Posted November 13, 201312 yr Why is it that so many Fire-Type Pokémon can learn the move Wild Charge? Since when does fire conduct electricity? Edited November 13, 201312 yr by Varnish
November 13, 201312 yr There are also some Electric Type Pokémon that know fire moves. My theory behind this is this:Fire types can use some Electric moves because both Lightning and Fire are plasma.This has been my theory for a while, but who knows.
November 13, 201312 yr Well both Fire and Electricity run on friction, and there's also that whole plasma thing that 'Twan mentioned. I'd say those are some solid theories...you know, for a Pokemon game.
November 13, 201312 yr Author There are also some Electric Type Pokémon that know fire moves. My theory behind this is this:Fire types can use some Electric moves because both Lightning and Fire are plasma.This has been my theory for a while, but who knows. It is understandable in the case of moves that involve punching, but otherwise, I do not see how it makes much sense for Fire-Types to be able to learn Electric-Type moves, and vice-versa.
November 13, 201312 yr theres no theory its just random. the same with pikachu learning iron tail and thunder having chance agaisnt rock type. Edited November 13, 201312 yr by Sakuraba Neku
November 13, 201312 yr Well lets see: Arcanine's family can because they are dogs and they can charge at people. Same goes for Rapidash's family. Typhlosion can charge at people too due to it being ferocious. It's evolutionary line can too since they are part of his line. Victini can since he is known to have moves that charge at people. Emboar's family is based off of a sumo wrestler, known to charge at people. Volcarona...I honestly have no idea.
November 13, 201312 yr Author Well lets see: Arcanine's family can because they are dogs and they can charge at people. Same goes for Rapidash's family. Typhlosion can charge at people too due to it being ferocious. It's evolutionary line can too since they are part of his line. Victini can since he is known to have moves that charge at people. Emboar's family is based off of a sumo wrestler, known to charge at people. Volcarona...I honestly have no idea. No offence intended, but I think that you are grasping at straws in the case of most of those explanations...
November 13, 201312 yr No offence intended, but I think that you are grasping at straws in the case of most of those explanations... In truth I were intending to say at all.
November 13, 201312 yr Well, in basic Japanese lore, there are four main elements: earth air fire and water, and every other element is considered a sub-element or another form of it, in a sense. Thunder falls under the Fire family since thunder can create fire if it strikes a flammable object(aka cause forest fires), and fire can be used to generate electricity by burning something which generates power, say coal, and that energy is often electric or thunder-like. Less powerful thunder, yes, but thunder. Fire was also used to light explosive arrows, which exploded and created a sound like a crack of thunder. I think one of these may be the reason.
November 13, 201312 yr Its Pokémon. When does logic apply to Pokémon? I would just have fun playing the game besides analyzing every little detail
November 13, 201312 yr Well both Fire and Electricity run on friction, and there's also that whole plasma thing that 'Twan mentioned. I'd say those are some solid theories...you know, for a Pokemon game. Fool. Fire doesn't run on friction, it's a chemical reaction. Electricity does not run on friction either.
November 13, 201312 yr Fool. Fire doesn't run on friction, it's a chemical reaction. Electricity does not run on friction either. The friction of rubbing two sticks together can cause them to ignite, and the friction between two pieces of cloth can give them a static charge so... Edited November 13, 201312 yr by Isamu_Kuno
November 13, 201312 yr The friction of rubbing two sticks together can cause them to ignite, and the friction between two pieces of cloth can give them a static charge so... Fool. The friction causes the sticks to get really hot, not set on fire. All that heat is energy. At a point, the stick can't handle all that energy. At that point, a chemical reaction occurs that will lead to a fire being started. Absolutely no friction is needed to cause a fire. Friction is just one way to start a process of getting to fire. You said Electricity, not a static charge. There are many forms of electricity. But if you insist on using a static charge, again, friction is just to start the process to get to a static charge and only one method. There are different ways to get a static charge and it doesn't depend on friction.
