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What if you don't play this game (SPOILER)


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#1 ryko14466

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 09:20 AM

Hi Guys,

the story that takes place in KHUx is canon... but what about the many fans who can't play it? Has anyone read or heard about any... lets say second movie? Like back cover 2 or something... its just that if you miss out the plot in this app, than you could miss out VERY important stuff

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I can understand how it was assumed the plot of CoM was known to everyone in KH2, because it was a actual game. But in this case I would rage, if the plot of KH3 takes the plot of KHUx for granted, and lets say something tied directly to KHUx like

Spoiler
  happends.

I'd hope for a Movie like Back cover to clarify the missing links here, maybe even bundeled with KH3.

 

it would be sad for fans who got all the HD remixes and can't play this app, for various reasons.

What do you think? Should there something (Movie/ reviews of the games like in DDD) to let people who don't know/play this app know the story

Spoiler
?

 

 



#2 Headphone Jack

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 09:51 AM

yea honestly from what ive watching of KH Ux i would prefer another movie to cover the more important plot details. the game looks like it really drags on too long and the story related stuff is spread out across a ton of filler missions. 

 

at least with CoM and KH2, players who went into KH2 without playing CoM would only be slightly confused at the beginning. KH2 never heavily based itself off of plot points from CoM, only using them as a jumping off point, so players could still skip CoM and understand KH2 just fine. 



#3 KH4Real

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 10:49 AM

Well there is a solution you can watch it on youtube.



#4 KeybladeMasterBalo

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 10:54 AM

Hi Guys,

the story that takes place in KHUx is canon... but what about the many fans who can't play it? Has anyone read or heard about any... lets say second movie? Like back cover 2 or something... its just that if you miss out the plot in this app, than you could miss out VERY important stuff

Spoiler
 

 

I can understand how it was assumed the plot of CoM was known to everyone in KH2, because it was a actual game. But in this case I would rage, if the plot of KH3 takes the plot of KHUx for granted, and lets say something tied directly to KHUx like

Spoiler
  happends.

I'd hope for a Movie like Back cover to clarify the missing links here, maybe even bundeled with KH3.

 

it would be sad for fans who got all the HD remixes and can't play this app, for various reasons.

What do you think? Should there something (Movie/ reviews of the games like in DDD) to let people who don't know/play this app know the story

Spoiler
?

Well KHIII will actually be tied to KHUx Story as mentioned by Nomura. I think he also mentioned somewhere that KHIII story "won't need" the player knowing the KHUx storyline at all to fully get the game BUT if you DO KNOW IT then you will get a BETTER understanding of the story in KHIII.

 

So in a way I think he has thought this over and it's preparing the game to be enjoyable enough for those "first entering fans" in the series (as he always do such as in KH3D with the mementos and stuff) and even more enjoyable for current fans of the series who will surely know the KHUx story whether they played the game as myself or whether they watch it on Youtube (which is the fastest and easiest way to do it).

 

As for the Ven-being-the-same-age and all it has yet to be explained but I'm sure it will be one of the matters to be revealed in the last portion of the KHUx soryline which IMO will continue from here until KHIII is almost released.



#5 AwesomeKHfan

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 11:04 AM

Declare it non canon I mean really it was never supposed to be canon untill Nomura said otherwise (Or someone at the higher ups was like ''if our MMO is canon it would sell better'').

I mean really were did the talking animals come from like Mickey, Donald and Goofy. Animals don't exist in the MMO beside the other creatures that walk around or did I miss something were they all said all the animals were real but enough over that HOW MANY fans have seen or played it? if SE send everyone KH fan a letter I am sure over the half hasn't even bothered beside the die hard fans to find out what is happening in the MMO.

We won't miss much



#6 ryko14466

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 10:44 AM

Well KHIII will actually be tied to KHUx Story as mentioned by Nomura. I think he also mentioned somewhere that KHIII story "won't need" the player knowing the KHUx storyline at all to fully get the game BUT if you DO KNOW IT then you will get a BETTER understanding of the story in KHIII.

This is what im afraid of, i like to own the full story, in this case the HD remixes were perfect, even the important story parts of otherwise unimportant games (358/2 days, Re:coded).

Heck, even coded was "just" a mobile game, but its very important to know, that memories of Ven and the others are in Soras heart, and that thats the reason mickey writes him a letter, which ties heavily into 3D. What im trying to say is, it was very good to make the App into a all time accesable game, for plots sake.

 

For me it would be a shame, because, in BBS Xehanort talks about a "Special Light" from the ancient Keyblade War, and Eraqus even tries to kill ventus... If in KH3 it would just be stated somewhere/by anyone that ventus is from the time the (first?) Keyblade War raged, without further pointing out the story of the Dandelions and Lauriam (most likely the complete Marluxia) it would SUCK to have to go on Youtube and watch the scenes of a Smartphone-Game. This is a Major Plot point, this is why Xehanort was obsessed with Ven, and created Vanitas (hopefully one of the true organisation).

 

Fans who followed the whole story from every game would be devided: those who played the app and know ventus past before BBS, and those who think he's just a random boy xehanort picked up somewhere.

 

Further, imagine, what if all the servers of the app would be shut down, and all videos from Youtube about it would disappear, and in KH3 in Ventus character  entry would be written to play KHUx to know his whole story, what then.

