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Will Kingdom Hearts 3 trailer constitute as spoilers?


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#1 xXMikey1stXx

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 10:59 PM

Hear me out. With KH3 releasing this year, I can understand spoilers for worlds can be quite touchy, and possibly story leaks. But what about trailers that's been showed by square enix? People getting mad at leaks is one thing, but trailers shown by square enix is another. Not to mention the fact that all world's will be released through the media (trailers and interviews). Alot of fans don't wanna see them most of them because they want the joy of discovery. To simplify, how will kingdom hearts community react when all of the world's are revealed officially. I know it's silly to ask, but it's something I be interested in having healthy discussion about.

#2 Merilly

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 11:39 PM

Of course they are spoilers, but I don't think anyone is going to be mad talking about them or showing the public more of the game. People aren't even angry if others talk about leaks. The only thing which is annoying is when they're not marked as such because those who do not wish to be spoiled have to fear to encounter spoilers in a more or less harmless thread.

In the past, trailers have been displayed on the front page without any issues because it was up to the person if they wanted to watch it or not. And I think information provided by an official source should still be provided since it is news and what a lot of people visit the front page for.

Quite frankly, if someone wishes to remain entirely unspoiled it may not be a good idea to roam around a forum revolving around the franchise in question. I totally understand the desire to experience the game without having seen anything beforehand, but in these times, that's getting increasingly hard with all the media.
Back when 2.8 came out, my Youtube recommendations were flooded by playthroughs because YT recommends videos which fit my interests. And even though the people who played it didn't want to spoil anyone, it still happened. Not to mention Tumblr, Twitter and all these other websites.

To be honest, the only time I've ever seen fans getting angry was when they were spoiled in a thread which had nothing to do with it and wasn't clearly marked. And I think that's a fair reason because otherwise, you can't even browse the internet anymore without getting undesired spoilers. But all in all, this is also a website dealing with news of all kind and collecting them,which I am grateful for because otherwise we had to accumulate the information from various sources on our own.

In the end, if I don't want any spoilers whatsoever, I'd avoid websites which will very likely offer them to those who want them. Especially trailers are necessary to promote the game to those who are not sure whether they're going to buy it since not everyone is that big of a fan of the series but more casually interested. One can argue about the decision to reveal so much beforehand but that's not for us to decide and it's impossible to suit everyone's taste anyway.

In the end, the community is probably going to react like always. Some will be hyped, some will be neutral and others wish they wouldn't reveal so much. And most people will have good arguments supporting their opinion, though it's up to yourself how you treat news in the coming year.

Edited by Merilly, 02 January 2018 - 11:42 PM.


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Posted 03 January 2018 - 05:57 PM

Thats really a personal issue. I don't see trailers as spoilers. Most trailers are trying to mislead you of what is actually happen. 
And I believe they never gave a way of the story in trailers. But some people really want the worlds to be a surprise.

For me I definitely will watch the trailers. But when the games gets released I try to avoid the forum and youtube for a while. 
Not that it will help since everything I like youtube throws me every single video of it in my face. 



#4 The Transcendent Key

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 08:53 PM

Of course they are spoilers, but I don't think anyone is going to be mad talking about them or showing the public more of the game. People aren't even angry if others talk about leaks. The only thing which is annoying is when they're not marked as such because those who do not wish to be spoiled have to fear to encounter spoilers in a more or less harmless thread.

In the past, trailers have been displayed on the front page without any issues because it was up to the person if they wanted to watch it or not. And I think information provided by an official source should still be provided since it is news and what a lot of people visit the front page for.

Quite frankly, if someone wishes to remain entirely unspoiled it may not be a good idea to roam around a forum revolving around the franchise in question. I totally understand the desire to experience the game without having seen anything beforehand, but in these times, that's getting increasingly hard with all the media.
Back when 2.8 came out, my Youtube recommendations were flooded by playthroughs because YT recommends videos which fit my interests. And even though the people who played it didn't want to spoil anyone, it still happened. Not to mention Tumblr, Twitter and all these other websites.

