Let me break it down:
I keep calling Vanitas a Heartless because that's what he is, the pure darkness in Ventus' heart extracted and given form, which is exactly what Heartless are, the darkness in people's hearts which devours the heart of the person and casts off the body into nothingness, which forms a Heartless. Your belief that Heartless did not exist at the time of Birth By Sleep is demonstrably false, Heartless have always existed in the Kingdom Hearts universe naturally. There's two kinds of Heartless, purebred Heartless, which are natural beings formed entirely of the darkness from people's hearts and have always existed, and emblem Heartless, which are Heartless created by Xehanort artificially decades down the line from Birth By Sleep when he was the true Ansem's apprentice. There's the time Xehanort threw Ven against Heartless to try to get him to use the darkness which prompted him to create Vanitas in the first place and Aqua's journey through the Realm of Darkness in Birth By Sleep's final mix "A Fragmentary Passage if you need proof of that. Vanitas is definitely different from an ordinary Heartless, but they are composed of exactly the same stuff, the only difference between Vanitas and a Heartless is he still has a functioning heart just like Xehanort's Heartless which is why he can still think like a normal human being and thus keeps a vaguely human form before it's solidified once Ven merges his heart with Sora, as opposed to Heartless which don't and thus act only on pure instinct.
Heartless don't have pupils... except you know, Xehanort's Heartless and Vanitas. Regular Heartless don't have pupils because they don't mimic human form to that extent like Xehanort's Heartless and Vanitas do. With all natural heartless the vast majority of their body is black and their eyes are gold, Anti Sora (the Kingdom Hearts enemy, not Sora's Anti-Form BTW) is the most readily apparent proof of this, thus it follows that Vanitas' hair and eyes would be.
That's not confirmation, Nomura is referring ONLY to golden eyes of the members of the True Organization 13, not that any character that has golden eyes is necessarily possessed by Xehanort and certainly not Vanitas. Xehanort was not placing his heart within anyone but Terra at the time of Birth By Sleep, therefore he could not be responsible for Vanitas having golden eyes in any way whatsoever. The only reason Xehanort began placing his pieces of his heart into other people was to attempt to forge the X-blade, which he had no reason to do at the time of Birth By Sleep no matter how much of a master planner he is, he states this in Dream Drop Distance directly:
Xehanort: "I once tried to create my own pure light and darkness to forge the X-blade, but the attempt ended in failure. In my eagerness, I had lost sight of the correct way to achieve my goal."
Xehanort has no reason whatsoever to start putting his heart into people until AFTER Birth By Sleep's attempt to make the X-blade fails, he doesn't KNOW that his method wouldn't work at the time.
Right back at ya.
Vanitas has golden eyes and black hair but he is not a Heartless
1) A Heartless: only if the WHOLE heart is lost to darkness. A Heartless is created when a person is devoured by the Darkness in their heart and turn into a Heartless. Heartless are born when a heart is consumed by the darkness within it, or when a Heartless steals the heart. Same thing
In vens case, Ventus didn’t even completely lose his heart, he only lost HALF of it. Vanitas is just the embodiment of the darkness in Ventus’ heart. Its just HALF of his heart, not the whole. Ven didn't lose his whole heart because he still had half of it remaining. Therefore, Ven did not lose his heart to darkness.
2) A human can turn into a Heartless by the dark half of their heart. (Pureblood) Heartless are only created when a Heart force to its further in darkness.
Vanitas can't be “lost” or "force" by his own Darkness because he is already PURE darkness. Lol that's like adding pink paint to your walls even though your walls were already painted pink.So it doesn't make sense. Vanitas can't be a heartless. Vanitas is a “human” being and his heart made out of darkness. That's it. I dont know whats so hard to understand. I'm pretty sure nomura would have confirmed vanitas being a heartless before the confusion but he doesn't because vanitas isn't a heartless. He is just half of Ventus. The end
(Emblem) Heartless never existed during BBS era. In BBS, Only the (Purebloods) heartless only in the RoD. We don’t see the hearts a pureblood releases. (Pureblood) Heartless DON'T release hearts.
“Question: Are there new enemies you can confirm that are not shown in the screens?”
“Nomura: The new enemy is not a Heartless, or a Nobody, because the story takes place BEFORE even they appear. I can only give out more information, little by little, as time passes: an example being like the Shadow enemies that are heartless, and the Dusk enemies that are nobodies.”
Only the way to make the X-blade is when a heart of pure light and a heart of pure darkness clash. Vanitas DOES have a heart and he is a human. Vanitas is a being with a heart of pure darkness. Not a heartless, not a nobody, not an unversed (well maybe an unversed imo). When Ven defeated Vanitas and destroyed the X-Blade, vanitas faded in white sparks, basically into nothing. When pureblood is defeated, they dissolve into black smoke. If vanitas was a (pureblood, since emblem never existed yet) heartless, he should have dissolved into black smoke but reality he doesn't because he isn't a heartless. Either Vanitas was completely destroyed or Vanitas' heart is residing with someone. My theory is vanitas is residing with YX. Young Xehanort said he went back in time to get splintered versions of Xehanort. YX appeared in BBS. He could've picked up vanitas' shattered heart. And if vanitas wasn't residing with Young Xehanort, then what's the point putting him in the scene with YX? It could've been someone else than vanitas. That’s why i'm assuming that vanitas is residing with YX
I can theorize that Vanitas is half xehanort. We can assume Master Xehanort did for Vanitas, like what Sora did for Ventus at the beginning of the game. But I do not have evidence for that. He was born with the mask on so we don't know if he was born with golden eyes or not
“Nomura:Afterwards Braig’s ears become sharper, and his brown eyes change to gold. This is because he was influenced by Xehanort who he was working with.”
Because again the golden eyes have nothing to do with darkness and everything to do with Master Xehanort's heart.
Nomura confirmed that having golden eyes is a matter of how deeply you are connected to Xehanort. Golden eyes and pointy ears equal xehanort’s influence. It destroys your theory about whole golden eyes representing darkness because, Nomura says that eye color is influenced by Xehanort himself. You can't argue over a confirmation from the creator LMAO
Now, can you stop calling him a heartless because he isnt. Vanitas is Vanitas
It's probably the way nomura worded it:/
Nomura might be retconning stuff but that doesn't mean that it doesn't fit into what has been established before. Like mentioned twice already, Xehanort says in Blank Points that Terra is one of many roads. Nomura specifically gave himself an opening there to have Xehanort scheme many things at once.
It makes sense that Xehanort has some hierarchy to his plans. He wants the Keyblade, he knows two ways to summon it
1) Two equal powers clash, one of Darkness and one of Light
2) The X-Blade shattered into 20 pieces, 13 of Darkness, 7 of Light, those have to come together again.
So obviously he'd go for the easier plot, first, extracts Ven's darkness. Kid looks nearly dead to him, he brings him to Destiny Islands to die. Seemingly, his first attempt failed even though he had the perfect candidate.
Makes sense for him to switch over to his new plan (off screen), planting a piece of his heart in Vanitas, when he then realizes hey, Ven isn't dead at all, he can try and continue his original plan because it means less work for him.
Unless it's gonna be outright denied, it is a possibility. Or, like I suggested before, that Vanitas was just as unstable as Ven until he possibly latched onto Xehanort's heart.
I don't know how people get vanitas confused with a heartless. Vanitas isn't a heartless
Edited by KHShaderoom, 27 July 2017 - 03:01 PM.