Official Bowtie Artist 90 Posted January 18, 2015 I'm not sure if anyone has asked this already, and with my poor memory I can't remember if I've asked myself or not, but... Birth By Sleep. Donald and Goofy are both seen at the Mysterious Tower. So, in other words, in past events, Donald has been there, and Donald has had to have acknowledged that Master Yen Sid resides in that Tower. So why is it, that in the events of KH2, that Donald acts completely surprised when he finds out from Pete that Yen Sid lives there? As if it was the first time ever hearing such a thing, like he's never known before? EXPLAIN THIS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwoBecameOne 33 Posted January 18, 2015 This happens when games doesn't come out in chronological order. Probably a timeline error by the makers. 12 Master Eraqus, Movies798, bit and 9 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) I'm not sure if anyone has asked this already, and with my poor memory I can't remember if I've asked myself or not, but...Birth By Sleep. Donald and Goofy are both seen at the Mysterious Tower. So, in other words, in past events, Donald has been there, and Donald has had to have acknowledged that Master Yen Sid resides in that Tower. So why is it, that in the events of KH2, that Donald acts completely surprised when he finds out from Pete that Yen Sid lives there? As if it was the first time ever hearing such a thing, like he's never known before? EXPLAIN THIS.Basically BBS is a plot hole vortex that sucks KH2 in it, as well as any logic created by it. Same with KH1, since apparently Ventus is the only reason now that Sora could use the Keyblade back in one before he grew in strength. Edited January 18, 2015 by Guest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WakingDawn96 1,166 Posted January 18, 2015 When a series doesn't go in a complete order, things get messed up and things have plot holes all over the place. Even if the company tries to explain things, things still get confused and things previously done in a sequel can be outdated by a prequel. That just how things are with these types of games and movies, because if a prequel comes out after the sequel, the story hasn't been worked on for the prequel, so this is just a plot hole and nothing more. Best not to think about it fully. 1 Official Bowtie Artist reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kalen Bellamy 6 Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) Maybe namine forgot to put that memory back in ? Though that would just be square's excuse for forgetting... Edited January 18, 2015 by Kalen Bellamy 3 Movies798, Official Bowtie Artist and Anti-SOLDIER reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted January 18, 2015 Maybe he didn't know the tower was so close to Twilight Town and it was actually the latter that he was referring to when he said "here"? 3 Kello, Official Bowtie Artist and Anti-SOLDIER reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fenrissychros 167 Posted January 18, 2015 Nomura said in an interview that he didn't recognize it because Yen Sid changed the decoration Real reason: plot-hole due to chronological order, and release order Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SRKTVAMDGRLXN 232 Posted January 18, 2015 Nomura said in an interview that he didn't recognize it because Yen Sid changed the decoration Real reason: plot-hole due to chronological order, and release order :huh: ???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fenrissychros 167 Posted January 18, 2015 :huh: ???? In the Ultimania guide of BBS, there is an interview with Nomura. The inteviewer asked him why didn't Donald recognize it in Kh2, and Nomura jokingly said that it was because Yen Sid changed the decoration in kh2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SRKTVAMDGRLXN 232 Posted January 18, 2015 In the Ultimania guide of BBS, there is an interview with Nomura. The inteviewer asked him why didn't Donald recognize it in Kh2, and Nomura jokingly said that it was because Yen Sid changed the decoration in kh2 Trollura... 1 Official Bowtie Artist reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaweebo 3,617 Posted January 18, 2015 In case you haven't noticed, Donald is kind of dumb. 9 Shulk, Official Bowtie Artist, Psychic_Ketchup and 6 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Official Bowtie Artist 90 Posted January 18, 2015 Maybe he didn't know the tower was so close to Twilight Town and it was actually the latter that he was referring to when he said "here"? As a person who enjoys specifics, I very much like what you've pointed out, here. In case you haven't noticed, Donald is kind of dumb. Which is a big statement, out of the three we know. Thank you one and all for your replies! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forever 3,550 Posted January 18, 2015 LOL. One of the oldest, yet funniest plot holes in the KH Lore. "Master Yen Sid lives here??" Pfffffft, how do you forget a floating Tower in the middle of nowhere? It's not exactly a gas station. 1 Nero Kunivas reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bit 944 Posted January 18, 2015 The entire series is pretty much one big web of plot holes and time paradoxes at this point. It's best not to question it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deadpool 1,200 Posted January 18, 2015 In case you haven't noticed, Donald is kind of dumb.You know something is up when Goofy is one of the smarter characters in a series. 1 TwoBecameOne reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dracozombie 4,554 Posted January 18, 2015 Well when you write a big series by the seat of your pants, a few details are gonna slip through the cracks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caity 3,946 Posted January 18, 2015 It happened from making the prequel after the "later" games in terms of the time line. Mistakes happen. Similar to how Sora's called the Keyblade Master in KH1 when BBS retconned that's a title you need to earn not one you just get for having a keyblade. Yet they didn't fix that in the ReMix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kello 310 Posted January 18, 2015 Basically BBS is a plot hole vortex that sucks KH2 in it, as well as any logic created by it. Same with KH1, since apparently Ventus is the only reason now that Sora could use the Keyblade back in one before he grew in strength. Ventus has nothing to do with Sora being Keyblade Wielder, btw. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 18, 2015 Ventus has nothing to do with Sora being Keyblade Wielder, btw.Not according to interviews with Nomura. Apparently Sora was too weak back then, according to him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kello 310 Posted January 18, 2015 Not according to interviews with Nomura. Apparently Sora was too weak back then, according to him. Source, please? All I know is that Sora was chosen by the Keyblade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlankShell 638 Posted January 18, 2015 Yeah, that's one of the more confusing ones. I like to think of it as some combination of Yen Sid's tower island basically being able to hop through time and space (and thus always looks "different" every time) and Donald not actually having stepped foot outside the tower. If you think about it, Sora exited in his Gummi Ship from Yen Sid's window, so maybe Donald and co. were transported directly into the study (and then directly exited from there too). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deadpool 1,200 Posted January 18, 2015 It happened from making the prequel after the "later" games in terms of the time line. Mistakes happen. Similar to how Sora's called the Keyblade Master in KH1 when BBS retconned that's a title you need to earn not one you just get for having a keyblade. Yet they didn't fix that in the ReMix One of my problems with the ReMixes is that they easily could have easily fixed many little errors like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 18, 2015 Source, please?All I know is that Sora was chosen by the Keyblade.Actually, after re-reading the article, tusk out I was wrong. However it is the explination for his abilities in Dual Wielding still and I misinterpreted it. Pardon me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kello 310 Posted January 18, 2015 Actually, after re-reading the article, tusk out I was wrong. However it is the explination for his abilities in Dual Wielding still and I misinterpreted it. Pardon me Making mistakes is only human, I understand Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KH4Real 749 Posted January 18, 2015 Yep was asked before. If you think further. Why shouldn't Donald then be surprised of the Tower instead? I think that Yen Sid mlght have taken over Land of Departure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
