Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) Okay, whenever I post on a thread relating to the Guardians of Light or the plot of KH3 I always find myself posting a much shorter version of this theory. So I figured it would be much easier to just make topic for it and put a link on my responses. This way I can also put much more detail then I would feel comfortable putting in a regular post. Here I will explain what I think some of the events in KH3 will be. I would like you to tell me what you think of it as well as post you're own theories. Well, here I go. Fist I think KH3 will have four scenarios, during the first three of which we will control a different member of the DI trio. In the fourth we will control Sora again. However unlike BbS I think these scenarios will be sequential rather than parallel. Scenario 1 Kairi and Lea travel to the Realm of Darkness to retrieve Aqua. These two are perfect for this mission as Lea can still open Corridors of Darkness while Kairi, being a Princess of Heart will be unaffected by prolonged exposure and, perhaps, be able to offer Lea some protection as well. This could also provide the potential for some very interesting story line and character development for Kairi as she will have to travel with one of her many previous abductors. As for Worlds in the RoD, as we saw in "A Fragmentary Passage" when a world is swallowed by darkness it's ruins appear in the RoD. While the Worlds seemingly returned when Sora defeated Ansem SoD, as we learned in DDD some worlds, more than we visited, never fully awakened so it's possible that some worlds were never revived at all. Kairi and Lea could travel to these ruined worlds while searching for Aqua. Scenario 2 After Aqua is retrieved she can assist Sora, Donald and Goofy in traveling through Castle Oblivion to find and revive Ven. Sora is necessary for this task as he holds Ven's heart within him, and it seems that in every numbered title he's traveling with Donald and Goofy so that's why I put them with him here. When they find Ven and his heart leaves Sora's body it could result in Roxas returning, similar to how Namine was created. Several scenes in DDD, in addition to the opening, hint at Roxas coming back, like Sora expressing his wish for Roxas to be his own person and the revelation that Nobodies can develop their own hearts making them no different from whole people. In fact the whole reason Lea wanted to become a Keyblade Wielder in the first place is so that he could bring Roxas back while presumably at the same time not harming Sora. Also in both KHII and DDD members of both incarnations of Organization XIII state how much better of a wielder Roxas was compared to Sora. This could be a hint that Roxas is indeed the Seventh Guardian. There are some holes in this theory however, the largest of which is the fact that for Roxas to return Sora's body would need to be used to crate him, which means that Sora would have to become a Heartless and Nomura has already stated that Anti-Form is the closest he ever gets to this happening again. If Ven's heart is removed safely, without affecting Sora's, the latter will not become a Heartless, his body will not vanish and Roxas will not return. However if Sora's body does vanish, not only would it cheapen his sacrifice in the first game it would also go completely against Nomura's previous statement Scenario 3. After everyone else reunites, Riku's and Mickey's mission will be to rescue Terra from the Seekers of Darkness. Riku is especially well equipped to handle this job as he has gone through a similar experience having been possessed by Ansem SoD and with Sora's, and later Mickey's, help managed to break free of his evil influence as well as having acquired the power to dive into other peoples hearts. I believe it would also be beneficial to have saved Aqua and Ven beforehand as it was Terra's desire to protect them that allowed MX to possess him in the first place. This same desire could help him break free. Final Scenario The Seven Guardians of Light and their allies will confront the Thirteen Seekers of Darkness and loose. the world will be enveloped in darkness but the resulting backlash destroys Xehanort and his Seekers. the worlds fall into the RoD and the game ends. Then in KH IV Sora and the others, having fallen into the RoD visit the fallen worlds seeking Kingdom Hearts to release the Light and restore the worlds. On an interesting side note if Xion and Namine where also to return and fight alongside the others it would be 13 against 13 Sora, Riku, Kairi, Roxas, Lea, Xion, Terra, Aqua, Ven, Mickey, Donald, Goofy, and Namine vs. the New Organization XIII. Edited July 29, 2014 by Isamu_Kuno 2 Deadpool and RikuFangirl2008 