 

You can imagine how much hatred i have for this app  , of course not for those who play it, im playing too for the plot, but just because you cant put it onto your shelf to have the complete story accesable all-time. I just HOPE Ephemer won't be forgotten.

 

I have started the series with KH2 and absolutely loved it, without knowing about CoM and KH1, I am sure KH3 will be playable without knowledge of KHUx... you can play ANY kingdom hearts game without nowing about the others...... I am someone who plays Games (with actual Plot) more than once so if I start the kingdom hearts series again, i want to see everything, which i can, except KHUx. So just make a second pre-bbs Movie, Nomura, PLEEASE


Edited by ryko14466, 06 October 2017 - 10:46 AM.


#7 KeybladeMasterBalo

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 03:08 PM

This is what im afraid of, i like to own the full story, in this case the HD remixes were perfect, even the important story parts of otherwise unimportant games (358/2 days, Re:coded).

Heck, even coded was "just" a mobile game, but its very important to know, that memories of Ven and the others are in Soras heart, and that thats the reason mickey writes him a letter, which ties heavily into 3D. What im trying to say is, it was very good to make the App into a all time accesable game, for plots sake.

 

For me it would be a shame, because, in BBS Xehanort talks about a "Special Light" from the ancient Keyblade War, and Eraqus even tries to kill ventus... If in KH3 it would just be stated somewhere/by anyone that ventus is from the time the (first?) Keyblade War raged, without further pointing out the story of the Dandelions and Lauriam (most likely the complete Marluxia) it would SUCK to have to go on Youtube and watch the scenes of a Smartphone-Game. This is a Major Plot point, this is why Xehanort was obsessed with Ven, and created Vanitas (hopefully one of the true organisation).

 

Fans who followed the whole story from every game would be devided: those who played the app and know ventus past before BBS, and those who think he's just a random boy xehanort picked up somewhere.

 

Further, imagine, what if all the servers of the app would be shut down, and all videos from Youtube about it would disappear, and in KH3 in Ventus character  entry would be written to play KHUx to know his whole story, what then.

 

You can imagine how much hatred i have for this app  , of course not for those who play it, im playing too for the plot, but just because you cant put it onto your shelf to have the complete story accesable all-time. I just HOPE Ephemer won't be forgotten.

 

I have started the series with KH2 and absolutely loved it, without knowing about CoM and KH1, I am sure KH3 will be playable without knowledge of KHUx... you can play ANY kingdom hearts game without nowing about the others...... I am someone who plays Games (with actual Plot) more than once so if I start the kingdom hearts series again, i want to see everything, which i can, except KHUx. So just make a second pre-bbs Movie, Nomura, PLEEASE

As a game developer company itself, buisness thinking, Square-Enix cannot release a game that tells the ending of a story arch in a series of separate video games expecting that everyone know about everything by then. Sure there will be a selected amount of people who will since they are "fans" but is a wise choice to make the game around an understandable story and provide small info about important plots of the past characters and events related to the story to futher make players understand. If they were to just assume all people know about the whole story it would be a BAD MOVE. We know Nomura takes this seriously into consideration while developing the games so there is no need to worry. He is also smart enough to make it JUST understandable so people get the urge to play THE ACTUAL GAME the information provided might be talking about since it's better to "LIVE" it instead of just knowing about it (this is a smart marketing decision for sales). So in the case of KHUX we have some things that have to take into consideration:

- There's a whole universe for this entries in the series since it already has technically 3 games so far: Kingdom Hearts X (chi) for PC Browsers, Kingdom Hearts Unchained X (chi) and Kingdom Hearts Union X (cross) for mobile smartphones. This makes it much more harder to just "MAKING IT A MOVIE" since there's a lot to cover. The story so far has been really intriguing and doesn't seem to collide MUCH with the curren events going on in the series, however we know it will and this in turn affects KHIII.

 

- I understand that you're frustrated about this but so far you have proof, as you yourself have mentioned this, that all the games are pretty understandable on their separate ways and also as whole. Take your own example: You experienced KHII first in this series... you didn't know YET anything that happened before this point in time and still you loved it. If you were a fan from the start since the very first PS2 KH (as I am myself) then KHII would've been more enjoyable since you would have a backstory of the characters and events of the past. So you loved the game and I loved it with more feels than you might have had at the moment, why? because I noticed many things that you didn't and was already related to the characters and also the gameplay itself. So my point is... People from the groups you mentioned: The ones that played KHUX might love KHIII more than the ones that didn't, not meaning it won't be a super game for them either, but this will be because the game will be developed in a way that it's relatable for EVERYONE (newbies, fans, etc.) but the more backstory you have the more things will be there to enjoy. SIMPLE.

 

- If people ASKS and they think they need a movie or a game itself for the whole KHUX universe to make the whole KH storyline make sense I am almost SURE IT WILL become a reality. Square-Enix listens a lot to their fans so if there is enough demand it might happen (take the remasters as an example). As for the whole "game-being-shut-down" issue I have to recognize it would be harder for the story to feel "complete" so this is one of your comments that I think SE needs to think about. Since they haven't let ANY of the games in the series get old and stuff I feel they could eventually re-release the game for a PS4 platform or something more "collectible".

 

SO there's no need to worry. I'm pretty sure they'll come up with something to make the whole thing feel as a one long and enjoyable complete experience for everyone. Just. Be. Patient.

 

Zaz! :D


Edited by KeybladeMasterBalo, 06 October 2017 - 03:11 PM.