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[Rikki-Higgins]

Still waiting for Donald and Goofy to get keyblades lel

[MaxPoweh]

First of all, I kinda doubt Kairi is doing the exam, with -little to know experience on how to actually handle the keyblade.
She'll just end up training along with Lea, while Sora re-takes the exam. o3o

[Chosenl]

Let's review the secret endings of both KHBBSFM and KH3DS. Remember that all the secret endings of all games have a meaningful tie to the next.


KHBBSFM:
1-shows up at the beginning, with sora on destiny islands, talking about KH1
0-shows up when Aqua finds Ansem the wise in the Realm of Darkness
Right after, it reverses the ending, going back to the point where Aqua was saved by Terra and Ven's Keyblades.
This is where it says "Zero Point", basically 0.5. Here you find Aqua running into Castle of Dreams.
You also see Mickey in the Realm of Darkness, which I'm pretty sure he's searching for Aqua.
The last part, you see Sora and Ven disappear.
"A fragmented passage"-along with "blank points", there are events that happened during KH1-2 that are important and were not shown before.

KH3DS:
"The Darkness Awakens"-Master Xehanort returns of course.
"The Light in the Darkness"-Aqua trapped in Realm of Darkness. With this and the hints given in KHBBSFX, i believe its clear that Mickey is going to search for Aqua. Wouldn't make sense for Kairi to rescue Aqua just cause Kairi is one of the targets of the Organization.
Donald and Goofy complain that Sora is running late. It could be that he left without saying a word to awaken Ventus, or that a memory of Roxas/Xion that he saw with his meeting with Roxas gave him a clue on how he can help them. It might be Ventus just because Ven was the final boss, and I think Ven is calling out to Sora and/or trying to lead him to where he is.
Lea is off at Radiant Gardens, not getting any training. I don't think he needs any keyblade training considering that he is an AWESOME fighter WITHOUT a Keyblade before. He's probably investigating Terranort's study, and maybe he'll find Aqua's keyblade and armor.
The Seven Lights that are suppose to face off against Organization XIII are Sora, Riku, Kairi, and Lea for sure. According to the ending of KH:Recoded, Mickey and Yensid know where Aqua is and they're close to finding Ventus. That's 6. While Terra status is unknown right now, Mickey is there. I believe that Terra is the 7th, and why? Mickey is a mouse xP, sorry.
Kairi shows up and is probably gonna be trained by Yen Sid, which is most logical. Mickey and Riku might help out with that too.
Regular Ending-Remember when Castle Oblivion was shown? Because of the camera quality, i couldn't tell if someone was walking towards the castle or not. If there was, it looked like Yen Sid by the color, but I really am not sure. Also, look closely at Ven. He raises his head!!!!!!! Did Riku defeating Sora release Ven's heart?!?!?

KH: Recoded
Namine said that Sora must awaken his memories in order to save everyone. A lot of memories returned to Sora in 3DS.



At the end of Recoded, Birth by Sleep, and 3DS, "Reconnect: Kingdom Hearts" appeared in all of them. I think Reconnect and Birth by Sleep Volume 2 is the same game, speaking about the events that took place behind the scenes during KH1 throught 2. I meant, is says reconnect, so reconnect them all together? yea... What happened to Aqua all this time? Did she find other worlds besides Castle of Dreams? What happened to Terra all this time ever since Xehanort split into 2. Why does Xemnas have some of Terra's memories (looking for Ven in Castle of Oblivion and hiding away Aqua's keyblade and armor)? Does Xemnas have Terra's heart without knowing it? What about Eraqus? Terra kept his hear just like how Sora kept Kairi's and Ven's. What's the whole time traveling thing with old Xehanort and young Xehanort thing?!?!?! Will Vanitas return? I doubt it xP. I think a Kingdom Hearts 0.5 (Reconnect/BBS Volume 2) is the new number, considering 3 is used in 3DS. I also don't think it will be KH3 next just because there's too much questions (and many new ones!!!!) left unanswered. A game that takes place from KH1 until the now would be great to answer it all!!!


The past will be reawakened as a new number
In never-before-seen detail
Prepare yourself for the awakening of the next number

Reconnect all the past games with Birth by Sleep Volume 2, also to me known as Kingdom Hearts 0.5

I added pictures just to prove my point.