To be honest, the only time I've ever seen fans getting angry was when they were spoiled in a thread which had nothing to do with it and wasn't clearly marked. And I think that's a fair reason because otherwise, you can't even browse the internet anymore without getting undesired spoilers. But all in all, this is also a website dealing with news of all kind and collecting them,which I am grateful for because otherwise we had to accumulate the information from various sources on our own.

In the end, if I don't want any spoilers whatsoever, I'd avoid websites which will very likely offer them to those who want them. Especially trailers are necessary to promote the game to those who are not sure whether they're going to buy it since not everyone is that big of a fan of the series but more casually interested. One can argue about the decision to reveal so much beforehand but that's not for us to decide and it's impossible to suit everyone's taste anyway.

In the end, the community is probably going to react like always. Some will be hyped, some will be neutral and others wish they wouldn't reveal so much. And most people will have good arguments supporting their opinion, though it's up to yourself how you treat news in the coming year.

 

Exactly this! I believe that in the end, the fact of a person spoiling themselves is completely up to them, but personally, I see trailers more of a hype up device than not, and to me, they don't ruin what will be my experience with the game when I finally have it in my hands! What would kill my joy is if someone outright spoils every detail of the story if they've played the game ahead of everyone else, ya know? That I would consider heavy spoiling, and I'm very good at avoiding spoilers, so I hope I can avoid KHIII's spoilers just as much! But I will watch the trailers simply for the hype up of it all. :)

 

Thats really a personal issue. I don't see trailers as spoilers. Most trailers are trying to mislead you of what is actually happen. 
And I believe they never gave a way of the story in trailers. But some people really want the worlds to be a surprise.

For me I definitely will watch the trailers. But when the games gets released I try to avoid the forum and youtube for a while. 
Not that it will help since everything I like youtube throws me every single video of it in my face. 

 

You know, that's actually pretty true! For instance, one trailer of The Last Jedi made it look as if Rey was going to kill Luke Skywalker, but it didn't end up happening, so that's a good example of trailers making viewers think of something when something else will actually happen!



#5 Merilly

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Posted 05 January 2018 - 07:15 PM

Exactly this! I believe that in the end, the fact of a person spoiling themselves is completely up to them, but personally, I see trailers more of a hype up device than not, and to me, they don't ruin what will be my experience with the game when I finally have it in my hands! What would kill my joy is if someone outright spoils every detail of the story if they've played the game ahead of everyone else, ya know? That I would consider heavy spoiling, and I'm very good at avoiding spoilers, so I hope I can avoid KHIII's spoilers just as much! But I will watch the trailers simply for the hype up of it all. :)
 

 
You know, that's actually pretty true! For instance, one trailer of The Last Jedi made it look as if Rey was going to kill Luke Skywalker, but it didn't end up happening, so that's a good example of trailers making viewers think of something when something else will actually happen!


I also think trailers only add to the hype. SE in particular is rather good at making trailers without revealing anything concrete. Up until the release of FFXV, I hardly knew what the game was even about except the crystal and a ring. And we had multiple trailers and even more than one demo.
Yeah, I'm not worried about trailers spoiling anything substantial. Of course I won't tell people how much they should watch spoilers or how they would like to experience the game, but personally, the amount of footage we got is alright for a game that's said to be massive. I just don't want to see Olympus Coliseum avain in terms of showcasing the world because I feel like we've really seen enough of it at this point in comparison to other worlds.

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Posted 06 January 2018 - 07:41 PM

I also think trailers only add to the hype. SE in particular is rather good at making trailers without revealing anything concrete. Up until the release of FFXV, I hardly knew what the game was even about except the crystal and a ring. And we had multiple trailers and even more than one demo.
Yeah, I'm not worried about trailers spoiling anything substantial. Of course I won't tell people how much they should watch spoilers or how they would like to experience the game, but personally, the amount of footage we got is alright for a game that's said to be massive. I just don't want to see Olympus Coliseum avain in terms of showcasing the world because I feel like we've really seen enough of it at this point in comparison to other worlds.