November 13, 201312 yr Author (And why a blue hedgehog can run at high speed...since when a hedgehog is faster than a Cheetah) Type coverage.....and not that many learns it....only some of the physical attackers.It's there so Fire Types can survive against water types Not to mention that,in many instances electricity can generate Fire sometimes Besides,you are asking for realism in a Pokemon game??? it's something common on RPG that some characters learns some moves that it can't normally learn Heck if you want logic defiance...in Final Fantasy 8...you can refine Tents into spells and turn cards into portable black holes Besides,really??now you notice some fire types learn electric moves?? Magmar can learn Thunder Punch since Gen 1 and some of Fire Pokemon can learn only physical Electric moves I'm sorry,but this is reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally nitpicking at this point Every single thread you've been making is just negative stuff about Pokemon as if you can never find something good about it.If you're playing Pokemon to find logic..why are you playing it then??? Want me to find every ridiculous thing about Sonic games?? Challenge accepted Knuckles looks nothing like an Echidna How can a hedgehog be a fast animal? Why does Eggman create machines with obvious weaknesses How can Shadow(A hedgehog mind you) be born from an alien(Black Doom) that looks nothing like a Hedgehog and doesn't have any hedgehog genetics Isn't Eggman just a fat version of Dr Wily? Why didn't Mephiles join with Iblis when he was RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM twice?? How can Eggman survive under Lava in Sonic3&Knuckles when his Eggmobile isn't surrounded by any kinds of sheild Isn't Super Sonic an obvious rip-off of the Super Sayian form from DBZ How can a human Princess fall in love with a mutant hedgehog with a giant head? Why isn't there any tidal waves caused after Eggman destroyed half of the moon in Sonic Adventure 2?? Since when Bats(Rouge) have humanistic body with boobs ......the list goes on I give up. Not only have you gone heavily off-topic, you also did not read my second post on this thread. Edited November 13, 201312 yr by Varnish
November 13, 201312 yr It is understandable in the case of moves that involve punching, but otherwise, I do not see how it makes much sense for Fire-Types to be able to learn Electric-Type moves, and vice-versa. This is your second post And again....what's the difference between Thunderpunch and Wild Charge....both are physical electric moves and can be learned by Fire Pokemon Again,this is really nitpicking at this point because every thread you've been making this far are just Pokemon rants as if nothing was good in it.You're asking realistic logic in a Monster Battle franchise.....and you're just noticing this now while it was there since Gen 1?? If you're playing Pokemon for scientific logic....you won't find it
November 13, 201312 yr Fool. The friction causes the sticks to get really hot, not set on fire. All that heat is energy. At a point, the stick can't handle all that energy. At that point, a chemical reaction occurs that will lead to a fire being started. Absolutely no friction is needed to cause a fire. Friction is just one way to start a process of getting to fire. You said Electricity, not a static charge. There are many forms of electricity. But if you insist on using a static charge, again, friction is just to start the process to get to a static charge and only one method. There are different ways to get a static charge and it doesn't depend on friction. I never said it was necessary, Only that it was possible. That's all there needs to justify it. The possibility. But, we're talking about Pokemon here, a game where Fairies can one-hit-KO Dragons and Water doesn't automatically freeze when hit with Ice. Edited November 13, 201312 yr by Isamu_Kuno
November 13, 201312 yr I never said it was necessary, Only that it was possible. That's all there needs to justify it. The possibility. But, we're talking about Pokemon here, a game where Fairies can one-hit-KO Dragons and Water doesn't automatically freeze when hit with Ice. Fool. You said this: Well both Fire and Electricity run on friction, and there's also that whole plasma thing that 'Twan mentioned. I'd say those are some solid theories...you know, for a Pokemon game. And I'm saying you're wrong. They don't run on friction.
November 13, 201312 yr Fool. You said this: Well both Fire and Electricity run on friction, and there's also that whole plasma thing that 'Twan mentioned. I'd say those are some solid theories...you know, for a Pokemon game. And I'm saying you're wrong. They don't run on friction. I'm not the one who said the run on it, that was Hero of Light XIV, I just said it was possible for it to trigger flames and electricity. Edited November 13, 201312 yr by Isamu_Kuno
November 13, 201312 yr I'm not the one who said the run on it, that was Hero of Light XIV, I just said it was possible for it to trigger flames and electricity. Fool. Aw man, then why you replying? What you said doesn't fit the argument then. I know it's possible, but we weren't discussing the possibility of it, we were discussing the reliance of it.
November 13, 201312 yr Because type coverage, duh. It's like asking "why is fairy weak against poison and steel???" - because they need something to be useful at/with!
November 13, 201312 yr Fool. The friction causes the sticks to get really hot, not set on fire. All that heat is energy. At a point, the stick can't handle all that energy. At that point, a chemical reaction occurs that will lead to a fire being started. Absolutely no friction is needed to cause a fire. Friction is just one way to start a process of getting to fire. You said Electricity, not a static charge. There are many forms of electricity. But if you insist on using a static charge, again, friction is just to start the process to get to a static charge and only one method. There are different ways to get a static charge and it doesn't depend on friction. True, they aren't the ONLY ways to start either fire or electricity, but that doesn't rule them out. We're just looking for ways that they COULD be related to each other, and friction seems to work just fine. It's either that or mentioning how Fire-benders in Avatar can bend Lightning as well, but that doesn't sound relevant or "sciencey" enough. Just let me have this okay? I feel like this is the only Pokemon forum on this website that I can actually contribute to.
November 14, 201312 yr Fool. Aw man, then why you replying? What you said doesn't fit the argument then. I know it's possible, but we weren't discussing the possibility of it, we were discussing the reliance of it. Because the possible relation of fire, electricity and friction may explain why fire types van use certain electric type moves and vice-versa.Just like how Charizard can learn Solar Beam because, even though it's a grass-type move it uses solar energy and the sun is a big ball of fire. Edited November 14, 201312 yr by Isamu_Kuno
November 14, 201312 yr Because the possible relation of fire, electricity and friction may explain why fire types van use certain electric type moves and vice-versa.Just like how Charizard can learn Solar Beam because, even though it's a grass-type move it uses solar energy and the sun is a big ball of fire. Fool. I'm not saying they aren't explanations, the guy said they run on friction, and I'm saying they don't.
Why is it that so many Fire-Type Pokémon can learn the move Wild Charge? Since when does fire conduct electricity?
Edited by Varnish