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#1 FireRubies1

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:16 PM

So when Sora released his hearts he also released Ventus' heart. So did the heart wake Ventus up from his coma as Roxas or is Ventus still sleeping somewhere in Castle Oblivion?

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:21 PM

Ven's still in Castle Oblvion. His heart was imprisoned in Roxas when he was created... I think. I usually don't think about technical things like that.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:37 PM

Sora never released Ven's heart. It stayed in his body when Roxas was created, which is why Roxas looks like Ven.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:25 AM

Sora never released Ven's heart. It stayed in his body when Roxas was created, which is why Roxas looks like Ven.


Nope Roxas had Ven's heart that's why he was in pain when he went to Castle Oblivion. his heart was reacting to his body being in the castle. And also why Roxas had emotions. Xion had a few memories from Ven's heart which is why Xigbar saw her as Ven

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:29 AM

Nope Roxas had Ven's heart that's why he was in pain when he went to Castle Oblivion. his heart was reacting to his body being in the castle. And also why Roxas had emotions. Xion had a few memories from Ven's heart which is why Xigbar saw her as Ven


lol, you basically just said the same thing I did. Roxas is Sora's body, Ven's heart stayed in Sora's body when it turned into Roxas.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:35 AM

lol, you basically just said the same thing I did. Roxas is Sora's body, Ven's heart stayed in Sora's body when it turned into Roxas.


No I was trying to say Sora DID released Ven's heart it just merged back with him when Roxas did. I guess I was thinking ahead of myself and left that out lol hate when that happens

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:42 AM

So you're saying Ven's heart left Sora's body only to return to it after it turned into Roxas? That makes no sense. Makes more sense for it to stay in place, which would also explain the appearance.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:22 AM

So you're saying Ven's heart left Sora's body only to return to it after it turned into Roxas? That makes no sense. Makes more sense for it to stay in place, which would also explain the appearance.


But that's what happened. It left, made Roxas (technically) and went back to Sora when Roxas merged with him. How doesnt that make sense?

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:26 AM

But Roxas is Sora's body. So you're saying the heart left Sora's body. Sora's body turned into Roxas. Ven's heart returned to Sora's body while it was Roxas. Then Roxas and Sora merged again. That's what I meant by it.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:33 AM

*face palm* ok let's try this again lol I'm about to confuse myself which takes talent haha

Sora kills himself=release princesses heart from keyblade and Kairi's Heart from his AND Ven's Heart

Sora's death= Roxas's birth BUT has Ven's heart (this is where the explanation from earlier comes in)

Roxas having Ven's heart= emotions, memories (mostly went to Xion) etc

Sora and Roxas Merging= Ven's Heart returns.

Sora's body DID NOT turn into Roxas (that's what doesnt make ANY sense) Ven's heart was Roxas's heart really I cant put it any simpiler Azure. lol if you still dont get it replay the games lol

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:37 AM

Here's a simpler way of what you're saying, and what I'm getting at.

Sora stabs himself, Ven's heart leaves.

Sora's body turns into Roxas, Ven's heart goes back in.

It would make more sense for Ven's heart to stay, instead of leave and come back when Sora's body transforms into his Nobody, Roxas. As the Nobody is the actual body and soul.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:46 AM

Here's a simpler way of what you're saying, and what I'm getting at.

Sora stabs himself, Ven's heart leaves.

Sora's body turns into Roxas, Ven's heart goes back in.

It would make more sense for Ven's heart to stay, instead of leave and come back when Sora's body transforms into his Nobody, Roxas. As the Nobody is the actual body and soul.


It would make more sense but that's not what happened and Sora's body NEVER changed. while Roxas was around Sora was kicking Ansem's ass (lol), then went to Castle oblivion and then went to sleep quit saying it changed lol

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:49 AM

Sora's body became Roxas, like how every other Nobody is made. Sora was a Heartless and Kairi made a body-like shell for him, which is what we play as in the rest of KH1 and CoM. Then Sora get's his real body back in KH2.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:53 AM

Then ven's heart made Roxas's body cause if that was true then we wouldnt have the rest of KH1 and Recom. Kinda like my first theory of Ven's heart from a while back. I dont know we'll get the answer eventually in either Dream Drop or 3.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:59 AM

Ven's heart changed Sora's body to look like Ven when Roxas was created from Sora's body while Sora was a Heartless. Then Heartless Sora made it back to Kairi, who's Light created a body-like shell to hold Sora's heart. Technically, the Sora we play as in the end of KH1 and all of CoM is still a Heartless, which is why he and Roxas could co-exist. Roxas had Sora's body and Ven's heart. While Sora had his heart and a fake body unknowingly created by Kairi.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:04 AM

That makes no sense. But really replay the games cause I'm sticking with what I know from the stuff I learned from the games. Just replay ReCom and 358. that's how I got it. it took me abit but hell alot of my friends here at home and in college agree about what I told ya so it's not just me that's saying this lol.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 02:43 AM

Ven's heart changed Sora's body to look like Ven when Roxas was created from Sora's body while Sora was a Heartless. Then Heartless Sora made it back to Kairi, who's Light created a body-like shell to hold Sora's heart. Technically, the Sora we play as in the end of KH1 and all of CoM is still a Heartless, which is why he and Roxas could co-exist. Roxas had Sora's body and Ven's heart. While Sora had his heart and a fake body unknowingly created by Kairi.

I gotta agree with Ventus_XIII that makes no sense play 358/2 day and COM to explain it

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:40 AM

im going to do you guys a favor and just ansear the first question. ven is still sleeping. aqua is the only one who can navigate the halls of castle oblivion. so without aqua no one can reatch ven. got it memerized?

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:25 PM

im going to do you guys a favor and just ansear the first question. ven is still sleeping. aqua is the only one who can navigate the halls of castle oblivion. so without aqua no one can reatch ven. got it memerized?


yeah agreed. btw hahaha as the last statement lol