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Why aren't Vanitas' eyes blue?


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#1 KHShaderoom

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 12:27 PM

Why arent vanitas' eyes blue?.

Vanitas only looks like Sora because Ventus connected his heart with Sora's. It is a similar situation with Ventus and Roxas. So Shouldn't Vanitas have Sora's blue eyes the same way Roxas has Ventus' blue eyes? Yellow/golden eyes doesn't represent darkness either. Yellow/golden Eyes and Pointed Ears means the character has relation to Xehanort

 


#2 Alja

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 12:39 PM

I assume this was done to make the distinction between Sora and Vanitas clear as day for the audience once he sheds his helmet for the first time. But I can also imagine him needing to support his heart of Darkness in a similar way Ven has to support his heart of Light so both of them don't fade. Through Ven's connection, Vanitas looks like Sora, but he himself didn't make the connection himself and not directly, maybe he has another, direct connection to Xehanort's heart to nurture his own broken piece of heart and that makes his eyes yellow.

 

Or Xehanort actually put a piece of his heart into Vanitas early on, after all, we don't see exactly when his eyes turned yellow and whether or not they were yellow from the beginning.



#3 Headphone Jack

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 01:09 PM

because Vanitas is evil and i think most of the evil characters in this series have yellow/orange eyes.

 

blue is usually associated with "Good" in this series.



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Posted 24 July 2017 - 01:59 PM

I think it's because he was created by Xehanort. Xehanort used Ventus' darkness to make him and thus yellow (also orange eyes) are associated with darkness. I personally believe that he's one of Xehanort's vessels, thus a seeker of darkness. 



#5 KH4Real

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 02:10 PM

because Vanitas is evil and i think most of the evil characters in this series have yellow/orange eyes.

 

blue is usually associated with "Good" in this series.

I wonder if those eyes in 2.8 were made in mistake cause they were first made in KH3.



#6 Hero of Light XIV

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 03:00 PM

Gee, it's almost as if Xehanort was considering his own apprentice to become a future vessel for himself-OH WAIT.



#7 Dustin Lübbers

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 03:29 PM

Gee, it's almost as if Xehanort was considering his own apprentice to become a future vessel for himself-OH WAIT.

or to put it simpel. cus he is EVIL!!!



#8 Hero of Light XIV

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 03:50 PM

or to put it simpel. cus he is EVIL!!!

I mean, kind of goes without saying, but yeah.



#9 KeybladeMasterBalo

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 03:52 PM

A being who has been given in to the darkess has yellow eyes (Ansem, Xemnas, Vanitas, Xehanort, Terra-Xehanort, Young Xehanort, gosh even the heartless have yellow eyes...) Why exactly this happens? Beats me.



#10 KHShaderoom

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 05:36 PM

because Vanitas is evil and i think most of the evil characters in this series have yellow/orange eyes.
 
blue is usually associated with "Good" in this series.


Um we all know vanitas is evil but....Yellow/golden eyes doesn't represent being evil or darkness. Nomura already confirmed this already


Nomura: It's a question of whether or not they're deeply connected to Xehanort. In Braig's case, comparing the scene where he's injured in his battle with Terra and flares up at Xehanort, his appearance afterwards changes, which hints that something happened with Xehanort in between.

A being who has been given in to the darkess has yellow eyes (Ansem, Xemnas, Vanitas, Xehanort, Terra-Xehanort, Young Xehanort, gosh even the heartless have yellow eyes...) Why exactly this happens? Beats me.


Master Xehanort eyes could be naturally yellow.

#11 Movies798

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 09:17 PM

Simple maybe because he might be one of Master Xehanort's clones? I mean yeah sure he's evil but having yellow eyes doesn't mean he's evil. Larxene was evil in Chain of Memories but she has green eyes, Marluxia was evil but he had blue eyes in Chain of Memories, and Luxord was evil but he also had blue eyes. I honestly hope Vanitas is one of Master Xehanort's members in The Thirteen Seekers of Darkness because he's one of my favorite Kingdom Hearts villains.



