"Darkness will become light, Light will fall into darkness"

As the release date draws ever closer Tetsuya Nomura has seen fit to taunt us with cryptic sayings. This simple phrase has plunged the entire fanbase deeper into speculation. Theories like the fall of Disney Castle, Riku mysterious desiding to go against the pledge he made in Chain of Memories and embrace light, or even the Lightside Posterboy himself somehow becoming a villain. Upon some contemplation I came to another conclusion. If in fact this line were to refer to characters in the series, then this is a more likely scenario. I just thought of this idea so forgive me for not having put as much research into it as my other theories. I may look deeper into it as time goes on and more information becomes available.

 

Darkness will become Light:

If you read my other theory (Xehanort's Grand Scheme), I stated that Xehanort and Terra are now separated due to Xehanort's splitting himself. As a result of this Terra's conciousness is left floating around without a home. Sooner or later he will regain a new body, by whatever means Nomura sees fit.

If you have played Terra's story you can tell how much he hates his darkness. Xehanort used Terra's darkness to gain control of his body, but as you can see throughout the final chapter, Terra radiates with a light far brighter than anything else seen in that game. He also helps Aqua in her battle against Final Terranort.

My guess is that when Terra gains a solid form again he is going to be a Juggernaut of Light-Infused Power. What role he will play in KH3D I can't say because there isnt enough information to form a theory. My guess is he will most likely "Reform" at the end of the game.

 

In Contrast

Light will fall into Darkness:

Something that was stated a few minutes ago on this forum snapped this thought into my head. Aqua. Aqua was by far the most rediculously broken playable character in the series so far. Which is saying something, because I have played as Mickey. Ventus' battles with Vanitas were nightmareish. Yet every time she battled him she beat Vanitas soundly into the ground with little effort.

Vanitas spoke of Aqua as an alternative route for forging the Kye-Blade. She has been a resounding, unmovable force of light since she was introduced, and thus far is the only playable character to assume the mantle of Master.

Now I know a few people are thinking "But Rob, you are constantly preaching about Sora being unable to fall to the darkness because he is so strong in the light. What makes Aqua any different?" The answer is simple. One word, turmoil. When Sora sees his friends in danger, or sees a world fall to darkness his mind has one thought. "Charge forward and beat the badguy in the head with my shiny key until the darkness stops and I get friends back." Aqua on the other hand dwells on it. She worries about their safety, mourns the loss of a world and doubts her own power to stop the spread of darkness.

At the end of the game Aqua manages to stop Terranort and send him back to Radiant Garden as she fades slowly into the Realm of Darkness. The game ends with her nearly giving up as she wanders the darkness, she is narrowly saved by a thought of her friends, and pushes forward in an attempt to find her way home. Over 10 years have passed since that day. 10 years of wandering in darkness, her only company, the heartless who live within the realm. I suspect Aqua, by now or during the events of KH3D, will have fallen into Darkness, and most likely gained considerable ability over its use.

Gamers have seen this scenario before with the Queen of Blades herself Sarah Kerrigan. I wont go into the details of the Starcraft storyline as I am sure most people are familiar with it. But Kerrigan was left to rot on a world overrun by Zerg. A short time later she returned commanding the Swarm herself.

Should this theory prove true, then Aqua will not only fall to darkness. But she is more than likely the final boss of Birth by Sleep Volume 2

I definitely can't say how this may turn out, but I think you have interesting ideas to say the least.

I think Kairi will be the one to fall to Darkness.

 

Kidding. Kidding! But wouldn't that be interesting?

 

Well, I like your theory, but I don't know how likely it is to be true. I don't see Terra becoming pure Light since he had Darkness in his heart. Unless you're saying when they split, Xehanort got both of their Darkness and Terra got all the Light. Still, we need more evidence before we can even ponder this. We still don't know what part of the Xehanorts are Terra, and what's just Xehanort.

 

I can understand and agree with your Aqua theory to a point. I definitely don't think she'll be the final boss in the possible BbSV2. I don't think she'd fall that much. And if the game exists, we'll probably be playing her.

 

And Nomura said in an interview that Aqua was designed so she'd seem unimportant at first, but rise to be the true hero of BbS. And Ansem commented how alike Sora and her are. If that's the case, I can't see her falling to Darkness easily.

 

I do like your theory though, and it could be possible. We just need more info. LOL.

I think Kairi will be the one to fall to Darkness.