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_eternal_nothing 586 Posted January 20, 2013 yes but riku is the one who learned to dive into other peopes dreams/minds so i think he will have to help wake up Ven but i like your thought process Okay, whenever I post on a thread relating to the Guardians of Light or the plot of KH3 I always find myself posting a much shorter version of this theory. So I figured it would be much easier to just topic for it and put a link on my responses. This way I can also put much more detail then I would feel comfortable putting in a regular post. Here I will explain what I think some of the events in KH3 will be. I would like you to tell me what you think of it as well as post you're own theories. Well, here I go. Fist I think KH3 will have four scenarios, during the first three of which we will control a different member of the DI trio. In the fourth we will control Sora again. However unlike BbS I think these scenarios will be sequential rather than parallel. Scenario 1 Kairi and Lea travel to the Realm of Darkness to retrieve Aqua. These two are perfect for this mission as Lea can still open Corridors of Darkness while Kairi, being a Princess of Heart will be unaffected by prolonged exposure and, perhaps, be able to offer Lea some protection as well. This could also provide the potential for some very interesting story line and character development for Kairi as she will have to travel with one of her many previous abductors. As for Worlds in the RoD, as we saw in "A Fragmentary Passage" when a world is swallowed by darkness it's ruins appear in the RoD. While the Worlds seemingly returned when Sora defeated Ansem SoD, as we learned in DDD some worlds, more than we visited, never fully awakened so it's possible that some worlds were never revived at all. Kairi and Lea could travel to these ruined worlds while searching for Aqua. Scenario 2 After Aqua is retrieved she can assist Sora, Donald an Goofy in traveling through Castle Oblivion to find and revive Ven. Sora is necessary for this task as he holds Ven's heart within him, and it seems that in every numbered title he's traveling with Donald and Goofy so that's why I put them with him here. When they find Ven and his heart leaves Sora's body it could result in Roxas returning, similar to how Namine was created. Several scenes in DDD, in addition to the opening, hint at Roxas coming back, like Sora expressing his wish for Roxas to be his own person and the revelation that Nobodies can develop their own hearts making them no different from whole people. Also in both KHII and DDD members of both incarnations of Organization XIII state how much better of a wielder Roxas was compared to Sora. This could be a hint that Roxas is indeed the Seventh Guardian. There are some holes in this theory however, the largest of which is the fact that for Roxas to return Sora's body would need to be used to crate him, which means that Sora would have to become a Heartless and Nomura has already stated that Anti-Form is the closest he ever gets to this happening again. If Ven's heart is removed safely, without affecting Sora's, the latter will not become a Heartless, his body will not vanish and Roxas will not return. However if Sora's body does vanish, not only would it cheapen his sacrifice in the first game it would also go completely against Nomura's previous statement Scenario 3. After everyone else reunites, Riku's and Mickey's mission will be to rescue Terra from the Seekers of Darkness. Riku is especially well equipped to handle this job as he has gone through a similar experience having been possessed by Ansem SoD and with Sora's, and later Mickey's, help managed to break free of his evil influence as well as having acquired the power to dive into other peoples hearts. I believe it would also be beneficial to have saved Aqua and Ven beforehand as it was Terra's desire to protect them that allowed MX to possess him in the first place. This same desire could help him break free. Final Scenario The Seven Guardians of Light and their allies will confront the Thirteen Seekers of Darkness and defeat the threat of Master Xehanort once and for all. On an interesting side note if Xion and Namine where also to return and fight alongside the others it would be 13 against 13 Sora, Riku, Kairi, Roxas, Lea, Xion, Terra, Aqua, Ven, Mickey, Donald, Goofy, and Namine vs. the New Organization XIII. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HikariYami 354 Posted January 20, 2013 Okay, whenever I post on a thread relating to the Guardians of Light or the plot of KH3 I always find myself posting a much shorter version of this theory. So I figured it would be much easier to just topic for it and put a link on my responses. This way I can also put much more detail then I would feel comfortable putting in a regular post. Here I will explain what I think some of the events in KH3 will be. I would like you to tell me what you think of it as well as post you're own theories. Well, here I go. Fist I think KH3 will have four scenarios, during the first three of which we will control a different member of the DI trio. In the fourth we will control Sora again. However unlike BbS I think these scenarios will be sequential rather than parallel. Scenario 1 Kairi and Lea travel to the Realm of Darkness to retrieve Aqua. These two are perfect for this mission as Lea can still open Corridors of Darkness while Kairi, being a Princess of Heart will be unaffected by prolonged exposure and, perhaps, be able to offer Lea some protection as well. This could also provide the potential for some very interesting story line and character development for Kairi as she will have to travel with one of her many previous abductors. As for Worlds in the RoD, as we saw in "A Fragmentary Passage" when a world is swallowed by darkness it's ruins appear in the RoD. While the Worlds seemingly returned when Sora defeated Ansem SoD, as we learned in DDD some worlds, more than we visited, never fully awakened so it's possible that some worlds were never revived at all. Kairi and Lea could travel to these ruined worlds while searching for Aqua. Scenario 2 After Aqua is retrieved she can assist Sora, Donald an Goofy in traveling through Castle Oblivion to find and revive Ven. Sora is necessary for this task as he holds Ven's heart within him, and it seems that in every numbered title he's traveling with Donald and Goofy so that's why I put them with him here. When they find Ven and his heart leaves Sora's body it could result in Roxas returning, similar to how Namine was created. Several scenes in DDD, in addition to the opening, hint at Roxas coming back, like Sora expressing his wish for Roxas to be his own person and the revelation that Nobodies can develop their own hearts making them no different from whole people. Also in both KHII and DDD members of both incarnations of Organization XIII state how much better of a wielder Roxas was compared to Sora. This could be a hint that Roxas is indeed the Seventh Guardian. There are some holes in this theory however, the largest of which is the fact that for Roxas to return Sora's body would need to be used to crate him, which means that Sora would have to become a Heartless and Nomura has already stated that Anti-Form is the closest he ever gets to this happening again. If Ven's heart is removed safely, without affecting Sora's, the latter will not become a Heartless, his body will not vanish and Roxas will not return. However if Sora's body does vanish, not only would it cheapen his sacrifice in the first game it would also go completely against Nomura's previous statement Scenario 3. After everyone else reunites, Riku's and Mickey's mission will be to rescue Terra from the Seekers of Darkness. Riku is especially well equipped to handle this job as he has gone through a similar experience having been possessed by Ansem SoD and with Sora's, and later Mickey's, help managed to break free of his evil influence as well as having acquired the power to dive into other peoples hearts. I believe it would also be beneficial to have saved Aqua and Ven beforehand as it was Terra's desire to protect them that allowed MX to possess him in the first place. This same desire could help him break free. Final Scenario The Seven Guardians of Light and their allies will confront the Thirteen Seekers of Darkness and defeat the threat of Master Xehanort once and for all. On an interesting side note if Xion and Namine where also to return and fight alongside the others it would be 13 against 13 Sora, Riku, Kairi, Roxas, Lea, Xion, Terra, Aqua, Ven, Mickey, Donald, Goofy, and Namine vs. the New Organization XIII. Yay! Someone who actually agree/thinks that Roxas will be the last/seventh/ one of the lights. I am thinking that they probably will have the playing mode like FFXIII. You know switching playable characters. But, yeah, that is basically how it will go down with maybe a plot twist. However Riku has to dive into Sora's heart since that is his new ability as a master. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) I don't really think they need Riku for Ven. All they need is somebody with a Keyblade of Peoples Hearts to safely remove Ven's heart from Sora's and guide it back to his body. Also Sora has this power as well. Yen Sid said they both deserve title, meaning they both gained the ability. The only reason both weren't made Masters is because Riku went above and beyond by using that power to dive into Sora's heart. The title of Keyblade Master is just that, a title. Having the title itself doesn't automatically give you a new power. True, Aqua was able to reconfigure the Land of Departure into Castle Oblivion whereas Terra and Ven could not but that's because Master Eraqus only taught her the ability after she passed the Mark of Mastery. Sora and Riku both gained the power to enter sleeping hearts before the one who would receive the title was announced. At least that's how I took it, Edited January 20, 2013 by Sora_Kuno 1 Ultimus Grid reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruran 481 Posted January 20, 2013 I really hope we don't get mass scenarios for KH3...I'm not a fan of them. At most I'd tolerate a short scenario akin to Reverse/Rebirth and Roxas's at the beginning of KH2. Scenario 1: I see it get suggested a lot that Kairi should go to the RoD to rescue Aqua because she's a PoH but I think this is a really, really, REALLY terrible idea. Because she's a PoH. The over all idea of purposely having Kairi do something dangerous is a bad idea for multiple reasons. I take her beginning her training as a means to have her protect herself in the case she gets into a sticky situation rather than have her go on missions. I'm not sure about the some worlds not returning thing. I took it that they all returned or got stuck in the RoS but I'm sketchy on some of 3D's details. Scenario 2: Ansem the Wise left data inside Sora's heart that's supposed to be the secret of reviving some of the ones in torment, I take it it directly relates to Roxas, Namine, and Xion. With that said I don't think Roxas being revived in that way will quite work. For all intensive purposes he's still Sora's Nobody and being born in that manner would make him physically less stable. Namine flicked in and out of existence after being near Kairi for too long and Roxas disappeared into Sora I take it by just standing near him as well so I don't think that method is ideal. Scenario 3: No disputes here despite it being Riku and Mickey's mission. I think they'll certainly aid though. Final Scenario: No disputes here either since that is pretty apparent, lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elijah Gravenhorst 480 Posted January 20, 2013 I think that this kind of thing is quite possible. The thing that I am almost certain of is the massive clash in the end invloving pretty much everyone. That is going to be awesome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tysonrss 38 Posted January 20, 2013 Yay! Someone who actually agree/thinks that Roxas will be the last/seventh/ one of the lights. I am thinking that they probably will have the playing mode like FFXIII. You know switching playable characters. But, yeah, that is basically how it will go down with maybe a plot twist. However Riku has to dive into Sora's heart since that is his new ability as a master. The gameplay for KH3 was said to be similar to Final Fantasy XIII Versus. That said. It makes sense for Kairi to rescue Aqua as they have a better connection than Riku/Sora has with her. (funny how Aqua was the only one to meet all 3). As for one of the guardians, I think that would be Roxas and Kairi. Roxas' revival since assured since we have scenes in 3D hinting that ROxas would return, like Lea keeping his promise to bring him back. Our 7 guardians, Sora, Riku, Kairi, Mickey, Lea, Roxas and then....Aqua? Or maybe it's Ven, ROxas, Aqua, Sora, Riku Mickey and Kairi, that seems more pluasible. Sorry but we got 3 years at the very least to assume. It's hard knowing for sure who all 7 Guardians would be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomHearts3 2,591 Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) Where has it been said in KH3D that Roxas was a better wielder than Sora? All I remember was that he was a worthy candidate and punched out early. I have thought this to myself before and thought I should share this: it's best not to assume any KH3 plots because anyone who does will most likely be wrong since Nomura is unpredictable. Worlds, battle system, etc is fine to assume in my eyes. Edited January 20, 2013 by KingdomHearts3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aaronarrgh 41 Posted January 20, 2013 Where has it been said in KH3D that Roxas was a better wielder than Sora? All I remember was that he was a worthy candidate and punched out early. I have thought this to myself before and thought I shoul share this: it's best not to assume any KH3 plots because anyone who does will most likely be wrong since Nomura is unpredictable. Worlds, battle system, etc is fine to assume in my eyes. I was thinking the same thing. I find it hard to believe and unconvincing that the nobody would be more skilled than the actual somebody. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Sideris 1,551 Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) Interesting story you have there . But wouldn't it be better to just wait and not getting ourselves more and more curious . Anyways i partly agree with your story because i think that Terra and Aqua won't come back . And as a result Ven won't come back ,too.....It's just my opinion. Edited January 20, 2013 by Nikos Sideris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King.Mickey 359 Posted January 20, 2013 I don't really think they need Riku for Ven. All they need is somebody with a Keyblade of Peoples Hearts to safely remove Ven's heart from Sora's and guide it back to his body. Also Sora has this power as well. Yen Sid said they both deserve title, meaning they both gained the ability. The only reason both weren't made Masters is because Riku went above and beyond by using that power to dive into Sora's heart. The title of Keyblade Master is just that, a title. Having the title itself doesn't automatically give you a new power. True, Aqua was able to reconfigure the Land of Departure into Castle Oblivion whereas Terra and Ven could not but that's because Master Eraqus only taught her the ability after she passed the Mark of Mastery. Sora and Riku both gained the power to enter sleeping hearts before the one who would receive the title was announced. At least that's how I took it,No, only Riku got that power. It literally even says so specifically... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) No, only Riku got that power. It literally even says so specifically... Where? Link me to the scene where it says that. I want to do some fact checking. If I'm wrong I'll gladly retract my earlier statement. I don't want my theory to be based on erroneous information. Interesting story you have there . But wouldn't it be better to just wait and not getting ourselves more and more curious . Anyways i partly agree with your story because i think that Terra and Aqua won't come back . And as a result Ven won't come back ,too.....It's just my opinion. You're forgetting about the scene in Re:coded where Data Namine tells Mickey and Data Sora that "A day will come when they must rise from their sleep, and when that happens the only one who can save them will be Sora." Besides, Ven and Aqua at least are two of the Guardians of Light. They need to come back to help defeat Xehanort. And theorizing about and discussing the events is part of the fun of waiting for a new game. Where has it been said in KH3D that Roxas was a better wielder than Sora? All I remember was that he was a worthy candidate and punched out early. I have thought this to myself before and thought I should share this: it's best not to assume any KH3 plots because anyone who does will most likely be wrong since Nomura is unpredictable. Worlds, battle system, etc is fine to assume in my eyes. Wouldn't it make sense for Roxas to be a more worthy candidate because he's a better fighter? Very few in things Kingdom Hearts are ever explicitly stated, most details are meant to be inferred by the players. I'm not assuming, I'm theorizing. These are just educated guesses based on what we know and the direction the series seems to be taking. If I'm wrong I wont be upset, because you're right, we don't know what Nomura's going to do. But that shouldn't stop us from making our own theories. In fact Nomura himself has stated multiple times that he wants the players to use their imaginations for future of the series. I was thinking the same thing. I find it hard to believe and unconvincing that the nobody would be more skilled than the actual somebody. That may be true for most Nobodies, but Roxas is the Nobody of two people Sora and Ven. Besides in DDD we learned that Nobodies can develop hearts so in reality they are somebodies The whole "Nobodies can never become somebodies" thing was a lie perpetrated by Xemnas to make the members of the Organization easier to manipulate. Nobodies really don't exist, because the ones who thought they were Nobodies actually were somebodies. In short, there is no such thing as a Nobody. Edited April 15, 2014 by Isamu_Kuno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruran 481 Posted January 20, 2013 Wouldn't it make sense for Roxas to be a more worthy candidate because he's a better fighter? Very few in things Kingdom Hearts are ever explicitly stated, most details are meant to be inferred by the players. I'm not assuming, I'm theorizing. These are just educated guesses based on what we know and the direction the series seems to be taking. If I'm wrong I wont be upset, because