#12 The Transcendent Key

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 09:42 PM

I think Vanitas having yellow eyes is simply a design choice, I don't think it has anything to do plot-wise. It could simply be that his appearance just turned out that way, without any kind of complicated explanation needed, ya know? It could also be that he was marked by Xehanort to be one of the members of the true Organization, so there's that too!



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Posted 25 July 2017 - 05:45 AM

I've always wondered the same thing myself, I always felt that his eyes were yellow because he was connected to Master Xehanort.

But the previous games and BBS have proved that Vanitas does not harbour a fragment of Xehanort's heart in him.

 

So then why are his eyes golden yellow and not blood-red like unversed eyes?



#14 KHShaderoom

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 09:22 AM

I've always wondered the same thing myself, I always felt that his eyes were yellow because he was connected to Master Xehanort.
But the previous games and BBS have proved that Vanitas does not harbour a fragment of Xehanort's heart in him.
 
So then why are his eyes golden yellow and not blood-red like unversed eyes?


What proved he didn't harbour a fragment of Xehanort's heart in him? Confirmation or evidence?

Cause we don't know but I want to hear your theory

#15 Master Eraqus

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 09:46 AM

I've always wondered the same thing myself, I always felt that his eyes were yellow because he was connected to Master Xehanort.

But the previous games and BBS have proved that Vanitas does not harbour a fragment of Xehanort's heart in him.

 

So then why are his eyes golden yellow and not blood-red like unversed eyes?

 

A being who has been given in to the darkess has yellow eyes (Ansem, Xemnas, Vanitas, Xehanort, Terra-Xehanort, Young Xehanort, gosh even the heartless have yellow eyes...) Why exactly this happens? Beats me.

Yellow eyes means that they are part-Xehanort. Yellow eyes have nothing to do with the darkness.



#16 KeybladeMasterBalo

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 04:22 PM

Yellow eyes means that they are part-Xehanort. Yellow eyes have nothing to do with the darkness.

Well there is not confirmation that it doesn't either. Assuming Vanitas was born just like we see him he has yellow eyes and Xehanort never on that moment passed a part of his heart to Vanitas... I do consider the yellow eyes to be part of a being of darkness. The heartless have yellow eyes so maybe for a person looking being of darkness they decided they would go with that as well having them with yellow eyes. Those are my thoughts at least.



#17 Master Eraqus

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 04:36 PM

Well there is not confirmation that it doesn't either. Assuming Vanitas was born just like we see him he has yellow eyes and Xehanort never on that moment passed a part of his heart to Vanitas... I do consider the yellow eyes to be part of a being of darkness. The heartless have yellow eyes so maybe for a person looking being of darkness they decided they would go with that as well having them with yellow eyes. Those are my thoughts at least.

There have been moments in the series when people used darkness but their eyes never turned yellow:

 

  • Riku
  • Riku Replica
  • Terra
  • Most, if not all, Organization members
  • Maleficent
  • Captain Hook
  • Xion

There's also the fact that in the Kingdom Hearts series, hearts shape bodies:

 

  • Ansem SOD possessed Riku's body in KH1 and made it look like Xehanort in his thirties/forties.
  • After Sora turned into a Heartless, his body (Roxas) had Ventus' heart, thus shaping Roxas to look like Ventus.
  • In 358/2 Days and KH2, Riku still had Ansem SOD in his body and had to look like him to be able to use the darkness fully.
  • In BBS, Xehanort transferred his heart into Terra's body, giving traits of Xehanort; grey hair and yellow eyes.

Finally, in Dream Drop Distance, as Xigbar/Braig tells Sora that he's already half-Xehanort, the camera zooms straight into his yellow eye, which was originally brown in BBS and later yellow, implying that the yellow eyes means that the person is part-Xehanort.

 

EDIT: Forgot to mention this quote:

 

  • Comparing the Organization members when they were human to when they were in the Organization, apart from Xehanort, only Isa and Braig have differently-shaped ears and differently-coloured eyes - why is this?

It’s a question of whether or not they’re deeply connected to Xehanort. In Braig’s case, comparing the scene where he’s injured in his battle with Terra and flares up at Xehanort, his appearance afterwards changes, which hints that something happened with Xehanort in between.

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Edited by Master Eraqus, 25 July 2017 - 04:39 PM.


#18 KeybladeMasterBalo

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 04:43 PM

There have been moments in the series when people used darkness but their eyes never turned yellow:

 

  • Riku
  • Riku Replica
  • Terra
  • Most, if not all, Organization members
  • Maleficent
  • Captain Hook
  • Xion

There's also the fact that in the Kingdom Hearts series, hearts shape bodies:

 

  • Ansem SOD possessed Riku's body in KH1 and made it look like Xehanort in his thirties/forties.
  • After Sora turned into a Heartless, his body (Roxas) had Ventus' heart, thus shaping Roxas to look like Ventus.
  • In 358/2 Days and KH2, Riku still had Ansem SOD in his body and had to look like him to be able to use the darkness fully.
  • In BBS, Xehanort transferred his heart into Terra's body, giving traits of Xehanort; grey hair and yellow eyes.

Finally, in Dream Drop Distance, as Xigbar/Braig tells Sora that he's already half-Xehanort, the camera zooms straight into his yellow eye, which was originally brown in BBS and later yellow, implying that the yellow eyes means that the person is part-Xehanort.

Well for me the fact that they can use darkness doesn't mean they ARE beings of darkness. You have to give completely to the darkness to be a dark being IMO thus giving you body changes like Xehanort where his ears where pointed and his eyes could be turned yellow (In his case tho it's totally unclear). Maleficent and others as you mentioned are not beings of darkness but they use the power of darkness to their advantage. But it seems to me Xehanort did give himself completely to the darkness. It's really confusing but you might be right, I might be right. We may both be right. Only Nomura know :v



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Posted 25 July 2017 - 05:20 PM

Vanitas has golden eyes because Vanitas started out as essentially a human shaped heartless. When Ven joined his heart with Sora Vanitas gained Sora's general form and since all heartless have golden eyes he kept the same eye color in the transition, just like how he has black hair.



#20 Master Eraqus

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Posted 26 July 2017 - 03:32 AM

Well for me the fact that they can use darkness doesn't mean they ARE beings of darkness. You have to give completely to the darkness to be a dark being IMO thus giving you body changes like Xehanort where his ears where pointed and his eyes could be turned yellow (In his case tho it's totally unclear). Maleficent and others as you mentioned are not beings of darkness but they use the power of darkness to their advantage. But it seems to me Xehanort did give himself completely to the darkness. It's really confusing but you might be right, I might be right. We may both be right. Only Nomura know :v

Well, as I said, the camera zooming into Xigbar's/Braig's eye in DDD heavily implies that the yellow eyes are an effect of becoming part/half-Xehanort. There's also the fact that Xehanort isn't a being of darkness. Much like Riku and other characters, he's a human who embraces the darkness and uses it to his advantage, rather than allowing it to control him.

 

Riku, for example, completely gave in to the darkness. His body was literally covered in it. Yet, the colour of his eyes never changed. Same goes for Riku Replica, who embraces the darkness, essentially mirroring KH1 Riku.

 

Besides using Corridors of Darkness, Xigbar was never seen using the darkness and Riku has clearly used it more than he has, so why doesn't Riku have yellow eyes if he used the darkness so much?

 

Xehanort even had yellow eyes before controlling the darkness; all the way back when he was a young boy on an island, believing that his world was just too small.

 

Quotes:

 

Birth by Sleep Ultimania Interviews:

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Nomura Interviews: 20 Mysteries of the Series:

 

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EDIT: One more thing. There is Sephiroth. Cloud's darkness; a literal being of darkness, who has blue eyes, not yellow eyes.


Edited by Master Eraqus, 12 September 2017 - 11:30 AM.