 

Yeah, I get what you mean. I'm dying to see a little bit of San Fransokyo in action! I mean, with how amazing Big Hero 6 is, I'm dying to see how the world of San Fransokyo would function in Kingdom Hearts III, so here's hoping that at D23 we finally get some footage of that world!

 

But yeah, Square are professionals, and Nomura also knows what he's doing when the trailers are going through their editing phase. He knows enough to keep vital things in the dark but give us something so that we get all the more hyped! And let me tell you, the trailers we got last year were substantially hype worthy! So I'm confident that the next footage we see from Kingdom Hearts III will only solidify the hype even more, and without spoiling anything vital! :D



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Posted 06 January 2018 - 08:16 PM

Yeah, I get what you mean. I'm dying to see a little bit of San Fransokyo in action! I mean, with how amazing Big Hero 6 is, I'm dying to see how the world of San Fransokyo would function in Kingdom Hearts III, so here's hoping that at D23 we finally get some footage of that world!
 
But yeah, Square are professionals, and Nomura also knows what he's doing when the trailers are going through their editing phase. He knows enough to keep vital things in the dark but give us something so that we get all the more hyped! And let me tell you, the trailers we got last year were substantially hype worthy! So I'm confident that the next footage we see from Kingdom Hearts III will only solidify the hype even more, and without spoiling anything vital! :D


Same here. >_< It's been so long since Big Hero 6 was announced and I think it should be showcased next. We can probably expect a world reveal, too, but I'd finally like to see some actual footage because I'm interested in how they're going to deal with such a huge city. I d also like to see more Disney characters in general like Rapunzel (and how they're going to work with her hair).

And I agree whole-heartedly. If we look back the two trailers they were definitely amazing but didn't reveal too much beyond the things we already know or being rather cryptic about it. Mentioning Roxas isn't really a surprise since it was already hinted in 3D that all these people can be saved. Some of the vessels appearing in a world also isn't too surprising.
Still, I'm glad we got to see more cutscenes too and hope we'll see more tidbits before release. Nothing too substantial but some basic interactions would be sufficent and lovely because it gives people a feel for the atmosphere. The gameplay is nice and always appreciated since it also shows of the world, but especially story-driven games profit from teasing certain elements and make people eager to find out what's going to happen. :D

#8 The Transcendent Key

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 08:09 PM

Same here. >_< It's been so long since Big Hero 6 was announced and I think it should be showcased next. We can probably expect a world reveal, too, but I'd finally like to see some actual footage because I'm interested in how they're going to deal with such a huge city. I d also like to see more Disney characters in general like Rapunzel (and how they're going to work with her hair).

And I agree whole-heartedly. If we look back the two trailers they were definitely amazing but didn't reveal too much beyond the things we already know or being rather cryptic about it. Mentioning Roxas isn't really a surprise since it was already hinted in 3D that all these people can be saved. Some of the vessels appearing in a world also isn't too surprising.
Still, I'm glad we got to see more cutscenes too and hope we'll see more tidbits before release. Nothing too substantial but some basic interactions would be sufficent and lovely because it gives people a feel for the atmosphere. The gameplay is nice and always appreciated since it also shows of the world, but especially story-driven games profit from teasing certain elements and make people eager to find out what's going to happen. :D

 

Yesss, I know! There's still so much we haven't seen, and I'm not saying we have to see a vital chunk of gameplay, but just enough balance with story cutscenes to keep us hyped! I'm dying to see how Rapunzel's hair will work for combat, and I wanna see Sora and the gang traversing through San Fransokyo!

 

And yes, I agree! If we honestly look at the trailers from a certain perspective, it's like you said! Nothing vital has been spoiled, simply what Nomura had mentioned in interviews, only that we're seeing said elements play out in cutscenes! As long as we are able to see more elements we already know about but not get spoiled, it's all good! :3


Edited by The Transcendent Key, 08 January 2018 - 08:09 PM.