you're right, we don't know what Nomura's going to do. But that shouldn't stop us from making our own theories. In fact Nomura himself has stated multiple times that he wants the players to use their imaginations for future of the series. Aside from being strong Xehanort needs candidates that are completely submissive so that the seeding can work properly. When it was said that Roxas was a worthy candidate I took it more as meaning that his unusual state made him ideal for seeding. As the characters liked to say Roxas was a "zombie" because unlike most Nobodies he had no memories, no sense of self, and therefor no defense. Until later. Him being exceptionally strong was more of a bonus to him being an easy puppet at one time. Basically Roxas being complemented on being a worthy candidate just means he's being called brainless. As far as Sora and Roxas strength goes I place them about them same with Sora being a little stronger. Roxas technically had more time with the Keyblade but Sora has the "My Friends Are My Power!" cheat code. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aaronarrgh 41 Posted January 21, 2013 Aside from being strong Xehanort needs candidates that are completely submissive so that the seeding can work properly. When it was said that Roxas was a worthy candidate I took it more as meaning that his unusual state made him ideal for seeding. As the characters liked to say Roxas was a "zombie" because unlike most Nobodies he had no memories, no sense of self, and therefor no defense. Until later. Him being exceptionally strong was more of a bonus to him being an easy puppet at one time. Basically Roxas being complemented on being a worthy candidate just means he's being called brainless. As far as Sora and Roxas strength goes I place them about them same with Sora being a little stronger. Roxas technically had more time with the Keyblade but Sora has the "My Friends Are My Power!" cheat code. Can someone elaborate what that specifically means (the highlighted part)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruran 481 Posted January 21, 2013 Can someone elaborate what that specifically means (the highlighted part)? Sora's a hacker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) Can someone elaborate what that specifically means (the highlighted part)? Basically, when Sora says "My friends are my power" he becomes unbeatable (story wise). It's pretty much equivalent to story-driven God-modding. Edited January 21, 2013 by Sora_Kuno 1 Kab4002 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smithee 327 Posted January 21, 2013 Aside from being strong Xehanort needs candidates that are completely submissive so that the seeding can work properly. When it was said that Roxas was a worthy candidate I took it more as meaning that his unusual state made him ideal for seeding. As the characters liked to say Roxas was a "zombie" because unlike most Nobodies he had no memories, no sense of self, and therefor no defense. Until later. Him being exceptionally strong was more of a bonus to him being an easy puppet at one time. Basically Roxas being complemented on being a worthy candidate just means he's being called brainless. As far as Sora and Roxas strength goes I place them about them same with Sora being a little stronger. Roxas technically had more time with the Keyblade but Sora has the "My Friends Are My Power!" cheat code. Funny how MX didn't seem worried about Terra's "sense of self". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruran 481 Posted January 21, 2013 Funny how MX didn't seem worried about Terra's "sense of self". Terra was more of a direct thing as opposed to other characters like Braig who had been (willingly) seeded. I'd say that MX convincing Terra to recklessly indulge in the darkness was a safety measure to help in MX's dominance over him as he knew Terra wouldn't be able to control it and eventually be smothered by it along with MX's own darkness. Of course it didn't turn out the way he had planned but I'd say MX trying to have Terra submit to darkness was him being concerned with his sense of self. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vainter 3 Posted June 12, 2013 Very interesting thoughts about the story from all of you. Personally, I think Aqua will be retrieved early in the game by Sora himself. I think the fact that we see the conversation between Ansem the Wise and Aqua (when she learns about Sora's adventures) in the RoD in the Birth By Sleep secret ending, it's just a way for Nomura to tell us that Sora is going to be the one to save her. The same goes for Ven, Terra. It's just my thought. Nothing concrete here. Finally, I think that in the very end, Sora will access Kingdom Hearts to give Roxas and Namine a true life on their own with all of them (along with Sora and Kairi) as individual beings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkXIIII 106 Posted April 15, 2014 Didn't Mickey confirm all the 7 guardians already? He said they had Mickey (himself), Sora, Riku, Terra, Aqua and Ven. Xehanort said they are two or three guardians short! (cuz of Terra being Xehanortified and Ven sleeping and one short anyway) But still, they DO have Mickey, Riku, Sora, Lea, Kairi and they found a way to wake Ven and they located Aqua (Was mentioned in the game) So the 7 are: Mickey, Riku, Aqua (Masters) Sora, Ven (Intermediate wielders) Lea, Kairi (Rookies) As for the 13 Darknesses we know: Master Xehanort, Ansem, Xemnas, Xigbar, Saix and Young Xehanort (I know he is unconfirmed and he says he has to return to his time "now" but still he is sitting on a throne briefly in DDD!) Sora escaped so Xehanort is 1 short and so we can say: Master Xehanort, Ansem, Xemnas, Xigbar, Saix, Young Xehanort, 1 undefined = 7 this leaves 6 for our speculation: Vanitas is almost certainly included Terra-Xehanort / Apprentice Xehanort is almost certain too (unless Terra is the Guardian of Ansem) because they will rescue Terra and this is the most obvious way to do it So we can add those to the latter 7 and we have a total of 9. So we have absolutely no clue what 4 of the members look like while 1 seat has to be replaced due to sora not working out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkXIIII 106 Posted April 15, 2014 Okay, whenever I post on a thread relating to the Guardians of Light or the plot of KH3 I always find myself posting a much shorter version of this theory. So I figured it would be much easier to just make topic for it and put a link on my responses. This way I can also put much more detail then I would feel comfortable putting in a regular post. Here I will explain what I think some of the events in KH3 will be. I would like you to tell me what you think of it as well as post you're own theories. Well, here I go. Fist I think KH3 will have four scenarios, during the first three of which we will control a different member of the DI trio. In the fourth we will control Sora again. However unlike BbS I think these scenarios will be sequential rather than parallel. Scenario 1 Kairi and Lea travel to the Realm of Darkness to retrieve Aqua. These two are perfect for this mission as Lea can still open Corridors of Darkness while Kairi, being a Princess of Heart will be unaffected by prolonged exposure and, perhaps, be able to offer Lea some protection as well. This could also provide the potential for some very interesting story line and character development for Kairi as she will have to travel with one of her many previous abductors. As for Worlds in the RoD, as we saw in "A Fragmentary Passage" when a world is swallowed by darkness it's ruins appear in the RoD. While the Worlds seemingly returned when Sora defeated Ansem SoD, as we learned in DDD some worlds, more than we visited, never fully awakened so it's possible that some worlds were never revived at all. Kairi and Lea could travel to these ruined worlds while searching for Aqua. Scenario 2 After Aqua is retrieved she can assist Sora, Donald an Goofy in traveling through Castle Oblivion to find and revive Ven. Sora is necessary for this task as he holds Ven's heart within him, and it seems that in every numbered title he's traveling with Donald and Goofy so that's why I put them with him here. When they find Ven and his heart leaves Sora's body it could result in Roxas returning, similar to how Namine was created. Several scenes in DDD, in addition to the opening, hint at Roxas coming back, like Sora expressing his wish for Roxas to be his own person and the revelation that Nobodies can develop their own hearts making them no different from whole people. In fact the whole reason Lea wanted to become a Keyblade Wielder in the first place is so that he could bring Roxas back while presumably at the same time not harming Sora. Also in both KHII and DDD members of both incarnations of Organization XIII state how much better of a wielder Roxas was compared to Sora. This could be a hint that Roxas is indeed the Seventh Guardian. There are some holes in this theory however, the largest of which is the fact that for Roxas to return Sora's body would need to be used to crate him, which means that Sora would have to become a Heartless and Nomura has already stated that Anti-Form is the closest he ever gets to this happening again. If Ven's heart is removed safely, without affecting Sora's, the latter will not become a Heartless, his body will not vanish and Roxas will not return. However if Sora's body