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[Vanitas]

His keyblade looks like a freakin Phoenix Down.

Edited by Vanitas, 30 March 2012 - 10:39 PM.

[Falling-Stars]

To be honest, I love Lea's keyblade solely for the reaction it got from everyone else.

Sora, Riku, Donald, Goofy, Mickey, and Yen Sid: WHAAATTTTTT??????

But yeah, seeing Lea and Isa fight was unexpected but also a little sad, especially now that Lea has his heart back and can truly and completely feel the bitterness of having to fight his former best friend.

They never lost their hearts.

[Moni_22]

I think I know understand. Isa in BbS has green eyes and normal ears. While Saïx has gold eyes and spiky ears, just like Xehanort. This is why! The actual Isa, like Braig, is becoming a Xehanort. That's why he has gold eyes and spiky ears, and that's why he's in the new Organization and attacked Lea. Maybe he can't recognize him now. I feel bad for him... but I'm sure Lea is going to save him. =)

PD: Sorry if my english is bad, I'm new and I'm spanish, nice to meet you btw. ^^

Edit: Oh, and about Lea's keyblade... yeah. He says he want to have one, but it was difficult for him to summon one, and then he summons it and that's why everyone is surprised, including him.

Edited by Moni_22, 31 March 2012 - 07:28 AM.

[Salve-SiS]

They never lost their hearts.

Yeah, just found that out. (Laughs) which makes their time as Nobodies even more depressing.

[Switzerland]

I just liked how they could have a long confrontation while standing on a chair. And Lea's just that much of a boss to fight Isa while holding Sora on his arm, without a keyblade. He's just awesome enough to do that.

[Sejexs]

looks like the nobodies were able to get new hearts after all. on their own. and Braig is already half of Xehanort! Man thats twisted stuff

[Sejexs]

His keyblade looks like a freakin Phoenix Down.

Apparently its supposed to be a mash-up of the Bond of Flame and Frolic Flame keyblades

Edited by Sejexs, 31 March 2012 - 05:45 PM.

[Eterna]

I think that Lea having a Keyblade is the cheapest and lamest thing to ever happen to the series.

Edited by Eterna, 31 March 2012 - 06:20 PM.

[Falling-Stars]

Yeah, just found that out. (Laughs) which makes their time as Nobodies even more depressing.

I know, right? Augh,.,, It makes me sort of worry what Saix has up his sleeve. He had to have felt a lot of resentment when Axel chose Roxas over him.

[Xirog]

I think I know understand. Isa in BbS has green eyes and normal ears. While Saïx has gold eyes and spiky ears, just like Xehanort. This is why! The actual Isa, like Braig, is becoming a Xehanort. That's why he has gold eyes and spiky ears, and that's why he's in the new Organization and attacked Lea.

Whoa, i'm partially colorblind and i can't notice the difference between the Gold and Green eyes, but the ears, of course.
I never really thought about it meaning they were becoming Xehanort's...
This is so epic.
Also, about Isa/Saix and Lea/Axel friendship, i think about it like this:

When they were common humans, before Org XIII: Best Friends
Became Nobodys, during Org XIII : Neutral, just a bit related, since they remember the good old times in Radiant Garden
Became humans again, during the new Org XIII: Enemies

[Moni_22]

Whoa, i'm partially colorblind and i can't notice the difference between the Gold and Green eyes, but the ears, of course.
I never really thought about it meaning they were becoming Xehanort's...
This is so epic.
Also, about Isa/Saix and Lea/Axel friendship, i think about it like this:

When they were common humans, before Org XIII: Best Friends
Became Nobodys, during Org XIII : Neutral, just a bit related, since they remember the good old times in Radiant Garden
Became humans again, during the new Org XIII: Enemies

Yeah, I noticed that there were differences, but I didn't think they were relevant. I just thought it was like Axel's marks, nothing really important. But now it has a meaning.

[Lady Dreana]

Yeah, I noticed that there were differences, but I didn't think they were relevant. I just thought it was like Axel's marks, nothing really important. But now it has a meaning.

You mean Axel was close to becoming a Xehanort vessel because of those markings?

[Bizarro]

No, he/she used to be under the impression Saix's golden eyes etc. were just like Axel's marks, but they're not. Axel's marks don't have any similarity to Xehanort's physical characteristics, and 3D makes it obvious that the markings were just signs of him being a Nobody. I too was originally under the impression that Saix's changes were because of his transformation into a Nobody, but that's not the case at all. He's definitely a half-Xehanort.

Edited by Bizarro, 01 April 2012 - 07:02 PM.

[Raynaninja]

The Saix/Lea "fight" was cool even for how short is was. Im still not sure if I like Lea having a keyblade or not yet. I just don't want him to stop using his original weapons. I won't judge till I see what happens in the future games I guess.

[Moni_22]

You mean Axel was close to becoming a Xehanort vessel because of those markings?

No, I mean that at first I thought that the differences between Isa and Saïx were not important, like the marks under Axel's eyes. But they ARE important after all, but Axel's marks are not.

[G-SANtos]

They never lost their hearts.

Actually they did, Axel just grew a new one.

Debate about Axel having a ceremony.

I have a theory about his Keyblade. I could be mistaknen but, Keyblades have hearts, don't they? And Axel grew a heart due to experiencing a friendship with Roxas and Xion.
Then Axel became a human again, and there's where it goes: We have seen other instances of multiple hearts on the same body. Ventus willingly joined with Sora and stayed quiet for most of the time, and Roxas and Xion also seem to have hearts, while Terra and Master Xehanort are constantly fighting for control of the body with Master Eraqus helping Terra. In both cases, it were hearts with different mindsets, but Lea and Axel have the same mindset and are the same person, so when he was reunited with his hearts, two hearts with the same mindset couldn't coexist in the same body, so one of the hearts became a Keyblade.

But after reading the other posts in this thread, it seems more likely that Yen Sid performed a Ceremony and the Keyblade showed up in record time. Maybe having two hearts helped, or the two hearts merged and this formed an even stronger heart that sped things up.
Nomura also said that there are as many Keyblades as people with strong hearts to wield them. If Lea really has two hearts now, could he dual wield?

[devereauxr]

They never lost their hearts.

Yes they did intially they had no hearts Xemnas lied to them and all the org members they needed to create kingdom hearts to gain new hearts. However because they had the capacity they were able to grow new hearts on their own.

[Falling-Stars]

Yes they did intially they had no hearts Xemnas lied to them and all the org members they needed to create kingdom hearts to gain new hearts. However because they had the capacity they were able to grow new hearts on their own.

It was a mistranslation. I'm well aware of that now, but I believe the point was that they had them all along.

[devereauxr]

It was a mistranslation. I'm well aware of that now, but I believe the point was that they had them all along.

How do yo know it was mistranslation it would defeat the purpose of having the concept of nobodies

Edited by devereauxr, 27 April 2012 - 11:22 PM.

[Falling-Stars]

How do yo know it was mistranslation it would defeat the purpose of having the concept of nobodies

.... It was a mistranslation on my behalf, a few posts above. I got the information from one of the very first translations. But as I said, the point I was trying to make with the original post was that they had hearts.
Also, pronunciation marks are your friend. <3