MyDixieRect 2,061 Posted July 25, 2013 Look! Pretty purple! Now I love KH more than I love Dracozombie *cough* and I love the Xehanort saga. It's amazing, one of the best stories out there, has given me all kinds of feels and damn it all, I wouldn't be here without it. But enough of all at, let's gaze into the future and reflect some along the way too: First of all gameplay. Gameplay always improves over time so naturally the next saga will have better gameplay. Not much to say here. Story: Throughout the KH series there have been many changes to the story before during and after development. Some nicely placed and improve the story and some which just contradict previous events and make us go "Nomura...you dun goofed" (Donald y u no remember Yen Sid's tower? ;_. From the first game where Ansem was obviously just tossed in for complexity (they tried to work round this by adding him at the beginning to seem foreshadowy but yeah) to the most recent game where time travel (to some) was plucked straight out of Nomura's ass, the story was made up as they went along and it shows. Nomura's announced a new saga, the first game of which we won't see for years, so this time round it's likely we'll get a more coherent story that's been better planned out. On top of that unless Final Fantasy XVI or XVII will hold up KH development to this extent again, Nomura won't have to add more side/bridge games than actual numbered titles nor will he have to adhere to/continue with a once a year promise that made some of the portable games suffer. Content: New console generation breeds more room for more content. Now we can find that one extra dalmatian from the sequel Yeah...that's it. It's a bit long, sorry, but if you read it then thank you! 5 HarLea Quinn, waytothexdawnx, Rob and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panosgate7 52 Posted July 25, 2013 I think the story had so many mistakes because KH1 wasn't even supposed to have a sequel and that means that Nomura planned everything for the next game as they were advancing through development of the game they were developing at the time!!! I don't think he will make the same mistake twice!!! 2 MyDixieRect and _The Door To Light_ reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Velvet Scarlatina 607 Posted July 25, 2013 (Donald y u no remember Yen Sid's tower? ;_; ) Just saying, but they did just wake up from recovering their memories from the previous game, so maybe not everything kicked in straight away. This isn't directly said, but that's how I'm able to forgive it, whether this is true or not. 2 RoxSox and Tigerruss reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panosgate7 52 Posted July 25, 2013 Just saying, but they did just wake up from recovering their memories from the previous game, so maybe not everything kicked in straight away. This isn't directly said, but that's how I'm able to forgive it, whether this is true or not. Exactly what I thought to forgive it but, unfortunately, this isn't the only mistake!!! 1 MyDixieRect reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MyDixieRect 2,061 Posted July 25, 2013 (edited) Just saying, but they did just wake up from recovering their memories from the previous game, so maybe not everything kicked in straight away. This isn't directly said, but that's how I'm able to forgive it, whether this is true or not.Nomura's excuse was "Yen Sid redecorated *wry laughter*" you'd think he'd have gone with the obvious answer...but sadly not. So yeah, pretty silly mistake on his part Edited July 25, 2013 by Winner's Proof 3 Kinode, Rob and HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panosgate7 52 Posted July 25, 2013 Nomura's excuse was "Yen Sid redecorated *wry laughter*" you'd think he'd have gone with the obvious answer...but sadly not. So yeah, pretty silly mistake on his part That's not even funny! 1 Kinode reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted July 25, 2013 I agree with you Winner although despite Nomura' s mistakes I still greatly enjoyed this saga ..I'm sure i'll enjoy the next saga too 4 Demyx., _The Door To Light_, MyDixieRect and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MyDixieRect 2,061 Posted July 25, 2013 I agree with you Winner although despite Nomura' s mistakes I still greatly enjoyed this saga ..I'm sure i'll enjoy the next saga too I agree with you agreeing with me. I agree with you too, no doubt! He made some mistakes but Kingdom Hearts isn't my fav series for nothing. 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted July 25, 2013 I agree with you agreeing with me. I agree with you too, no doubt! He made some mistakes but Kingdom Hearts isn't my fav series for nothing. ahahahaha exactly my friend 2 Demyx. and MyDixieRect reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Connected 978 Posted July 25, 2013 The present sage is just to mashy. I hope the will do this better in the new saga Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dracozombie 4,554 Posted July 25, 2013 I guess that's a positive way of thinking about it. I'm still concerned about the series overstaying its welcome, but it's certainly possible Nomura could learn from some of his mistakes and plan things out a bit better. Not to say I didn't like this saga (I'm here, aren't I?), but there were better ways of actually telling the story. But I'm afraid if you like me more than Kingdom Hearts, you're doing something wrong. Tsk tsk. Kingdom Hearts should be your waifu. 1 143436611Xxcc reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoxSox 3,593 Posted July 25, 2013 I know it doesn't have much to do with the topic, but I can push the "Yen Sid lives HERE?" with the fact that... it had been at least 10 years since Donald and Goofy had been there. I wouldn't necessarily immediately recognize a place that I hadn't been to for a decade. 