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#1 Crash Marshall

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Posted 12 April 2017 - 10:24 PM

So I've been wondering about Xigbar's appearance in Dream Drop Distance. When DDD first came out, I thought Xigbar was brought from the past by Young Xehanort, but then the Re: Coded movie had a scene of Young Xehanort talking with a revived Braig. So does that mean that Xigbar was from the past or did Braig become a Nobody again and if Xigbar is from the past and part of the True Organization XIII then what will Braig's role be?



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Posted 13 April 2017 - 01:59 AM

Xigbar is a Xehanort. Probably was even in his whole human form as Braig, judging by his eye in one of the scenes in BBS. And he was brought from the past. It's quite clear, as he disappears like the other Xehanorts at the end of DDD. I doubt he actually became whole again after he was defeated by Sora, Donald and Goofy. Same with Saïx/Isa.

His role is that he is one of the 13 Darknesses. He will help in forging the x-blade. Maybe even lure the 7 lights to the designated location.

Edited by MythrilMagician, 13 April 2017 - 02:01 AM.


#3 VisitJoan

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 04:38 PM

Xigbar is a Xehanort. Probably was even in his whole human form as Braig, judging by his eye in one of the scenes in BBS. And he was brought from the past. It's quite clear, as he disappears like the other Xehanorts at the end of DDD. I doubt he actually became whole again after he was defeated by Sora, Donald and Goofy. Same with Saïx/Isa.

His role is that he is one of the 13 Darknesses. He will help in forging the x-blade. Maybe even lure the 7 lights to the designated location.

That's interesting considering that Lea was looking for Isa.  I wonder what he will do after he gets done with his keyblade training.



#4 MythrilMagician

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 05:51 PM

That's interesting considering that Lea was looking for Isa.  I wonder what he will do after he gets done with his keyblade training.


Yeah, they all became Nobodies in the computer room in Radient Garden. So when they became whole again, they awoke in the same location. For Braig and Isa to not be there probably means that they never became whole again in the first place. Unlike Lea and the rest.

#5 Crash Marshall

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 06:05 PM

Yeah, they all became Nobodies in the computer room in Radient Garden. So when they became whole again, they awoke in the same location. For Braig and Isa to not be there probably means that they never became whole again in the first place. Unlike Lea and the rest.

But 2.5 showed us that Braig did become whole again, unless that Braig was from the past.



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Posted 13 April 2017 - 06:07 PM

But 2.5 showed us that Braig did become whole again, unless that Braig was from the past.


I'm sorry when in 2.5?

#7 Crash Marshall

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 06:20 PM

I'm sorry when in 2.5?

The end of the Re: Coded movie.


Edited by Crash Marshall, 13 April 2017 - 06:25 PM.


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Posted 13 April 2017 - 07:07 PM

In the 2.5 Re:coded secret ending, we see the Organization XIII members who were residents of Radiant Garden lying on the floor after being recompleted as people again. We also see Braig, who is not lying on the floor like the rest of them. He presumably woke up before them. (We know this 2.5 secret ending takes place after Re:coded and before Dream Drop Distance because Ienzo is an adult in this cutscene. There is a cutscene in the beginning of Dream Drop Distance that shows Even and Ienzo on the floor turning into Heartless/Nobodies and Ienzo is a little kid in that cutscene, so we know the 2.5 secret ending takes place after Re:coded because we know Ienzo grew up as an adult while he was a Nobody.)

 

In Dream Drop Distance, we see Xigbar. It is implied that this is actually Braig, not Xigbar and he's just going by the name Xigbar for some reason (most likely because of the Recusant's Sigil in that name). If this is the same recompleted Braig that we saw in the 2.5 Re:coded secret ending, then how come he has long hair again, how come he has gray in his hair again? It would not make sense for him to just all of a sudden change appearance and grow hair that quickly. Is this actually Xigbar and not Braig, and they were just implying that it was Braig just to trick us? If it's Xigbar, then that can either mean that he was brought to the present day from time travel, or that can mean that Young Xehanort turned the recompleted Braig back into a Nobody for some reason (maybe he's stronger as a Nobody?).

 

Also, do people keep their appearances that they had as Nobodies when they turn back into people, or are they reverted to how they looked before they were turned into Nobodies? This is very unclear. It seems that some parts of them did keep their appearance and some parts of them didn't for some reason. Ienzo, Lea, and Isa aged as Nobodies and kept their ages when they turned back into people. Lea lost the markings under his eyes when he became a person again though for some reason.

 

From what we know, this is how it is: You are reverted back to how you looked before you became a Nobody, but you keep your age. For example, Lea was reverted to how he looked before he became a Nobody which is why he lost the markings under his eyes, but he still looks older because he kept his age.

 

There are some people who think that the 2.5 Re:coded secret ending takes place way back in-between BBS and KH1, but that is simply not true as proved above.

 

There are some people who think that the Xigbar in DDD is actually the recompleted Braig and the Braig in the 2.5 secret ending is the one who's a time traveler. That is simply not true. As stated above, it wouldn't make sense for the Xigbar in DDD to have long hair if he was actually Braig and it wouldn't make sense for the Braig in the 2.5 secret ending to be the time traveler because he's at the spot where he was just recompleted.

 

So, this is what we know so far and is so far the absolute truth: The Braig in the 2.5 Re:coded secret ending is Braig after he was just recompleted as a person again. The Xigbar we see in Dream Drop Distance is either one of these two things: He's either a time traveling Xigbar that Young Xehanort brought to the present time, or he is the recompleted Braig that Young Xehanort turned back into a Nobody for some reason. It is currently unconfirmed which of these two things is the answer. If he is a time traveling Xigbar, then that means that Xigbar and Braig are both alive and in the present day at the same time. If Braig was turned back into Xigbar, then that means Xigbar is the only one who is alive and in the present day. We also know that when you are recompleted as a person again, you are reverted to how you looked before you became a Nobody, which is why Lea lost the markings under his eyes, and is why Dilan's hairstyle was reverted back to how it was before he became a Nobody, and is why Braig's hair turned shorter again and lost the gray in it. We also know though that you age as a Nobody and you keep your age that you grew to when you turn back into a person.



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Posted 15 April 2017 - 02:38 PM

Keep in mind that Braig is still part of the Organization, and has also been Norted, so it could be for those reasons that he still takes the name, "Xigbar". Likewise with Isa, who we will probably hear him being referred to, if not even, referring to himself, as "Sai'x" in KH3. This could be be a reason that Xigbar still calls Sora "Roxas" in DDD, Rather than simply referring to the fact that Roxas is in his heart, if Sora were to join the Organization, it's highly possible that they would just refer to him as "Roxas". This is just speculation, mind you.

 

All that said though, the whole dynamic of DDD's story is confusing. After all, Master Xehanort was completed, but he vanished with the others. Perhaps the reason Xigbar and MX disappeared from the realm of sleep was simply because they chose to, as they already knew they had run out of time for the Union of Darkness to be achieved at the moment, as the others would disappear. Who really knows?



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Posted 17 April 2017 - 05:27 PM

Xigbar is a Xehanort. Probably was even in his whole human form as Braig, judging by his eye in one of the scenes in BBS. And he was brought from the past. It's quite clear, as he disappears like the other Xehanorts at the end of DDD. I doubt he actually became whole again after he was defeated by Sora, Donald and Goofy. Same with Saïx/Isa.

His role is that he is one of the 13 Darknesses. He will help in forging the x-blade. Maybe even lure the 7 lights to the designated location.

I like this explanation. Perfectly said.