does vanish, not only would it cheapen his sacrifice in the first game it would also go completely against Nomura's previous statement Scenario 3. After everyone else reunites, Riku's and Mickey's mission will be to rescue Terra from the Seekers of Darkness. Riku is especially well equipped to handle this job as he has gone through a similar experience having been possessed by Ansem SoD and with Sora's, and later Mickey's, help managed to break free of his evil influence as well as having acquired the power to dive into other peoples hearts. I believe it would also be beneficial to have saved Aqua and Ven beforehand as it was Terra's desire to protect them that allowed MX to possess him in the first place. This same desire could help him break free. Final Scenario The Seven Guardians of Light and their allies will confront the Thirteen Seekers of Darkness and defeat the threat of Master Xehanort once and for all. On an interesting side note if Xion and Namine where also to return and fight alongside the others it would be 13 against 13 Sora, Riku, Kairi, Roxas, Lea, Xion, Terra, Aqua, Ven, Mickey, Donald, Goofy, and Namine vs. the New Organization XIII. Awesome theory! While I'd rather not see Roxas return, I think they will revive him anyway. But I think we know he's not one of the seven already (DDD opening features him as seventh besides Mickey, Sora, Riku, Ven, Terra and Aqua but Xehanort says Yen Sid is some guardians short, terra is unavailable, mickey says he can retrieve aqua and ven + KAiri and Lea = Mickey, Sora, Riku, Aqua, Ven, Kairi, Lea) I totally agree on the Kairi+ Lea scenario in th erealm of darkness and the Aqua rescuing Ven in Castle Oblivion!! I'd LOVE to have a really mysterious world of ruins in the darkness! And Finally Castle Oblivion without cards, haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KHUndertaleFan25 2,858 Posted April 15, 2014 Hmm, interesting theory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted April 15, 2014 Didn't Mickey confirm all the 7 guardians already? He said they had Mickey (himself), Sora, Riku, Terra, Aqua and Ven. Xehanort said they are two or three guardians short! (cuz of Terra being Xehanortified and Ven sleeping and one short anyway) But still, they DO have Mickey, Riku, Sora, Lea, Kairi and they found a way to wake Ven and they located Aqua (Was mentioned in the game) So the 7 are: Mickey, Riku, Aqua (Masters) Sora, Ven (Intermediate wielders) Lea, Kairi (Rookies) As for the 13 Darknesses we know: Master Xehanort, Ansem, Xemnas, Xigbar, Saix and Young Xehanort (I know he is unconfirmed and he says he has to return to his time "now" but still he is sitting on a throne briefly in DDD!) Sora escaped so Xehanort is 1 short and so we can say: Master Xehanort, Ansem, Xemnas, Xigbar, Saix, Young Xehanort, 1 undefined = 7 this leaves 6 for our speculation: Vanitas is almost certainly included Terra-Xehanort / Apprentice Xehanort is almost certain too (unless Terra is the Guardian of Ansem) because they will rescue Terra and this is the most obvious way to do it So we can add those to the latter 7 and we have a total of 9. So we have absolutely no clue what 4 of the members look like while 1 seat has to be replaced due to sora not working out. Mickey was only mentioning Keyblade wielder that he knew of, and he only mentioned six (Kairi may have been the seventh as she was the only other wielder he had met) so that was just his theory, We have 3 different possible versions if we go by hints in 3D. Sora, Riku, Terra, Aqua, Ven, Mickey, and Roxas hinted at by the opening. Mickey, Terra, Aqua, Ven, Sora, Riku and maybe Kairi the ones Mickey mentioned and Sora, Riku, Mickey, Aqua, Ven, Kairi and Lea, hinted at by the end. Then Nomura said we'd be surprised so it may not be any of those combinations. Hell, it could be the 7 in my sig for all that we know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkXIIII 106 Posted April 16, 2014 Mickey was only mentioning Keyblade wielder that he knew of, and he only mentioned six (Kairi may have been the seventh as she was the only other wielder he had met) so that was just his theory, We have 3 different possible versions if we go by hints in 3D. Sora, Riku, Terra, Aqua, Ven, Mickey, and Roxas hinted at by the opening. Mickey, Terra, Aqua, Ven, Sora, Riku and maybe Kairi the ones Mickey mentioned and Sora, Riku, Mickey, Aqua, Ven, Kairi and Lea, hinted at by the end. Then Nomura said we'd be surprised so it may not be any of those combinations. Hell, it could be the 7 in my sig for all that we know. Yeah, I'd totally expect something unexpected like Naminé wielding a badass Keyblade! Nomura is so unpredictable! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites