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Spoilers: Riku and the Mom Exam


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#1 Spencer Ellis Norman

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:00 PM

What are your views on how 3D turned out?

Think hard and be thorough, do you think its justified?

#2 Sky Heart

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:05 PM

What are your views on how 3D turned out?

Think hard and be thorough, do you think its justified?

Riku deserved it, why?
- He completed his task (7 Keyholes of Sleep)
- He did not receive extra help going back to the Realm of Light (Their Realm)
- He saved Sora
- He was able to acquire the new power they were trying to achieve
- He has true mastery of the Keyblade
- And also his heart
- He was always thinking about the mission (Focused)
- He doesn't let his heart control him, like Sora did
- He has true balance between mind, body and heart
- He did not fall into darkness
- He found a way to lock the darkness in his heart
- And also he really needed to pass, if he didn't pass he would have taken it harder than Sora.

And also he was meant to be the original Keyblade Master between his friends.

Edited by Sky Heart, 29 April 2012 - 08:13 PM.


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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:20 PM

i thought half the game was going to be the MoM and the other half in the ROL/ROD

#4 Spencer Ellis Norman

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:23 PM

Riku deserved it, why?
- He completed his task (7 Keyholes of Sleep)
- He did not receive extra help going back to the Realm of Light (Their Realm)
- He saved Sora
- He was able to acquire the new power they were trying to achieve
- He has true mastery of the Keyblade
- And also his heart
- He was always thinking about the mission (Focused)
- He doesn't let his heart control him, like Sora did
- He has true balance between mind, body and heart
- He did not fall into darkness
- He found a way to lock the darkness in his heart
- And also he really needed to pass, if he didn't pass he would have taken it harder than Sora.

And also he was meant to be the original Keyblade Master between his friends.


I mean...yeah im not saying he doesnt deserve it because he does. But ive made this point before, there would be no Riku if it werent for Sora, truthfully. Sora risked so much, he turned into a Heartless to save the Princesses, fought his Nobody created from that event. Had to save the world OUT OF NOWHERE!! Dude was just chillin on his island when it was thrust upon him. Then saved Riku man, like i dont see how Yen Sid doesnt acknowledge that, the world as we know it could be in complete Darkness if it werent for Sora. Sure he "fell" into Darkness but Riku gave into it intentionally at first. I think Sora is better than a Master, he doesnt need a title.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:27 PM

I mean...yeah im not saying he doesnt deserve it because he does. But ive made this point before, there would be no Riku if it werent for Sora, truthfully. Sora risked so much, he turned into a Heartless to save the Princesses, fought his Nobody created from that event. Had to save the world OUT OF NOWHERE!! Dude was just chillin on his island when it was thrust upon him. Then saved Riku man, like i dont see how Yen Sid doesnt acknowledge that, the world as we know it could be in complete Darkness if it werent for Sora. Sure he "fell" into Darkness but Riku gave into it intentionally at first. I think Sora is better than a Master, he doesnt need a title.

Sora did this RECKLESSLY, putting others at danger and being ignorant at the same time. And as for Riku, think. Terra was firetrucking awesome and couldn't get rid of the darkness, while Riku got rid of it and saved Sora. Riku gave everything to save Sora too. You played 358/2 days?

#6 Spencer Ellis Norman

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:30 PM

Sora did this RECKLESSLY, putting others at danger and being ignorant at the same time. And as for Riku, think. Terra was firetrucking awesome and couldn't get rid of the darkness, while Riku got rid of it and saved Sora. Riku gave everything to save Sora too. You played 358/2 days?


I forgot about Days....hmm. Ill have to check Rikus backstory. But who did Sora put in danger, he save alot of people and alot of worlds.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:37 PM

I forgot about Days....hmm. Ill have to check Rikus backstory. But who did Sora put in danger, he save alot of people and alot of worlds.

He's put everyone connected to him in danger, whether voluntary or not.

#8 Spencer Ellis Norman

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:47 PM

He's put everyone connected to him in danger, whether voluntary or not.


How? Not like he asked for them to be connected.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:49 PM

How? Not like he asked for them to be connected.

He's just ignorant, and too naive. Riku has grown up and decided to help, and Sora hasn't.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:11 PM

lol, I actually read this thread as Riku and the mom (as in mother) exam!

Oops, won't make that mistake again!

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:14 PM

lol, I actually read this thread as Riku and the mom (as in mother) exam!

Oops, won't make that mistake again!

This xD

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 10:11 PM

lol, I actually read this thread as Riku and the mom (as in mother) exam!

Oops, won't make that mistake again!

This xD

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 10:31 PM

I mean...yeah im not saying he doesnt deserve it because he does. But ive made this point before, there would be no Riku if it werent for Sora, truthfully. Sora risked so much, he turned into a Heartless to save the Princesses, fought his Nobody created from that event. Had to save the world OUT OF NOWHERE!! Dude was just chillin on his island when it was thrust upon him. Then saved Riku man, like i dont see how Yen Sid doesnt acknowledge that, the world as we know it could be in complete Darkness if it werent for Sora. Sure he "fell" into Darkness but Riku gave into it intentionally at first. I think Sora is better than a Master, he doesnt need a title.


The point is Riku F***ing grew. He learned from his past mistakes. He is a dynamic character.

But Sora on the other hand is a very static character. Without YMX, he is just a character who believes in his heart. YMX gave him so much depth.

That is basically why Sora failed and Riku passed. Sora trusts his heart way too much. He doesn't have control over it. It controls him.

He's just ignorant, and too naive. Riku has grown up and decided to help, and Sora hasn't.


Exactly, there isn't anything to be said about this. Nomura was completely right in failing Sora and passing Riku for the game.

@Spencer Ellis Norman That's how it should have been. If you watched all the scenes, you can tell Sora didn't deserve the title of Master.

Edited by Sky Heart, 29 April 2012 - 10:31 PM.


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Posted 29 April 2012 - 10:52 PM

I think Riku definitely deserved it. I feel like he has made a concious effort to make up for his mistakes and redeem himself, while learning a lot in the process.
Sora just fell a little short of the mark, but he'll get em next time.

#15 Spencer Ellis Norman

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 11:07 PM

Well what makes you a Master? What are the skills required? I just dont see why Sora doesnt have em.

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Posted 30 April 2012 - 05:06 AM

This is a confusing troll from Nomura. First in KH1 Sora was a chosen as a keyblade wielder. But now anyone can be a chosen wielder from a MoM exam O.O and then there is this stuff about a master O.O Isn't Sora the chosen keyblade wielder or was that just a troll?