1 Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MyDixieRect 2,061 Posted July 25, 2013 I guess that's a positive way of thinking about it. I'm still concerned about the series overstaying its welcome, but it's certainly possible Nomura could learn from some of his mistakes and plan things out a bit better. Not to say I didn't like this saga (I'm here, aren't I?), but there were better ways of actually telling the story. But I'm afraid if you like me more than Kingdom Hearts, you're doing something wrong. Tsk tsk. Kingdom Hearts should be your waifu.Believe me, if I could undigitilize Larxene and bring her into the real world she would be watashi no waifu in no time! The sad fact that it's nothing but a pipe dream is what keeps the Winner Zombie ship afloat (unless you'd be fine with bigamy ) I know it doesn't have much to do with the topic, but I can push the "Yen Sid lives HERE?" with the fact that... it had been at least 10 years since Donald and Goofy had been there. I wouldn't necessarily immediately recognize a place that I hadn't been to for a decade.Yeah I see what you mean but...it's a magical tower with a wizard at the top, isolated from all else on a lonely island, I mean, who'd forget that? The stairs alone while they were climbing up it should reminded Donald that he'd been there before if nothing else did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 5,715 Posted July 25, 2013 Well, the next saga won't have Xehanort, so it's already looking up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MyDixieRect 2,061 Posted July 25, 2013 Well, the next saga won't have Xehanort, so it's already looking up.Lol. What's wrong with Xehanort? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 5,715 Posted July 26, 2013 Lol. What's wrong with Xehanort? I've always found him really boring. His motivations aren't that great, he has no emotion, and his personality is practically nonexistent. Worse, he's pretty much a Gary Stu, and the success rate of his plans are bogus in spite of their ridiculously elaborate design. There's never any sense that he cares about what's going on: I mean, in DDD, he appears while resting his head on his hand. If the villain has no emotional response to what is going on, how can I be expected to? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_The Door To Light_ 1,507 Posted July 26, 2013 There's always room for improvement, and that goes for anything. I greatly enjoyed this saga, I'm sure the next will be great as well. Since, as you mentioned, Nomura will probably plan it out better, while still adding his notable plot-twists/Nomura-logic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoxSox 3,593 Posted July 26, 2013 Yeah I see what you mean but...it's a magical tower with a wizard at the top, isolated from all else on a lonely island, I mean, who'd forget that? The stairs alone while they were climbing up it should reminded Donald that he'd been there before if nothing else did. Well Donald only showed shock when he on the exterior. "Yen Sid lives HERE?", and then he charges into the building and then there isn't any other real mention of surprise on his part. In my head canon, that says "Well I forgot before... but now I recognize the building after seeing it from the inside again. I can't let Sora know what happened here ten years ago. It's up to the King to decide when he should know." 1 Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerruss 576 Posted July 26, 2013 Well Donald only showed shock when he on the exterior. "Yen Sid lives HERE?", and then he charges into the building and then there isn't any other real mention of surprise on his part. In my head canon, that says "Well I forgot before... but now I recognize the building after seeing it from the inside again. I can't let Sora know what happened here ten years ago. It's up to the King to decide when he should know." Nomura, or writers, must love the fan's ability to fix issues with their own personal head canons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoxSox 3,593 Posted July 26, 2013 Nomura, or writers, must love the fan's ability to fix issues with their own personal head canons. Well if in your mind you can come up with an explanation that makes sense, then what's stopping it from being a valid explanation? If we, the fans, can explain it somehow, then within the story of the game, it can be explained. 2 Demyx. and Tigerruss reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SHAZOW 269 Posted July 26, 2013 The next saga better than the first? But nothing is better than the origional (well most of the time the statement is true :b). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terraforce777 19 Posted July 26, 2013 Exactly what I thought to forgive it but, unfortunately, this isn't the only mistake!!!What other mistakes are there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PrinceNoctis 1,011 Posted July 26, 2013 For me, the series will end with KH3 and it really saddens me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panosgate7 52 Posted July 26, 2013 What other mistakes are there? I can't remember right now but I have definetely seen more mistakes like the one they made with Donald but I don't really mind, I just mentioned there were some mistakes!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XxCobaltxX 321 Posted July 26, 2013 I agree with you Winner although despite Nomura' s mistakes I still greatly enjoyed this saga ..I'm sure i'll enjoy the next saga too i mean he's only human y'know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites