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[Sora96]

Oh and the many civilians dead in Pearl Harbor on a country that wasnt even at war was ok.Get real..I bet if Japan dropped a bomb on your ass you wouldnt be saying that .Come on now XD.. Also, like i said the world was thisclose to having humanity wiped out if the Axis powers had beat us to it ..Which they attempted to do. Its better to kill a few then the whole freaking world being anihillated dont you think ?

"Two wrongs don't make a right." Japan wouldn't "drop a bomb on my ass". And even if they did I would be dead.

"An injury to one, is an injury to all."

[Flaming Lea]

"Two wrongs don't make a right." Japan wouldn't "drop a bomb on my ass". And even if they did I would be dead.

"An injury to one, is an injury to all."

I meant Austraila and you know it ..AND like i said, whats better , bomb a few cities or let the Axis powers use that very bomb on the WORLD ..If you cant understand that simple logic you are lost ..lol....Its better to utilize a way to minimize the death toll then to risk the whole world being destroyed.Simple logic.

[Sora96]

I meant Austraila and you know it ..AND like i said, whats better , bomb a few cities or let the Axis powers use that very bomb on the WORLD ..If you cant understand that simple logic you are lost ..lol....Its better to utilize a way to minimize the death toll then to risk the whole world being destroyed.Simple logic.

Would you be saying that if your ancestors were killed in either of those bombings? Or someone you knew? The effects those bombs caused remained even after the war.

[Flaming Lea]

Would you be saying that if your ancestors were killed in either of those bombings? Or someone you knew? The effects those bombs caused remained even after the war.

Lets put it this way.Japan entered the war and killed thousands upon thousands of innocents for the sake of Imperialization joining up with Mussolini and Hitler to "cleanse' the world of people they deemed unfit ..They also given the chance wouldve done the same to Australia as well.. Japan also had some type of inspirations of being "Gods" and that the world was for their taking .Their mindset was they were unstoppable and were willing to commit any atrocity to obtain their goals.Do some research and educate yourself before you try to argue a case of the Japanese being the poor victims. They brought this on themselves and they paid a dear price

[Sora96]

Lets put it this way.Japan entered the war and killed thousands upon thousands of innocents for the sake of Imperialization joining up with Mussolini and Hitler to "cleanse' the world of people they deemed unfit ..They also given the chance wouldve done the same to Australia as well.. Japan also had some type of inspirations of being "Gods" and that the world was for their taking .Their mindset was they were unstoppable and were willing to commit any atrocity to obtain their goals.Do some research and educate yourself before you try to argue a case of the Japanese being the poor victims. They brought this on themselves and they paid a dear price

I don't need to do research. I've had great teachers. Some of the Japanese were "poor victims". Japan started their attack on the rest of Asia after their military took over.

[Flaming Lea]

I don't need to do research. I've had great teachers. Some of the Japanese were "poor victims". Japan started their attack on the rest of Asia after their military took over.

Of course theres some innocent civilians.. But the large majority of Japan supported their part in entering the war and the murder of innocent. When a country wages war there will be casualties .Its expected. If you had such great teachers you would know what the countries attitude towards the cruel murder of millions of innocent people across the world for the sake of imperialization purposes.You are trying to act like America was the bad guy for coming into a war and preventing even further INNOCENT deaths and straight out MURDER of people who were truly the innocent.Japan made a CHOICE ..Those innocent people murdered for the sake of Japan and the other AXIS powers obtaining world domination is unexcusable. Also you refuse to address my point of the Axis powers racing the Allies to be the first to use the Atomic bombs in the first place..its unfortunate that people died in Japan no doubt.But if it wasnt for that event it couldve been the whole world ..You obviously need to research this more bc you either dont know this information or you are just trying validate the mass murder of millions across the world .

[Sora96]

Of course theres some innocent civilians.. But the large majority of Japan supported their part in entering the war and the murder of innocent. When a country wages war there will be casualties .Its expected. If you had such great teachers you would know what the countries attitude towards the cruel murder of millions of innocent people across the world for the sake of imperialization purposes.You are trying to act like America was the bad guy for coming into a war and preventing even further INNOCENT deaths and straight out MURDER of people who were truly the innocent.Japan made a CHOICE ..Those innocent people murdered for the sake of Japan and the other AXIS powers obtaining world domination is unexcusable. Also you refuse to address my point of the Axis powers racing the Allies to be the first to use the Atomic bombs in the first place..its unfortunate that people died in Japan no doubt.But if it wasnt for that event it couldve been the whole world ..You obviously need to research this more bc you either dont know this information or you are just trying validate the mass murder of millions across the world .

