might be some possible evidence that way to the dawn is the third part

now that you mention it, kingdom key and kingdom key d were needed to close kingdom hearts. when xemnas created his artificial kingdom hearts, sora,riku,and mickey opened the door with kingdom key, kingdom key d, and way to the dawn. this might be some possible evidence that way to the dawn is the third part

 

Actually, when you open the door in KH2 Micky uses KKD, Riku uses WTD, and Sora uses whatever Keyblade you equip him with. Also, it's not possible for them to be from the X-blade, since when it gets destroyed, it shatters and then disentigrates, including the part with the two Kingdom Keys.

 

Here is a video to show you. Watch from 1:49-1:53

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now that you mention it, kingdom key and kingdom key d were needed to close kingdom hearts. when xemnas created his artificial kingdom hearts, sora,riku,and mickey opened the door with kingdom key, kingdom key d, and way to the dawn. this might be some possible evidence that way to the dawn is the third part

 

Actually, when you open the door in KH2 Micky uses KKD, Riku uses WTD, and Sora uses whatever Keyblade you equip him with. Also, it's not possible for them to be from the X-blade, since when it gets destroyed, it shatters and then disentigrates, including the part with the two Kingdom Keys.

 

Here is a video to show you. Watch from 1:49-1:53

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fool. It doesn't matter what keychain is on the keyblade, the keyblade itself is the same

Also, it's not possible for them to be from the X-blade, since when it gets destroyed, it shatters and then disentigrates, including the part with the two Kingdom Keys.

Oh, right, I forgot, because they BUILT the X-blade manually out of unicorn bones and fairy dust and once taken apart it can never be whole again...!

 

Was it ever stated that the Keyblades have to be physically sound for a wielder to summon it? Who says that, maybe, through the strength of their hearts or something like that, Sora and Mickey (and, if you're fitting in with the third keyblade theory, Riku) couldn't have summoned their respective keyblades, part of the shattered remains? Just because it disintegrated doesn't necessarily it's absolutely gone forever.

 

After all, Ventus and Vanitas were the ones who completed it, so to speak, when they joined together. They're deeply connected to it- and Ventus is still alive, in part, his body alseep and his heart resting in Sora (well, since it's believed to have been inside Roxas, who then merged with Sora...) and I think some part of Vanitas must still exist- why else would they reveal a character who resembles Sora so much, and only have his face on screen for about ten minutes before Ven "kills" him off?

I've heard this theory before, but never really believed it until now. You've got a really good point about the door in KH1. Apparently the X-blade controls Kingdom Hearts, so it would make sense if the only keyblades that could close it were the two halves of the X-blade. Not sure about Way to the Dawn since there's not really any proof towards it, but then again Sora, Mickey, and Riku were all needed to open the door to Xemnas's kingdom hearts, so who knows.

Well maybe the Kingdom Key and the Kingdom Key D wouldn't have to look the same after splitting off. Since KK was kind of in the Realm of Light, it could have that color scheme, then KKD was found in the Realm of Darkness, so it has the opposite color scheme...maybe KK representing Ventus's heart of light and KKD Vanitas's heart of darkness? (Although that then produces the question of "Why couldn't they be different colors WHEN part of the X-Blade?) And I did wonder about Sora, Mickey, and Riku opening the door together in KHII...so...that could mean something...

 

HMM.

it's a very good theory, and i almost want to go with it. but going back to the door of Kingdom Hearts, in KH2, yes, sora, mickey, AND riku use their keyblades to enter Kingdom Hearts and battle xemnas. but if you look back to KH1, after you fight ansem SoD, when the door was closed, that time it was only sora and mickey using their keyblades to close the door.

it's a very good theory, and i almost want to go with it. but going back to the door of Kingdom Hearts, in KH2, yes, sora, mickey, AND riku use their keyblades to enter Kingdom Hearts and battle xemnas. but if you look back to KH1, after you fight ansem SoD, when the door was closed, that time it was only sora and mickey using their keyblades to close the door.

 

That's because Riku didn't have a Keyblade in KH1. Plus it probably wouldn't take three Keyblades anyways to close Kingdom Hearts, only open it.

 

it's a very good theory, and i almost want to go with it. but going back to the door of Kingdom Hearts, in KH2, yes, sora, mickey, AND riku use their keyblades to enter Kingdom Hearts and battle xemnas. but if you look back to KH1, after you fight ansem SoD, when the door was closed, that time it was only sora and mickey using their keyblades to close the door.

 

That's because Riku didn't have a Keyblade in KH1. Plus it probably wouldn't take three Keyblades anyways to close Kingdom Hearts, only open it.

 

didn't riku have soul eater at the end of KH1? or did he only first acquire it in CoM?

 

 

it's a very good theory, and i almost want to go with it. but going back to the door of Kingdom Hearts, in KH2, yes, sora, mickey, AND riku use their keyblades to enter Kingdom Hearts and battle xemnas. but if you look back to KH1, after you fight ansem SoD, when the door was closed, that time it was only sora and mickey using their keyblades to close the door.

 

That's because Riku didn't have a Keyblade in KH1. Plus it probably wouldn't take three Keyblades anyways to close Kingdom Hearts, only open it.

 

didn't riku have soul eater at the end of KH1? or did he only first acquire it in CoM?

 

He did, but that isn't a Keyblade. It is a sword summoned by the darkness in his heart. Just a Sword. But it did turn into Way to the Dawn sometime in between the second visit in Land of the Dragons, and the last visit to Twilight Town.

Wow, in just a days time I have 3 pages of responses, I feel 'accomplished' <8D

 

Anyways, as I have noticed as people have been talking about the differences in coloring between KK and KKD. I've thought about it previously, and have a possible reason for why that is so. As you recall, to make the X-Blade, two people of equal powers, one in light, one in dark, must merge together, if I understand correctly, as that is what happened between Ventus and Vanitas. Considering this, perhaps the X-Blade is a Keyblade balanced between light and darkness. If this is so, then perhaps when the X-Blade was destroyed, it was separated into a Keyblade of Light and a Keyblade of Darkness, hence, the Kingdom Key and the Kingdom Key D. That would explain the differences in color between the KK and KKD, and the reasoning why the crossed Kingdom Keys on the X-Blade are of the same color, because the X-Blade is balanced between light and dark. That is just my own theory though, and cannot be proven. Speculate if you would like.

Wow, in just a days time I have 3 pages of responses, I feel 'accomplished' <8D

 

Anyways, as I have noticed as people have been talking about the differences in coloring between KK and KKD. I've thought about it previously, and have a possible reason for why that is so. As you recall, to make the X-Blade, two people of equal powers, one in light, one in dark, must merge together, if I understand correctly, as that is what happened between Ventus and Vanitas. Considering this, perhaps the X-Blade is a Keyblade balanced between light and darkness. If this is so, then perhaps when the X-Blade was destroyed, it was separated into a Keyblade of Light and a Keyblade of Darkness, hence, the Kingdom Key and the Kingdom Key D. That would explain the differences in color between the KK and KKD, and the reasoning why the crossed Kingdom Keys on the X-Blade are of the same color, because the X-Blade is balanced between light and dark. That is just my own theory though, and cannot be proven. Speculate if you would like.

 

And what about the fact that it completely disintegrated when it was destroyed, leaving nothing left? Also, the Keyblade Sora has was originally supposed to be Riku's it's just he fell to darkness and that weakened his heart. And since Sora had Ven's heart inside him, and at the time his heart was stronger than Riku's, the Keyblade moved on to him.

 

You also have to remember, Nomura didn't even think of the X-blade until after KH2.

Here is some of that extra evidence I was talking about. Within the bbs data, if you recall from some time ago, was a kingdom key D that ven and only ven could wield. On the subject of deleted data is there any sort of an archive anywhere of removed data? Now ask yourself why would it be in the data? To test out a weapon, I don't think so, they already had TAV's keybades designed. It makes the most sense for it to have been a tentative part of the story that they removed later on. And to those who say they removed those three keyblades in the second part of the secret ending look at 1:29

, however it appears to be in its way to dawn form. Why they don't have it all the way but in this one scene *shrugs*. I believe that these three keyblades in the old version of bbs, once meant to part of, or had a deep connection to the x-blade. There was even a dtd found in the data!

 

Aside from the data and relating to my ideas about the kh mythology the wtd keyblade still fits into this idea. Take into consideration the Door to darkness tied by two keys and one key to open it thing. This part of my theory in short is: The X-blade is to (the realm of) kingdom hearts as the three keyblades are to the three realms. However when applying that two of these keys are tying the door to darkness we are left with way to dawn in the middle where the dtd is. The dtd being closer related to if not the a manifestation of kingdom hearts, and the dtl being the true light (kingdom hearts) within our heart, could it be said that the way to dawn might be related to the dtl. After all the way road/way to dawn would be leading you to the light. The realm of between is also not the most normal realm to be modest.

 

Also the thing about the three keyblades before the final battle of kh2, did anyone else see the heart in the ball of energy before they pointed their keyblades upward. So it took these three to open it the door that the worlds summoned. The x-blade is not man made counterparts to kingdom hearts but instead on the same level as kingdom hearts (?). Could this heart mean something more?

 

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And what about the fact that it completely disintegrated when it was destroyed, leaving nothing left? Also, the Keyblade Sora has was originally supposed to be Riku's it's just he fell to darkness and that weakened his heart. And since Sora had Ven's heart inside him, and at the time his heart was stronger than Riku's, the Keyblade moved on to him.

 

You also have to remember, Nomura didn't even think of the X-blade until after KH2.

 

I feel the 'coincidence' between the three keyblades and the x-blade is evidence so utterly greater than the simple way it was destroyed should undermine that fact. Riku is connected to Vanitas, so that doesn't really matter. Who said Nomura didn't think of the x-blade until after kh2, and in the case that is true you can always build on something established in earlier games into the new ones (i.e. sora stabbing his heart). At the absolute least the three keyblades were going to be put into the game at some point as part of the plot.