 

Kidding. Kidding! But wouldn't that be interesting?

 

Well, I like your theory, but I don't know how likely it is to be true. I don't see Terra becoming pure Light since he had Darkness in his heart. Unless you're saying when they split, Xehanort got both of their Darkness and Terra got all the Light. Still, we need more evidence before we can even ponder this. We still don't know what part of the Xehanorts are Terra, and what's just Xehanort.

 

I can understand and agree with your Aqua theory to a point. I definitely don't think she'll be the final boss in the possible BbSV2. I don't think she'd fall that much. And if the game exists, we'll probably be playing her.

 

And Nomura said in an interview that Aqua was designed so she'd seem unimportant at first, but rise to be the true hero of BbS. And Ansem commented how alike Sora and her are. If that's the case, I can't see her falling to Darkness easily.

 

I do like your theory though, and it could be possible. We just need more info. LOL.

 

I agree for the most part, and like I said, this theory is incomplete due to lack of information. However I will at least respond to what I can.

Unlike Riku, Terra's adventure was a fight against his inner darkness. He hated himself for having it, yet was constantly being goaded into useing it. Terra inevitably is taken over by Xehanort. But as you can see, in the few cutscenes that take place within Terranort, Terra begins to resist, and every time he is seen for the remainder of the game he has a brilliant glowing aura. He even uses this light to help Aqua in the final battle. The difference between Terra and Riku is, Terra fights to overcome his darkness and be rid of it, Riku embraces it and vows to use it as a weapon to protect people. So Terra is far more likely to become a light based character.

 

As for Aqua, again stating that there is not enough info for solid conclusions. 10 years is a LONG time. 10 years surrounded by nothing but darkness is even longer. To think that she will make it out of there in the same condition she was at the end of BBS is just silly. Aqua's skills are far superior to that of the other two BBS protagonists, there is really no contesting that, just play the game for like 5 seconds. Those natural skills, her terrifying mastery of magic, and 10 years immersed in darkness would make her into the perfect final boss for BBSv2. There is no real rule that states that a final boss has to die. If Ven and Terra can defeat the darkness that has taken her over she can still return as a protagonist in KH3. As long as they dont let Sora fight her, there is absolutly no reason why she cant turn evil for one game and then return because of the bonds with her friends.

Yeah, I definitely don't see Aqua turning dark or being a boss in BbSV2. We're going to be playing as her. At least, that's the vibe I got. I can't see her becoming dark at all... I guess that's how people feel when I say Sora will somehow have a little darkness to em

 

As for Terra... I can see him playing a big role, but of course Sora always being the true hero. I honestly think they'll ALL (Meaning Terra, Aqua, Ven, Namime, Xion, Kairi and everyone else) play a huge part in KH3. Sora is gonna need all the help he can get!

Yeah, I definitely don't see Aqua turning dark or being a boss in BbSV2. We're going to be playing as her. At least, that's the vibe I got. I can't see her becoming dark at all... I guess that's how people feel when I say Sora will somehow have a little darkness to em

 

As for Terra... I can see him playing a big role, but of course Sora always being the true hero. I honestly think they'll ALL (Meaning Terra, Aqua, Ven, Namime, Xion, Kairi and everyone else) play a huge part in KH3. Sora is gonna need all the help he can get!

 

I agree, and I expect them all to be active protagonists in KH3. Like I said in my reply to DenizenofTwilight, just because she falls, doesnt mean she can't stand back up. The thing that made Aqua Ven and Terra so special is that their bond with each other was so strong that they will all inevitably return from their gruesome fates. Now while for Ven it may be as simple as taking a visit to Castle Oblivion, I think Aqua's redemption is going to be much harder than simply opening the door to darkness and inviting her over for tea. I am willing to bet it takes both Terra and Ventus to stop her rampage and bring her back from the clutches of the darkness that holds her.

 

Aqua frankly shatters the rule for video game protagonists. She is way stronger than any other character we have seen in this series so far. Even Vanitas who I am pretty sure is going to be the new main villain after KH3, got beat into the ground like he was nothing by Aqua. She has been surrounded by nothing but monsters and darkness for TEN YEARS. For Nomura not to take advantage of this situation would not do the character any justice.

I agree, and I expect them all to be active protagonists in KH3. Like I said in my reply to DenizenofTwilight, just because she falls, doesnt mean she can't stand back up. The thing that made Aqua Ven and Terra so special is that their bond with each other was so strong that they will all inevitably return from their gruesome fates. Now while for Ven it may be as simple as taking a visit to Castle Oblivion, I think Aqua's redemption is going to be much harder than simply opening the door to darkness and inviting her over for tea. I am willing to bet it takes both Terra and Ventus to stop her rampage and bring her back from the clutches of the darkness that holds her.

 

Aqua frankly shatters the rule for video game protagonists. She is way stronger than any other character we have seen in this series so far. Even Vanitas who I am pretty sure is going to be the new main villain after KH3, got beat into the ground like he was nothing by Aqua. She has been surrounded by nothing but monsters and darkness for TEN YEARS. For Nomura not to take advantage of this situation would not do the character any justice.

 

BbSV2 and KH3 could have so many different sides to it. We really have no idea what's going to happen. That's what I love about this game. It isn't predictable like most other games are. Nomura really knows how to throw in twists, turns and major surprises. It's amazing.

 

But yeah, we all have our theories. But of course we all like ours the best lol I still love the idea of Sora somehow, someway getting a little darkness for himself. And same with your theory with Aqua, I said Sora, even if he fell to darkness for a little bit,he's obviously gonna get out of it because he is the hero of the game. It's not like I'm saying he's gonna be the next Vanitas and stay like that lol Just that he might fall to the darkness or it'll somehow capture him and then he'll rid of it. Just like another little part to his journey. Resisting and ridding of his new found darkness he didn't know he had.

 

BbSV2 and KH3 could have so many different sides to it. We really have no idea what's going to happen. That's what I love about this game. It isn't predictable like most other games are. Nomura really knows how to throw in twists, turns and major surprises. It's amazing.

 

But yeah, we all have our theories. But of course we all like ours the best lol I still love the idea of Sora somehow, someway getting a little darkness for himself. And same with your theory with Aqua, I said Sora, even if he fell to darkness for a little bit,he's obviously gonna get out of it because he is the hero of the game. It's not like I'm saying he's gonna be the next Vanitas and stay like that lol Just that he might fall to the darkness or it'll somehow capture him and then he'll rid of it. Just like another little part to his journey. Resisting and ridding of his new found darkness he didn't know he had.

 

I know you are fond of the idea of Sora with Darkness, but the problem with your theory lies within the character himself. Its not a matter of is he immune to darkness, or is he too light. It lies within the very foundations of the characters design. Sora is very narrow minded. He sees the world in black and white. To him light is good and dark is evil. He was the chosen weilder of the keyblade, chosen to stop the spreading darkness. Frankly he is a kid who thinks he is a super hero. He has an unwavering belief that darkness is the enemy and he needs to destroy the darkness. This is why every single less-than-light person he has encountered was slain. To be completely honest, if Sora ever found darkness in himself he would probably kill himself.

This is why Riku's character exists. Riku is supposed to represent a balance between Light and Darkness in contrast to Sora's rather extreme way of seeing things. He walks a darker, less sheltered path than Sora does. These are basic building blocks for the character, these form the foundation of their being. If you were to remove this foundation, the building would crumble, Sora would no longer be Sora.

I agree for the most part, and like I said, this theory is incomplete due to lack of information. However I will at least respond to what I can.

Unlike Riku, Terra's adventure was a fight against his inner darkness. He hated himself for having it, yet was constantly being goaded into useing it. Terra inevitably is taken over by Xehanort. But as you can see, in the few cutscenes that take place within Terranort, Terra begins to resist, and every time he is seen for the remainder of the game he has a brilliant glowing aura. He even uses this light to help Aqua in the final battle. The difference between Terra and Riku is, Terra fights to overcome his darkness and be rid of it, Riku embraces it and vows to use it as a weapon to protect people. So Terra is far more likely to become a light based character.

 

As for Aqua, again stating that there is not enough info for solid conclusions. 10 years is a LONG time. 10 years surrounded by nothing but darkness is even longer. To think that she will make it out of there in the same condition she was at the end of BBS is just silly. Aqua's skills are far superior to that of the other two BBS protagonists, there is really no contesting that, just play the game for like 5 seconds. Those natural skills, her terrifying mastery of magic, and 10 years immersed in darkness would make her into the perfect final boss for BBSv2. There is no real rule that states that a final boss has to die. If Ven and Terra can defeat the darkness that has taken her over she can still return as a protagonist in KH3. As long as they dont let Sora fight her, there is absolutly no reason why she cant turn evil for one game and then return because of the bonds with her friends.

 

I see your side better now, and I'm really starting to agree. LOL. But I think it would be difficult for Terra to become pure Light (arguably, we only known that the Princesses are pure Light), but ten years is a long time...

 

Hmm... in some ways I think Terra embraced the Darkness more than Riku. Because he thought it would make him storng. Riku, however, learned to control his.

 

But what I don't get about BbS is that everyone was on about Terra's Darkness, but he didn't even really use any until his fight with Eraqus. It's rather odd. But I could see how he'd go Light.

 

And I definitely agree with Aqua now. Whether it will happen I don't know, but the Darkness was starting to ware her down. I just thought it odd that she might be the final boss when will undoubtedly play her most of the game, but it's possible.

Yeah, I definitely don't see Aqua turning dark or being a boss in BbSV2. We're going to be playing as her. At least, that's the vibe I got. I can't see her becoming dark at all... I guess that's how people feel when I say Sora will somehow have a little darkness to em

 

As for Terra... I can see him playing a big role, but of course Sora always being the true hero. I honestly think they'll ALL (Meaning Terra, Aqua, Ven, Namime, Xion, Kairi and everyone else) play a huge part in KH3. Sora is gonna need all the help he can get!

 

And Axel. LOL.

 

And I definitely agree with Aqua now. Whether it will happen I don't know, but the Darkness was starting to ware her down. I just thought it odd that she might be the final boss when will undoubtedly play her most of the game, but it's possible.

 

Thats the thing, I DONT think we WILL play as Aqua for most of the game. I think most of the game will be spent trying to stop her and bring her back. Aqua's faith in her friends is what will undoubtedly bring her back, but I dont think she will be as easy to recover as Ventus.

while I admit that Sora is basically on a one track mind when it comes to light and darkness, i think he has shown at least one sign of wavering from that: the ending scene of KHII. in the cutscenes titled "A Letter," Sora states "you know, maybe the darkness has gotten to me too." and when Riku says "if the world is made of light and darkness, we'll be the darkness," Sora settles and agrees with that, admitting that he knows the other protagonists are on the light side, ready to protect that side as needed. i don't mean to start an argument, i'm just stating an opinion, and backing it with evidence.

'"Charge forward and beat the badguy in the head with my shiny key until the darkness stops and I get friends back."' ROFTL Vorian Rob, I love you. That was hilarious. Your theory makes perfect sense to me. I knew nearly everything you were saying about Sora (yes, I stalk him that much) so I wasn't surprised and agreed to what you said. The 'Aqua dwells' part never dawned on me though. And it makes perfect sense. The only thing I don't agree on is Aqua being the final boss in BBSv2. My strong belief is that we will play as Aqua in BBSv2 and that the game will be, in a sense, told in retrospective. Dating from the time after the end of BBS to after Re:coded where Aqua meets Ansem. Hence, the scenes in the BBSFM where you see

 

a) Kairi running to wake a sleeping Sora on Destiny Islands.

b ) Mickey in the Realm of Darkness with the Star Seeker.

c) Riku and Kairi on Neverland.

d) Donald and Goofy arriving in Traverse Town for the first time.

e) Kairi, Hayner, Pence and Olette in front of the Old Mansion in Twilight Town.

f) DiZ encoding data into a dormant Sora.

g) A blindfolded Riku watching Roxas and Xion in Twilight Town.

h) A young Xehanort on Destiny Islands.

 

There we go. I'm done with my ranting and listing.

Thats the thing, I DONT think we WILL play as Aqua for most of the game. I think most of the game will be spent trying to stop her and bring her back. Aqua's faith in her friends is what will undoubtedly bring her back, but I dont think she will be as easy to recover as Ventus.

 

Yeah, but since the Secret Episode is supposed to be a preview for the mystery game, it gives the impression that we will be playing her. And though I'd like to play Riku, Mickey, and Kairi like people theorized, the only person we're even remotely sure we'll play is Aqua. Until we know otherwise, I don't think you can say we might not play her that much.