You could write better. And I never said "America was the bad guy". Never even wrote "America" on this thread until now. Lol. I've just mentioning one massive event in the war which ruined Japan for decades. The scars of those bombs still stand today. And you've been saying Japan was a heartless country of monsters when it was the god dam military who started it.

[Flaming Lea]

You could write better. And I never said "America was the bad guy". Never even wrote "America" on this thread until now. Lol. I've just mentioning one massive event in the war which ruined Japan for decades. The scars of those bombs still stand today. And you've been saying Japan was a heartless country of monsters when it was the god dam military who started it.

I could write better ? Thats ignorant to say .You must not have much else to say that you are attacking my 'writing".Please, it just makes you look uninformed and implies you have nothing better to say. This isnt English class. However what im writing is pretty clear and understandable so try again .You will excuse the murder of millions across the world but cry over the price a country paid for their part in it .Think about that before you spout ignorance. Mass genocide for the sake of world dominance isnt ok no matter what you say. The scars of the familes of the murdered will forever haunt those countries.If you cant understand why im offended by your cavalier attitude towards the fact that those MILLIONS of innocent were murdered bc of a few countries on a power trip, its sad.. Also it was YOU that brought up America and said the way we went about it was wrong..

[Sora96]

I could write better ? Thats ignorant to say .You must not have much else to say that you are attacking my 'writing".Please, it just makes you look uninformed and implies you have nothing better to say. This isnt English class. However what im writing is pretty clear and understandable so try again .You will excuse the murder of millions across the world but cry over the price a country paid for their part in it .Think about that before you spout ignorance. Mass genocide for the sake of world dominance isnt ok no matter what you say. The scars of the familes of the murdered will forever haunt those countries.If you cant understand why im offended by your cavalier attitude towards the fact that those MILLIONS of innocent were murdered bc of a few countries on a power trip, its sad..

I don't excuse murder. What made you think I would for a second?

[Flaming Lea]

I don't excuse murder. What made you think I would for a second?

Lets see..Could it be that you keep saying that it was America that was wrong for bombing two cities in a country that helped murder millions across the world for the sole purpose of obtaining world domination?..You act like they were some poor victims we bullied..They came over to our country and bombed and killed how many innocent people.They helped kill millions more elsewhere in the world .They joined Hitler and Mussolini in mass genocide and you are crying 'poor japan'.I feel for innocent civilians in Japan .But their government brought this on and their civilian population supported this.Watch some of the documentaries featuring surviving japanese civilians.They even discussed the attitude the civilians had about the war they were in .They discussed how they had thought of themselves as 'Gods" whose empire was destined to inherit the world. Thats why a large part of them supported the governments bid for world power and were willing to risk whatever to do so..They knew they were wrong.Despite all of that , it was America who came and helped rebuild Japan..

[Sora96]

Lets see..Could it be that you keep saying that it was America that was wrong for bombing two cities in a country that helped murder millions across the world for the sole purpose of obtaining world domination?..You act like they were some poor victims we bullied..They came over to our country and bombed and killed how many innocent people.They helped kill millions more elsewhere in the world .They joined Hitler and Mussolini in mass genocide and you are crying 'poor japan'.I feel for innocent civilians in Japan .But their government brought this on and their civilian population supported this.Watch some of the documentaries featuring surviving japanese civilians.They even discussed the attitude the civilians had about the war they were in .They discussed how they had thought of themselves as 'Gods" whose empire was destined to inherit the world. Thats why a large part of them supported the governments bid for world power and were willing to risk whatever to do so..They knew they were wrong.Despite all of that , it was America who came and helped rebuild Japan..

The Japanese government was overthrown by the military.

[Flaming Lea]

The Japanese government was overthrown by the military.

Whats this got to do with the fact that they were still aiming for world domination and the civilian population SUPPORTED this? If you are going to ignore the points i make bc you have no answer then we are done talking. You still havent addressed the fact that they were working with the Axis powers on their own atomic bombs.

[Sora96]

Whats this got to do with the fact that they were still aiming for world domination and the civilian population SUPPORTED this? If you are going to ignore the points i make bc you have no answer then we are done talking. You still havent addressed the fact that they were working with the Axis powers on their own atomic bombs.

But their government brought this

You can't do something if your dead.

And working on something doesn't mean it's going to be finished or even done/used.

[Flaming Lea]

You can't do something if your dead.

And working on something doesn't mean it's going to be finished or even done/used.

They were working on it so they could use it .We just finished it first .Try again ..You have not provided any reasonable arguement to support carrying this discussion on. Try watching the documentaries featuring interviews with surviving japanese civilians and then one day we can carry on a productive discussion on this. They discuss thoroughly the stance the Japanese military, government , and civilians had on what was going on straight from the horses mouth. It will broaden your horizons.

[Sora96]

They were working on it so they could use it .We just finished it first .Try again ..You have not provided any reasonable arguement to support carrying this discussion on. Try watching the documentaries featuring interviews with surviving japanese civilians and then one day we can carry on a productive discussion on this. They discuss thoroughly the stance the Japanese military, government , and civilians had on what was going on straight from the horses mouth. It will broaden your horizons.

My horizons are fine. I do live in the Asian Pacific. Oh, and by the way. What's your source?

[Flaming Lea]

My horizons are fine. I do live in the Asian Pacific. Oh, and by the way. What's your source?

Obviously yours arent or you wouldnt be saying half the stuff you did..And besides classes in college,and the several documentaries ive watched over the years where they interviewed japanese survivors themselves which im sure you can find everywhere since its not top secret knowledge XD Oh and lets not forget my grandfather who served as a chaplain in the AF in WW2 ..I think watching interviews with the japanese survivors themselves speaks volumns more than anything.Living in Australia doesnt make you informed . Like i said, please go watch interviews with the surviving japanese. They are easily accessable. Im not going to go in circles with someone who refuses to address simple points and still tries to validate the fact that they brought themselves into the war for power and domination at all costs

[Sora96]

Obviously yours arent or you wouldnt be saying half the stuff you did..And besides classes in college,and the several documentaries ive watched over the years where they interviewed japanese survivors themselves which im sure you can find everywhere since its not top secret knowledge XD Oh and lets not forget my grandfather who served as a chaplain in the AF in WW2 ..I think watching interviews with the japanese survivors themselves speaks volumns more than anything.Living in Australia doesnt make you informed . Like i said, please go watch interviews with the surviving japanese. They are easily accessable. Im not going to go in circles with someone who refuses to address simple points and still tries to validate the fact that they brought themselves into the war for power and domination at all costs

I could do what your doing. Say: Go watch some documentaries and interviews. Millions of those mate. It doesn't mean much to say all that. Does it?

But anyway to conclude this pointless off-topic discussion.

AUSTRALIA FTW!
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS FTW!
NORTH MELBOURNE KANGAROOS FTW!

Concluded.

[Flaming Lea]

I could do what your doing. Say: Go watch some documentaries and interviews. Millions of those mate. It doesn't mean much to say all that. Does it?

But anyway to conclude this pointless off-topic discussion.

AUSTRALIA FTW!
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS FTW!
NORTH MELBOURNE KANGAROOS FTW!

Concluded.

LOL bc it would prove you wrong..Doesnt surprise me you dont want to go research these interviews.. ( after all my college professors dont know anything and my grandfather who served didnt either ..Right ) Once again a response from someone afraid to be proven wrong..But carry on ....After all its off topic..LOL Good night

[Sora96]

LOL bc it would prove you wrong..Doesnt surprise me you dont want to go research these interviews.. ( after all my college professors dont know anything and my grandfather who served didnt either ..Right ) Once again a response from someone afraid to be proven wrong..But carry on ....After all its off topic..LOL Good night

Research what interviews? Seriously. My Japanese College teacher told me what happened.

[Flaming Lea]

Research what interviews? Seriously. My Japanese College teacher told me what happened.

thats about as believable as the japanese were innocent bystanders in WW2.. im done here ..Talking in circles is getting us nowhere