Mickey is searching for Aqua. Not Lea, not Kairi. This is from BBSFM



Lea has a Keyblade. Making it known that there are 8 keyblade wielders of light. Sora, Riku, Kairi, Aqua, Terra, Ventus, Lea, Mickey. There's suppose to be 7 lights. Possible people that could be eliminated from the list are Terra (status unknown OR he's with Organization 13), Mickey (just cause he's a mouse and that Yen Sid mentioned that its 7 children [maybe referring to young weilders], or Sora. Why would Sora possibly not be included? It was mentioned in 3DS that he has no keyblade wielding powers of his own, and that the hearts he harbors lended him that power. Master Xehanort also mentioned in 3DS that Sora is far off from being a keyblade wielder.



Another clue that Sora may NOT being a true keyblade wielder is when Riku took his Keyblade. Riku mentioned that he was just a true weilder, and that Sora was just delivering the keyblade. That could be true considering that Riku summoned Sora's Keyblade at that time. But Sora managed to get it back. How? The heart of Ventus inside of him. Remember in BBS, Ventus said the exact same lines Sora did (look at the top and bottom picture). Sora's heart and Ventus' heart connected even closer, causing Sora to say the exact same thing. He thinks that its his words, but those words were spoken by Ventus himself!


His friends, connected hearts, these are his true power.

Edited by Chosenl, 02 April 2012 - 08:06 PM.

[blue490246]

first post in this forum ^^

been reading up through these 8 pages... interesting analyses, but just wondering if anyone has the same thoughts, could everyone be just overlooking BBS Vol. 2? Couldn't it also mean that the events of BBS are going to reoccur, which is true now that 3DS has explained the intentions of Xehanort and having the 7 lights and 13 darknesses considering these 7 lights and 13 darknesses came from the X-Blade or the events of BBS so essentially KH3 will perhaps be a repeat of BBS in the sense that pure light will clash with pure darkness to create the X-Blade or a way into Kingdom Hearts. I am saying this though without any other knowledge of whether Nomura said there would be a KH0.5 game, so i'm sorry if that's the case and all I've said is bogus haha...

And just to ask, is the castle that Aqua encounters in the Realm of Darkness in the BBSFM secret ending really the Castle of Dreams? I don't think there was really any significance of the Castle of Dreams besides the fact that it's the world that Cinderella is in... I feel like there's a significance to the castle that hasn't been revealed yet...

Edited by blue490246, 03 April 2012 - 01:48 PM.

[oathkeeper89]

AQUA!!!! yay she will finally getout of that crappy world or get rescued...either one is fine:)
poor sora its pretty obvious by now he failed his test retakes suck lol , havent seen too many clips yet(trying not to spoil everything..pfft too late for that!!XD) but someone commented on that Lea might be taking the exam, how is that gonna work can anyone explain please? i will be forever greatful<3

Edited by oathkeeper89, 03 April 2012 - 02:57 PM.

[Eterna]

Terra is gone, he most likely isn't one of the seven.

Also, Kingdom hearts 3 had better not be for the Wii-U, I'd throw a shit storm. Stick to sony, seriously.

Edited by Eterna, 03 April 2012 - 04:26 PM.

[somedayhunchback]

I remember in Kingdom Hearts 2 Kairi had her own keyblade

[blue490246]

So now that Nomura has somewhat implied KHIII will be the next game (based on the Apr 5 issue of Famitsu weekly), I'd say we can assume that BBS Volume 2 is, in other words, KHIII.

And just another speculation, perhaps, maybe by the end of KHIII, considering Ventus may appear separately from Sora, Sora may get his own Keyblade then?

[nic2134]

crimmyice from TwitchTV has unlocked the Secret Message and Secret Movie (secret ending) from Kingdom Hearts 3D. You can read the Secret Message below.



Secret movie uploaded to YouTube:

Think about the secret message though along with the movie...
If you havnt watched the ending yet, during the ending it was stated that in the time of the keyblade wars the world changed and it was brokedn into 7 lights and 13 darknesses.
So Xehanort has 12 darknesses needs one more, and Team Sora has Six, so they too need one more, who is obviously gonna be Kairi!! Finaly she gets to be something other than the damsel in distress!! Although they say the seven lights are to Protect the seven pure hearts (the princesses) and Kairi is one of them so I guess she needs to learn how to protect her self better right!!
Anyway where I am going with this it says the Past will reveal a new number...
Maybe this is something about balancing the powers of Light and Dark?
Maybe this time it will align more equaly and will will have 13 Light and 13 dark...
Or soemthing to that effect....I am just going with what they were talking about the 7 lights and 13 dark and this was created by what happened in the past.
Maybe this go round it will split again and a new number?

[nic2134]

AQUA!!!! yay she will finally getout of that crappy world or get rescued...either one is fine:)
poor sora its pretty obvious by now he failed his test retakes suck lol , havent seen too many clips yet(trying not to spoil everything..pfft too late for that!!XD) but someone commented on that Lea might be taking the exam, how is that gonna work can anyone explain please? i will be forever greatful<3

I dont understand why she is stuck in the world of darkness?
Riku and Mickey have both made there way out of there, as well as Sora and Riku...
she has a keyblade why cant she just summon the lanes inbetween and leave?

Terra is gone, he most likely isn't one of the seven.

Also, Kingdom hearts 3 had better not be for the Wii-U, I'd throw a shit storm. Stick to sony, seriously.

Terra may not be gone.. We dont know what happened with them splitting their heart so many times during what happened in BBS and what has happened since, I think its possible Terra may have his own body and is a sleeper agent within Organization Xehanort...

[nic2134]

I like that theory. If Kairi finds Aqua in the ROD and gets in trouble her necklace will take her to Sora who may be tasked with finding Ventus.

I don't think Sora is the one that can be tasked with finding Ventus, the reason being is Aqua is the only one who can navigate completely through the Castle Oblivion, anyone else other than Aqua can only have access to certain places and will get lost trying to locate specific rooms. She set it up this way so that only she would be able to wake Ven. Thats why she apologizes as she is falling into the ROD because she knows no one else will be able to rescue him but her.
And sending a Princess of Heart to the ROD would be one of the unwisest things that Yen Sid would ever do.
I beleive that Kairi will be trained to use the Keyblade, with Mickey and Riku's help, I think Sora and Aqua will definately need to be located for Ven to be saved and awakened. Because in watching the ending and secret ending it appears that Sora is lost..
Lea doesn't need training, I theorize that all of the memebers of the Organization were made Keybladers before they became Nobodies. Reason being the credential of becoming a nobody is to have a strong heart, coincidentaly you also have to have a strong heart to become a keyblade wielder, plus it requires a keyblade to be able to remove ones heart and if the members of Org XIII were gonna turn them selves into heartless and nobodies they would need keyblades to do the job. But they couldnt use there Keyblades as nobodies because they didnt have hearts right away...(Xemans says a heart can bud..)
Roxas was the exception to this because I believe that he was the only Nobody born with a heart, with the combined hearts of Sora and Ven being there to help his to grow faster, and for this reason his heart was connectecd to Sora's he was able to use his Keyblade

Edited by nic2134, 04 April 2012 - 10:35 AM.

[Flaming Lea]

I don't think Sora is the one that can be tasked with finding Ventus, the reason being is Aqua is the only one who can navigate completely through the Castle Oblivion, anyone else other than Aqua can only have access to certain places and will get lost trying to locate specific rooms. She set it up this way so that only she would be able to wake Ven. Thats why she apologizes as she is falling into the ROD because she knows no one else will be able to rescue him but her.
And sending a Princess of Heart to the ROD would be one of the unwisest things that Yen Sid would ever do.
I beleive that Kairi will be trained to use the Keyblade, with Mickey and Riku's help, I think Sora and Aqua will definately need to be located for Ven to be saved and awakened. Because in watching the ending and secret ending it appears that Sora is lost..
Lea doesn't need training, I theorize that all of the memebers of the Organization were made Keybladers before they became Nobodies. Reason being the credential of becoming a nobody is to have a strong heart, coincidentaly you also have to have a strong heart to become a keyblade wielder, plus it requires a keyblade to be able to remove ones heart and if the members of Org XIII were gonna turn them selves into heartless and nobodies they would need keyblades to do the job.

MX was the one who stabbed them .They didnt see it coming .This was showed in game. They didnt stab themselves let alone have their own keyblades.

[nic2134]

What is everyones issue with Kairi being a keyblade wielder? It makes sense as to why she is, and to be honest yes who didnt see that coming?
I don't think she is ready for the Mark of Mastery yet and Yen Sid knows this as well, but they don't have time to get her up to par! Xehanort is moving forward with his plans, now for now Riku and Mickey and Lea thwarted Xehanorts plan to make Sora the 13th darkness but, that doesn't mean he cant still find someone to take his place. They need to train Kairi and they need to train her fast, an who knows maybe having a Princess of Heart be a keyblade wielder will be the cause of something Epic in Kingdom Hearts.
As far as Roxas coming back I dont think that is something we will ever see, he resides within Sora and I dont think there is a way to make them seperate without weakening Sora again.
To be honest I think they should have made Kairi a keyblade wielder a lot sooner than they did! I think it would have made it more exciting to see her set herself free from the prison in KHII by summoning her Keyblade for the first time and unlocking it. Then watching her fight her way to Sora's side, I dont think she is as week and untested as you all say she is either, remember she spent years growing up around Sora and Riku training whos to say she didnt jump in every once in a while? But she def could have picked things up from them. She is stronger than yall give her credit for and I think Nomura is doing the right thing.
As far as the secret ending goes, do you doofuses realize that this is a teaser for KH3? FOR KH3!!!!
Its coming finally after all this time and all the waiting and all the side stories, and your complaints this is it the end of the Xehanort Trillogy!!
If you havnt peed your pants in excitement for even the smallest glimps of the next main titled game you are not a KH fan im sorry your just not.
This is leading up to what I imagine will be one of the greatest battle moments in KH, if you saw the opening movie of all of them gathered together to face Xehanort!!!
THIS IS IT FOLKS ITS COMING!!!!

[nic2134]

MX was the one who stabbed them .They didnt see it coming .This was showed in game. They didnt stab themselves let alone have their own keyblades.

Oh this was shown in KH3D? Sorry I havnt been able to watch all the cutsceens yet cause they dont have them all posted yet
So I was just theorizing...

[Flaming Lea]

Oh this was shown in KH3D? Sorry I havnt been able to watch all the cutsceens yet cause they dont have them all posted yet http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoti...
So I was just theorizing...

They are there if you watch the playthrough videos posted.Plus this is in the very beginning.

[nic2134]

They are there if you watch the playthrough videos posted.Plus this is in the very beginning.

I have only been able to watch whats been uploaded to you tube, the playthrough vids are all on twitch which I cant watch on my phone but once I am able to sit down at a computer and check them out I def will!! thanks!!

[Flaming Lea]

I have only been able to watch whats been uploaded to you tube, the playthrough vids are all on twitch which I cant watch on my phone http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoti... but once I am able to sit down at a computer and check them out I def will!! thanks!!

you are welcome

[Spiney]

I don't understand why there are so many people hate this ending (and it's not just here, in fact there are a lot people here who seem to share my thoughts. I am mainly referring youtube/other forums). We haven't seen cgi secret endings since like...KH2. Re:coded didn't have a great secret ending and I am pretty sure DAYS didn't even have one. Kairi becoming a keybladers is not surprising since we saw she could use one at the since like KH2...so this shouldn't shock anyone. I am GLAD she's getting development b/c this is where all the hate for her comes from. She doesn't have a real personality and that not good for someone who sora supposedly cares about so much. So yeah, those are my thoughts on the issue. T_T

But i have a question...do u think MX is going to try and make Sora a vessel in the next game? I'm thinking not but I dunno, just something that came to mind.

Edited by Spiney, 04 April 2012 - 04:38 PM.

[Nathaniel Strangman]

What the crap!!! Ok so there are seven princesses. seven people have to protect the princesses. Are the seven people keyblade wielders? and they have to fight the NEW organization. whose's in the NEW organization. Are the seven protectors sora, riku, lea, mickey, kairi, terra, aqua, and ven? and how can kairi be a wielder and a princess? AHHHHHHH!!!!!! and don't lea sora kairi terra and ven need to be masters to fully be able to fight?! what about donald and goofy

[Nathaniel Strangman]

PLEASE SOMEONE SMARTER THAN ME REPLY TO MY COMMENT

Dude, has Nomura ever heard of copyright! Nomura, have you ever heard of The Magnificent Seven! Have you never heard of Star wars! The whole terra anakin thing not cool man