Genderqueers

[Koko 3,944]

I finally decided to make this thread after noticing some people are extremely uninformed about this. It's okay though, if you are rude and misgender those who don't identify as male/female, you're either very ignorant or just an ass. I'm here to fix the ignorant part.

Now genderqueers are those who don't identify strictly as any gender in the binary.

Some are both genders; Bigender

Some are one gender sometimes and the other gender sometimes (and depending, sometimes they're neither gender); Genderfluid

Some are just neither gender; Agender

There are individuals who identify as third gender/other-gender as well (these are people who dont place a name on their gender).

And there is also Two-Spirit which is strictly referring to Native Americans who fulfilled both gender roles. As you can see, identifying out of the gender binary is not something that just happened recently, Native Americans had been doing it long before the Europeans came along and forced their own gender roles on them.

 

Now while genderqueer people are not trans, they do fall under the trans* umbrella. Some will ask you to use gender neutral pronouns such as they/them/their! Some ask for ze/zir, ze/hir, ey/eir/em! If someone asks you to refer to them a certain way, you should! It's very rude to misgender anyone! As well, some genderqueers/nonbinaries will just flip flop when it comes to pronouns. Some days they like she/her, others they want he/him. And there are some who don't care what pronouns you use! If you're unsure of the pronouns to use, asking is always best. Misgendering is a big no! If you wouldn't misgender someone who's a trans*man or a trans*woman then don't misgender a nonbinary! And if you would misgender a trans*man/trans*woman, you're a piece of crap.

 

Now, let's talk about ~biology~. Everything you learned about what makes someone female and someone male is p much socially constructed. Therefore, just forget about it. It says that people with XX chromosomes, feminine characteristics, high estrogen levels and 'female' genitalia is a woman and people with XY chromosomes, masculine characteristics, high testostorone levels and 'male' genitalia is male!! Guess what!! A lot of people don't fall under these conditions! This logic also excludes intersex individuals and guess what, yes intersex people exist!!! Basically what I'm trying to say, don't bring this up and start talking about "biological gender/sex" and "but you're really a..." and "but if you have a penis/vagina" and shit like that. It's unneeded and uncalled for and biology=/=sex=/=gender. It doesn't matter what a person looks like, what genitalia they have, what chromosomes they have, the only thing that matters is what they identify as!

 

Some of you may have taught that you can use the phrase "biological sex" is okay when talking about trans* people. I'm here to correct that. Some trans* individuals are okay with it! No biggie. But others don't like it! Which is why I greatly urge the usage of FAAB/DFAB and MAAB/DMAB. These stand for Female Assigned At Birth/Designated Female At Birth and Male Assigned At Birth/Designated Male At Birth. Since our sex/gender is chosen for us, we use the words assigned/designated because hey, we didn't pick that! For example, I identify as genderqueer and I'm FAAB.

 

Now let's move on to appearance. Some of you may think that all genderqueer people mix both masculine/feminine attributes or look androgynous  Guess what! Nope! Some do! Some don't! Some are more feminine! Others masculine! Some are androgynous! Others are not! It varies! Does that invalidate their gender identity? Nope!

 

And now, sexuality. Someone who is genderqueer can be attracted to anyone, just as people identify as male/female can. Their gender identity does not influence their sexuality.

 

Lastly, why is someone genderqueer? Who the firetruck cares! IT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS. They simply feel as if their gender is not part of the gender binary and that is okay. Not because they want to be cool, not because they're unhappy with their gender, they're just genderqueer.

 

I'm not sure what I'm leaving out but if you have any questions, feel free to ask!

 

AND WOW PEOPLE WHO IDENTIFY AS GENDERQUEER!!

 

 

 

• Chris Pureka, an American folk music singer-songwriter, came out publicly as genderqueer in a 2005 interview with Off Our Backs.^[15]
• Rae Spoon, a Canadian singer-songwriter, identified as a trans man for many years before adopting a gender-neutral identity in 2012.
• Jiz Lee, a pornographic actor, reported in a personal blog post that they became more candid about being genderqueer at about age 29.^[16]
• Andrej Pejic, an Australian fashion model, does not use the term genderqueer, but has publicly stated that they identify as neither male nor female.^[17][18]
• Kate Bornstein, an American gender theorist, transsexual person, and author of Gender Outlaw: On Men, Women and the Rest of Us (a book about being dissatisfied with binary models of gender) identifies as neither male nor female.

 

 

Edited March 18, 2013 by Koko

[FireRubies1 1,325]

Great and informative like always. I've thought of this lately... and I guess I could consider myself genderqueer

I don't really fit into the male gender based on mannerisms and such, but I don't always think I'm female

No one has addressed me as female

but, I don't really care either way

Edited March 18, 2013 by Think Pink

[Think Pink 1,967]

I actually have a question: 

If you don't know which someone prefers (they/their/them or one of the other 2) which is the safe one to use? Like would someone be offended if you used they/their/them if you didn't realize they preferred one of the other options? 

[Koko 3,944]

I actually have a question: 

If you don't know which someone prefers (they/their/them or one of the other 2) which is the safe one to use? Like would someone be offended if you used they/their/them if you didn't realize they preferred one of the other options? 

like i said, always ask! most people in general will appreciate you taking the time to ask. 

Edited March 18, 2013 by Koko

[Marth 338]

Never knew any of this until now... maybe I should think more about what I say to those who are self-gender-consious...

[Number XV 490]

Why thank you Koko. I'm surprised I actually did enough research to know most of this.

[Oishii 3,987]

I actually knew most of this already because there's a linguist at my college who researches language in gender and I had a lecture with her once.  You have the basics of it laid out very nicely.  Good job.

[Obi-wan 411]

Just like I was taught. Hell I don't care what you are as long as you are respectful, kind, and somewhat sane. If you manage that I don't care if you are she/he/it or any of that nonsense. Seriously it sucks that people are labeled for some things they do. Don't really matter what they do. You should really focus on who they are and the way they act.

Edited March 18, 2013 by Rixku

[Koko 3,944]

Just like I was taught. Hell I don't care what you are as long as you are respectful, kind, and somewhat sane. If you manage that I don't care if you are she/he/it or any of that nonsense. Seriously it sucks that people are labeled for some things they do. Don't really matter what they do. You should really focus on who they are and the way they act.

a lot of people dont appreciate being called it.

some do, but in my experience, its very dehumanizing. 

[Obi-wan 411]

a lot of people dont appreciate being called it.some do, but in my experience, its very dehumanizing. 

I know. Google is editing the other words I put so I decided to go with what it liked. Got figure out a way to get rid of spell check on the IPad.