'"Charge forward and beat the badguy in the head with my shiny key until the darkness stops and I get friends back."' ROFTL Vorian Rob, I love you. That was hilarious. Your theory makes perfect sense to me. I knew nearly everything you were saying about Sora (yes, I stalk him that much) so I wasn't surprised and agreed to what you said. The 'Aqua dwells' part never dawned on me though. And it makes perfect sense. The only thing I don't agree on is Aqua being the final boss in BBSv2. My strong belief is that we will play as Aqua in BBSv2 and that the game will be, in a sense, told in retrospective. Dating from the time after the end of BBS to after Re:coded where Aqua meets Ansem. Hence, the scenes in the BBSFM where you see

 

a) Kairi running to wake a sleeping Sora on Destiny Islands.

b ) Mickey in the Realm of Darkness with the Star Seeker.

c) Riku and Kairi on Neverland.

d) Donald and Goofy arriving in Traverse Town for the first time.

e) Kairi, Hayner, Pence and Olette in front of the Old Mansion in Twilight Town.

f) DiZ encoding data into a dormant Sora.

g) A blindfolded Riku watching Roxas and Xion in Twilight Town.

h) A young Xehanort on Destiny Islands.

 

There we go. I'm done with my ranting and listing.

 

It is obviously too soon to make big assumptions about BBSv2. But if it were me writing the series, I would use Dream Drop Distance to save at least one of the BBS protagonists and prepare Sora, Kairi, and Riku for KH3. Then use BBSv2 to prepare save whichever BBS characters werent freed in DDD and then use the game to prepare Ventus Terra and Aqua for their role in KH3 as well.

 

Yeah, but since the Secret Episode is supposed to be a preview for the mystery game, it gives the impression that we will be playing her. And though I'd like to play Riku, Mickey, and Kairi like people theorized, the only person we're even remotely sure we'll play is Aqua. Until we know otherwise, I don't think you can say we might not play her that much.

 

I have seen the scene you are speaking of. And what it showed was Aqua finding Cinderella's(I think) Castle in the realm of darkness, but what we dont know is at what point over the past 10 years this scene took place. For all we know this will simply be a memory she tells later.

 

I have seen the scene you are speaking of. And what it showed was Aqua finding Cinderella's(I think) Castle in the realm of darkness, but what we dont know is at what point over the past 10 years this scene took place. For all we know this will simply be a memory she tells later.

 

True. But I was referring to the actual gameplay in the RoD. LOL. Like when she fights Red Eyes or whatever we call that thing.

I'm replaying KH2 (actually, the FM) and right after when Kairi uses the keyblade and stuff, Riku tells Sora that maybe he's not ready for the darkness yet. So, yeah... Sora's gonna go darkness in this one

 

Yeah, but since the Secret Episode is supposed to be a preview for the mystery game, it gives the impression that we will be playing her. And though I'd like to play Riku, Mickey, and Kairi like people theorized, the only person we're even remotely sure we'll play is Aqua. Until we know otherwise, I don't think you can say we might not play her that much.

 

Even if she does end up falling, simply by making her story manditory to be played first, they can start her story at any point over the past 10 years. By doing this you could litterally play as Aqua and watch her as she fades into darkness. Her story would end with her finally giving up, or even allow you to play for a little while as Dark Aqua. From there you would pick up as Ven who was recently reawakened by Sora and Riku in DDD. Ventus' story would focus mostly around rescuing Terra. Terra's story would lead both of the boys through their search for Aqua only to find she has given in to the Darkness. Terra who has already defeated his own darkness, and Ven will then have to try to stop her and bring her back.

 

Either that or Xehanort will steep them all in darkness, like a banana in chocolate fondue. And use them as dark puppets to try and kill Sora and Riku.

 

that last part was a joke. http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/sleep.png

Um IF they release khbbsv2 we will play as Aqua. So IF we play as Aqua...How are we gong to be the lastboss of the game...Kill or selves?

Um IF they release khbbsv2 we will play as Aqua. So IF we play as Aqua...How are we gong to be the lastboss of the game...Kill or selves?

 

did you even read the thread? I have answered that question 3 times. Also there is no guarantee that Aqua will be playable.

Also this topic was about her falling to darkness during her decade in the Realm of Darkness. Not about her being the final boss.

did you even read the thread? I have answered that question 3 times. Also there is no guarantee that Aqua will be playable.

Also this topic was about her falling to darkness during her decade in the Realm of Darkness. Not about her being the final boss.

 

Okay calm down i wasnt trying to be mean or something....

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The idea of a Dark Aqua seems so odd, but so epic at the same time. If it does happen, I don't think I would have any complaints.