Aru Akise 2,540 Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) It's funny when they think Nomura had planned everything since he was character designer for FFVII. Edited July 3, 2015 by Aru Akise Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) Hold on, what's a retcon? I've never heard that term before. It's short for retroactive continuity. It's when you go back and change established canon for one reason or another. For example, characters used to call Sora "The Keyblade Master" but later Keyblade Master became a title in itself and everyone started calling him "Keylbade wielder" or "The Keyblade's Chosen One" The nobodies now can grow their own hearts is a retcon,cuz it was established before that they can't you say this like it hasn't been hinted at literally since KH2 Edited July 4, 2015 by Flaming Lea Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted July 4, 2015 It's short for retroactive continuity. It's when you go back and change established canon for one reason or another. For example, characters used to call Sora "The Keyblade Master" but later Keyblade Master became a title in itself and everyone started calling him "Keylbade wielder" or "The Keyblade's Chosen One" you say this like it hasn't been hinted at literally since KH2 KH2 didn't hint at anything,if anything the nobodies that displayed emotions could've been special cases which is what was heavily implied And even then that's the smallest of issues with the retcons cuz there are ones that're worse Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted July 4, 2015 KH2 didn't hint at anything,if anything the nobodies that displayed emotions could've been special cases which is what was heavily implied And even then that's the smallest of issues with the retcons cuz there are ones that're worse Roxas, are you sure you don't have a heart? We do to have hearts don't be mad So we can drop this charade? He said that he could "feel" Sora, did he KH has other retcons, but some people, like yourself, seem like they really want to convince themselves it's worse than it really is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted July 4, 2015 Back on topic:I don't think everyone who brought the problems of those retcons are wrong.If a problem isn't that bad then why many people(counting outside this site mind you) are mentioning them? It's a problem when said retcons have little to no build up and most of them came out of nowhere making previous elements pointless I'll refer to the thread of my friend Flaming Lea who pointed this stuff out in a better fashion than I did http://kh13.com/forum/topic/87655-something-that-bothers-me/?do=findComment&comment=1674046 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted July 4, 2015 Please keep this civil, friendly, and on topic please! Thanks guys! 2 Dio Brando and Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VisitJoan 2,713 Posted July 5, 2015 It's when you come up with a plot point or a plot device in a story specifically to nullify the effect of a previous event or a plot point as if they didn't happen For example:The nobodies now can grow their own hearts is a retcon,cuz it was established before that they can't Well, if that's the case, then I wouldn't really call Nobodies growing their own hearts one because that's what Xemnas and Co. wanted us to think the whole time. It doesn't really effect anything, because up until the end of DDD, everyone thought that Nobodies were by definition beings without hearts. Nothing is going to erase that. We just got some new information that defines a Nobody as a being that entered the world without a heart. Not completely nullified. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted July 5, 2015 Well, if that's the case, then I wouldn't really call Nobodies growing their own hearts one because that's what Xemnas and Co. wanted us to think the whole time. It doesn't really effect anything, because up until the end of DDD, everyone thought that Nobodies were by definition beings without hearts. Nothing is going to erase that. We just got some new information that defines a Nobody as a being that entered the world without a heart. Not completely nullified. Well that's one example out of many But if a nobody can grow a heart that means they're not nobodies in that case Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites