Tetsuya Nomura's lack of transparency and commitment

[Dio Brando 5,810]

I know I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this but at the very least please PLEASE be respectful.I'm fine with you disagreeing with me but don't hurl insults at me.Ok?Good

 

 

I just HAD to talk about this in the light of the recent news

 

http://www.novacrystallis.com/2017/01/final-fantasy-vii-remake-kingdom-hearts-iii-still-ways-off/

 

People like to call me an ungrateful impatient bigot but seriously,well Nomura and Square Enix ever learn their lesson?

 

This is what happens when they pile up aaaall of their projects,let alone one of which being THEIR MOST ANTICIPATED GAME BEFORE IT WAS EVEN ANNOUNCED BY THEM,to one single director?

 

I know I'm really repeating myself here especially with my last thread and all but all this ends up creating is a product with so much content being cut out from or not meeting expectations due to the development hell it resulted from

 

Some people like to say "Poor Nomura,they pile so many projects on him he's working so hard for us fans",I may have some respect for the man but I won't sympathize with his directorial ethos anymore

 

He of all people knows that he'd love to focus and work more on his own series A.K.A Kingdom Hearts.You might not think so him choosing to direct 358\2 Days,Re:Coded,DDD,Chi and now 3 have severely affected what we now know as Final Fantasy XV(formerly known as Versus XIII).I don't claim to know exactly what goes behind the scenes by any means but from my observation of how he works and how he deals with public perception(something Square is so bad at controlling).I've come to one conclusion

 

 

Tetsuya Nomura lacks both transparency and commitment towards both the consumer and the deadlines

 

For example when it comes to transparency,let's look at both KH3 and FFXV

 

With FFXV,ever since the game's old state as Versus XIII all the way up to 2014 we heard close to absolutely nothing of how development is progressing aside from 3 trailers with long periods of silence between each and everyone of them.But once he got replaced we got the Active Time Reports which was updating the game's development's state almost on a monthly basis.

 

Say what you will about how XV turned out but at least the new director tried his best to be as transparent as possible with what he's allowed to share

 

Nomura on the other hand say little to nothing.With KH3 we heard jackshit until E3 2015 when we finally,FINALLY had a proper full trailer for the game that isn't a short prototype footage shown to the press then later leaked to the internet and after that 2016 came with a drought of KH3 news(I don't mean trailers,just anything) beyond how 2.8 is totally important and how 0.2 leads to the beginning of KH3(Yay It's MGS5  Ground Zeroes all over again).

 

But you know what?I would've been fine with the lack of news...............if they didn't announce their stuff so freakin early

 

With how Square announces their games HALF A DECADE before their arrival,Nomura has little to no reason to worry as he's not commited to a deadline he'd be forced to deliver the game in so he'd just do whatever he wants with his given budget and put whatever other projects that belongs to franchises he didn't conceive to be put on the backburner and Square Enix is just totally fine with it as it aligns perfectly with how their marketing division handle things despite them legitimately not knowing what to do with the guy who,among other people like Motomu Toriyama,slowly but surely ran their reputation to the ground with Nomura in particular known to the public outside of the Square fandom as "The guy whose games never come out.

 

 

It makes me wonder why they let him be in charge of their most anticipated game with the VII remake.Eventually the same thing will happen before even episode 1 come out.

 

The game will suffer from development hell,directors will be swapped in and out coupled with staff leaving the company due to layoffs or them just quitting,then the game come out so late that the hype for it just died after the revelation of how much was left out of the game and the radical changes they'll implement to the point it's barely recognized as FFVII anymore

 

 

People have very varied degrees of patience and no matter how long they wait,eventually the patience will run so thin that a lot of people would just give up on Square Enix yet again and that bad reputation will cause them to lose a firetruckton of sales and profit in the long term

 

 

Enough is Enough Nomura and Square Enix,if you guys don't think you can deliver a product at a specified time.STOP ANNOUNCING THEM SO EARLY

 

STOP ANNOUNCING GAMES HALF A DECADE BEFORE THEY COME OUT.NOT EVERYONE IS WILLING TO FOLLOW YOU LIKE A RELIGION TO WAIT CLOSE TO A DECADE FOR JUST VIDEO GAMES.PEOPLE HAVE LIVES AND THEY'LL MOVE ON TO A DIFFERENT RPG DEVELOPER IF YOU FAIL TO DELIVER

 

 

And now that I painted the red target on me,I'm ready for the lambastation 

[Felixx 6,646]

I understand that people get impatient, with games being announced so early. Nomura himself said that KH3 for example was announced too early, but he wanted the fans to know that that game will be a thing, which is good imo. I mean what would have been the other option? Not saying anything about a possible KH3 and losing fans over time because they have no idea if that game ever comes out? (And yes, I know some fans already got lost because of the waiting )

My point is I rather know a game is in development and wait for it, than not knowing anything at all.

[keyslinger 307]

Im probably gonna get hate for this too but I agree. He seems to have his plate full and yes he made great games but that does not give him a free pass. Square shouldn't give him so many projects.

Edited January 11, 2017 by keyslinger

[Komali 594]

Announcing it early was the right choice, believe me.

 

Imagine if KH3 would be still unannounced, Nomura wouldn't get the same pressure from the public like he gets now.

 

SE also needed to make a sign that they are supporting the next gen consoles. Many developers expected that console gaming would be dead after PS3 and Xbox 360.

 

Additionally SE is not the only one who announces games too early. Zelda was announced three years ago and isn't released yet. Look at other games like Death Stranding and Cyberpunk 2077, they will probably release for the PS5. All three examples are made by excellent developers. The growing complexity and challenge of developing games leads to higher development cycles.

 

Those who are mad about the newest KH3 info just want to feel "the hype" but hyping yourself will always lead to dissapointment. Play simply other games until KH3 infos arrive. There are many other good games which come out in the next months.

[KingdomHearts3 2,591]

Why does he have to be transparent at all? Why do we need to know all that he knows? If we learned even a majority of what he knows, it ruins the surprise. Now as for announcing stuff, he did believe 2013 was early, but you have to admit the fan base was getting impatient and wanted to know if KH3 was even in production at all. Square Enix will do as they please with their announcements. Doesn't make them bad people nor all of a sudden because of it, they're going to lose money. How do you know that anyway? Sounds like negativity to me and looking at the glass half empty (bull crap that it's being cautious, they all say that and then say something negative right after). Square Enix knows what they want to do and is doing it; same with Nomura. Whatever they do is their business and they have their reasons.

[Dio Brando 5,810]

I understand that people get impatient, with games being announced so early. Nomura himself said that KH3 for example was announced too early, but he wanted the fans to know that that game will be a thing, which is good imo. I mean what would have been the other option? Not saying anything about a possible KH3 and losing fans over time because they have no idea if that game ever comes out? (And yes, I know some fans already got lost because of the waiting )

My point is I rather know a game is in development and wait for it, than not knowing anything at all.

It's a bad predicament they put themselves in and it's been built up by their marketing behaviors ever since the early 2000s

 

KH3 I can wait as long as he's not so silent...............VII remake on the other hand I'll stop caring once it exceeds the three year gap with utter silence inbetween

Announcing it early was the right choice, believe me.

 

Imagine if KH3 would be still unannounced, Nomura wouldn't get the same pressure from the public like he gets now.

 

SE also needed to make a sign that they are supporting the next gen consoles. Many developers expected that console gaming would be dead after PS3 and Xbox 360.

 

Additionally SE is not the only one who announces games too early. Zelda was announced three years ago and isn't released yet. Look at other games like Death Stranding and Cyberpunk 2077, they will probably release for the PS5. All three examples are made by excellent developers. The growing complexity and challenge of developing games leads to higher development cycles.

 

Those who are mad about the newest KH3 info just want to feel "the hype" but hyping yourself will always lead to dissapointment. Play simply other games until KH3 infos arrive. There are many other good games which come out in the next months.

At least for Zelda it wasn't announced A DECADE AGO like XV\Versus XIII

 

Like I understand with KH3 but not the VII remake,Nomura shouldn't be the director for VII remake

 

I play other games more than I do Square games but it doesn't mean it's not frustrating

It's not a good feeling when you fall out of a series you love 

 

I fell out of KH and I try my best to be optimistic about KH3 but I can't

Im probably gonna get hate for this too but I agree. He seems to have his plate full and yes he made great games but that does not give him a free pass. Square shouldn't give him so many projects.

He should only work on Kingdom Hearts as that's where he shines

 

 

Everytime he directed an FF project that isn't Dissidia it either suffers or end up being either subpar or bad

Edited January 11, 2017 by Smash Mega Koopa

[Zerrick 43]

Nomura is a terrible project director he should never be given more than one project at a time. He is too ambitious with little to show for it. Honestly, square enix just needs to put him in a cellar where all he does is put effort into the KH property.none of this FF7 remake nonsense with the man who completely butchered cloud's character in the first place.

[Felixx 6,646]

It's a bad predicament they put themselves in and it's been built up by their marketing behaviors ever since the early 2000s

 

KH3 I can wait as long as he's not so silent...............VII remake on the other hand I'll stop caring once it exceeds the three year gap with utter silence inbetween

 

No offense, but isn't that a bit childish? I mean if he gives you news about the FFVII remake every few months or not, that doesn't change the final product at all. And if you care about the game now and wanna get it, I don't understand why such a scenario would make you not want it anymore. Just my personal opinion.

[Guest]

There is absolutely no denying Nomura's lack of commitment to a singular project. Poor Tabata had to be the one to push the reset button for Final Fantasy XV.

 

But what I'm seeing here is a sense of impatience. Nomura said in the interview that the delay was due to world implementation, I find that justifiable. There's so many different Disney properties to select for a mainline game that you have to make sure you're selecting the right ones to best fit with Kingdom Hearts.

 

Plus, we just literally started 2017. This year has far more in store for us than last year ever did. And I see that you're a Megami Tensei fan, if you do get fed up of Kingdom Hearts, Persona 5 will be available early April to kill time in the meantime.

[Dio Brando 5,810]

No offense, but isn't that a bit childish? I mean if he gives you news about the FFVII remake every few months or not, that doesn't change the final product at all. And if you care about the game now and wanna get it, I don't understand why such a scenario would make you not want it anymore. Just my personal opinion.

By news I mean anything not trailers,just little updates on development status every 3 to 4 months or so the way Tabata did with Active Time Reports

 

I have a life and I'm not ready to wait a decade for a video game.What happened to Versus XIII should never happen again

There is absolutely no denying Nomura's lack of commitment to a singular project. Poor Tabata had to be the one to push the reset button for Final Fantasy XV.

 

But what I'm seeing here is a sense of impatience. Nomura said in the interview that the delay was due to world implementation, I find that justifiable. There's so many different Disney properties to select for a mainline game that you have to make sure you're selecting the right ones to best fit with Kingdom Hearts.

 

Plus, we just literally started 2017. This year has far more in store for us than last year ever did. And I see that you're a Megami Tensei fan, if you do get fed up of Kingdom Hearts, Persona 5 will be available early April to kill time in the meantime.

With KH3 I never asked for a 2017 release by any means......just a deadline,any deadline would be enough even if it's not that close with some transparency even if it's not frequent

 

It's not that I'm impatient and I did state so if you read my post,it's my interest that's waving away

 

I already moved on to Megami Tensei and I'm waaaaaaaaaaaay more hyped for P5 than anything from Square Enix at this point

 

It's not a matter of impatience,it's a matter of me stopping to give a shit.Why should I bother coming back to Square Enix RPGs after this?

 

It just bothers me as a former Square fan who followed the company for more than half of my life

Edited January 11, 2017 by Smash Mega Koopa

[Guest]

By news I mean anything not trailers,just little updates on development status every 3 to 4 months or so the way Tabata did with Active Time Reports

 

I have a life and I'm not ready to wait a decade for a video game.What happened to Versus XIII should never happen again

 

Again, we literally started 2017. Nomura guaranteed new Kingdom Hearts III footage after 2.8's release. To add to that, there's the world tour orchestra and season 2 of X Back Cover with a brand new Disney property. For Kingdom Hearts content in general, there's a lot to be provided. 

 

Besides, Famitsu and Dengeki interviews happen every so often so they're the equivalent of active time reports. Kingdom Hearts III is not going through a Versus XIII development hell, because unlike Versus XIII, assets and gameplay elements have already been made and partially integrated into 0.2.

[Felixx 6,646]

By news I mean anything not trailers,just little updates on development status every 3 to 4 months or so the way Tabata did with Active Time Reports

 

I have a life and I'm not ready to wait a decade for a video game.What happened to Versus XIII should never happen again

 

Well yeah, I have a life too No one told you to stop living just because you wait for a game. You can play other games in the meanwhile, and like you mentioned you are hyped for P5 atm so that also occupies you. And it's not even 4 years now, for KH3, dunno where that decade part comes from.

 

About the news, Nomura and SE will give us them when they have any. And in the recent interview Nomura did say something about the development status.

[Dio Brando 5,810]

Well yeah, I have a life too No one told you to stop living just because you wait for a game. You can play other games in the meanwhile, and like you mentioned you are hyped for P5 atm so that also occupies you. And it's not even 4 years now, for KH3, dunno where that decade part comes from.

 

About the news, Nomura and SE will give us them when they have any. And in the recent interview Nomura did say something about the development status.

The reason I'm saying all of this is..........my fear is that I'm gonna fall out of being a Square enix fan

 

I already mostly moved on but a day might come where I would stop playing or buying all modern square games ever again

[Felixx 6,646]

The reason I'm saying all of this is..........my fear is that I'm gonna fall out of being a Square enix fan

 

I already mostly moved on but a day might come where I would stop playing or buying all modern square games ever again

Don't really know what to respond there. I'm not a Square Enix fan, I simply enjoy some of their games. I honestly don't care who the developer is, and you shouldn't care that much either.

If the game is good and looks promising to you then go for it, if it's from SE or not.

[sagman12PC 280]

Bouncing back and forth between KH3 and FF7R is why production is going so slow for BOTH games. They should focus on either KH3 or FF7R not both. Assign nomura to one project and put the other one on hold until one of them is finished. Both games are very large in terms of scale with FF7R spanning 3 full games with its episodes alone. Why should nomura have to work on both projects instead of just devoting all the time and effort into one at a time? SE management doesn't have a clue what they're doing 

[Zimomo 143]

I think that the switch to UE4 still kind of deceives us. The development restarted in 2014,not even that long ago, 2 years ago, but still, the fact that we have been knowing and expecting the game since 2013 makes us think that the game has been in development for much more. They announced it too early, yes, but they probably weren't thinking about replacing the luminous engine back then. The lack of info is indeed frustrating, but I can understand and accept that they wanted to keep 2.8 in the spotlight. I'd say that we should just wait and judge this situation only when we are truly able to see the state of the game, which should hopefully happen soon after the 2.8 release.

[BlazingSoul 130]

Who knows, maybe most of the worlds are done and maybe only the two or three are still untouched.  What I don't get is FF7R since that one was supposed to be episodic, so shouldn't episode 1 be close to finished by now? 

[sagman12PC 280]

Who knows, maybe most of the worlds are done and maybe only the two or three are still untouched.  What I don't get is FF7R since that one was supposed to be episodic, so shouldn't episode 1 be close to finished by now? 

They said that each episode would be the length of 1 full ps4 game. So for episode 1 its not just gonna be the bombing mission like the OG FF7. They're adding alot of new stuff in like explorable areas in midgar/new scenarios. That's why its taking so long to finish 

[The 13th Kenpachi 4,279]

I'll have to be the middle man here. You are pinning way too much of the blame on Nomura. You cannot guarantee what will happen to FF7 remake, how do you know what's going to happen?

 

I feel as if you saw the words 'a while off' and went into panic mode. Just wait until we see footage this year and then make judgements. I do not want FF7 remake to have a mess of a story like FF15 so I can wait a while.

 

You've even played 7 yourself, that game has the MOST unique locations out of ANY FF game. 82 I think.

 

Imagine them having to remake at least 20 of those for part one to scale as well as new locations. This remake will take a LONG time, it HAS to meet fan expectations otherwise Square Enix is literally over. If they aren't careful then it's bye bye.

 

As for KH3, that game needs to be long and satisfying to meet the expectations of the fans and wrap up the plot of 8 other games. It's not going to happen in 3-4 years honestly. Considering Luminous set them back its only been 2.5-3 years ish.

 

It is not Nomura's fault that they keep throwing shit at him, would anyone have turned down the opportunity to work on FF7 remake?

 

And FF7 remake we haven't even been waiting that long, 18 months since it first showed at E3 2015.

 

Honestly I can wait and I am SO GLAD that this man is not listening to the 'WHERE IS KH3 I NEED IT NOW' people. He's taking his sweet time and working at his own pace, trying to make the best games he can.

 

He's already said and hinted that we'll see something from both games this year so just wait until then.

[Headphone Jack 1,147]

yea it's not the best way for Nomura to go about things but tbh i'm just not as invested in the series as i used to be. my hype for the series comes and goes with the flow of news.

 

i don't get hung up on the lack of news because i assume they've got nothing of substance to show so in the meantime i play other games. i'd be surprised if there were people who were waiting and hoping for 10 years that FFvXIII/FFXV would come out at some point during that decade. 

 

i mean when do you draw the line, right? at the end of the day you've got to take a step back and realize that the release of a video game will not be the peak moment of your life. and again it's not like there aren't other video games to play in the meantime. 

[Dio Brando 5,810]

Don't really know what to respond there. I'm not a Square Enix fan, I simply enjoy some of their games. I honestly don't care who the developer is, and you shouldn't care that much either.

If the game is good and looks promising to you then go for it, if it's from SE or not.

Well what I mean by a fan is a fan of their franchises not the company itself

 

I don't like seeing Final Fantasy and KH having their reputation fall from good to shit because of mistakes that could be fixed

I'll have to be the middle man here. You are pinning way too much of the blame on Nomura. You cannot guarantee what will happen to FF7 remake, how do you know what's going to happen?

 

I feel as if you saw the words 'a while off' and went into panic mode. Just wait until we see footage this year and then make judgements. I do not want FF7 remake to have a mess of a story like FF15 so I can wait a while.

 

You've even played 7 yourself, that game has the MOST unique locations out of ANY FF game. 82 I think.

 

Imagine them having to remake at least 20 of those for part one to scale as well as new locations. This remake will take a LONG time, it HAS to meet fan expectations otherwise Square Enix is literally over. If they aren't careful then it's bye bye.

 

As for KH3, that game needs to be long and satisfying to meet the expectations of the fans and wrap up the plot of 8 other games. It's not going to happen in 3-4 years honestly. Considering Luminous set them back its only been 2.5-3 years ish.

 

It is not Nomura's fault that they keep throwing shit at him, would anyone have turned down the opportunity to work on FF7 remake?

 

And FF7 remake we haven't even been waiting that long, 18 months since it first showed at E3 2015.

 

Honestly I can wait and I am SO GLAD that this man is not listening to the 'WHERE IS KH3 I NEED IT NOW' people. He's taking his sweet time and working at his own pace, trying to make the best games he can.

 

He's already said and hinted that we'll see something from both games this year so just wait until then.

Dude where and when did I say I want VII remake now?

 

3 and a half to 4 years would be a reasonable development time

 

All I'm saying is,I don't wanna wait a decade again just to get one game is all I'm saying

 

That and I want some transparency,not in the form of "GRR TRAILERS ALL THE TIME".....just honesty with the consumers instead of vague as hell statement

 

It's not just time that VII remake needs,it needs competence and a skillful development team

 

Xenoblade and Xenoblade X are hundred times bigger than FFVII AND FFXV and they didn't take an eternity to come out or have themselves be announced a decade before debut

 

Heck with them doing VII remake in the form of episodes I don't even expect VII remake to be on the same scope as the Xenoblade games

 

Also,for as much as my prediction is not guaranteed,at least it has more likeliness to happen based on what happened than the blind optimism of it's 100$ guaranteed to be the best

Nomura might be "good" at directing KH but he can't direct a Final Fantasy game for shit

Edited January 11, 2017 by Smash Mega Koopa

[Alja 61]

I have a life and I'm not ready to wait a decade for a video game.What happened to Versus XIII should never happen again

I'm not trying to be offensive here, but if you have a life, why do you keep being hung up on it so much? Why do you need an update every few months? It's nice to have updates, of course, but there's no point (or obligation) for Nomura to give us updates for a game that isn't yet close to finished. Just like with 2.8, they will start to drop trailers and screen shots and other footage as soon as they see fit.

 

I understand the frustration and I think there were a lot of bad choices Square made - mainly announcing KH3 too early (as they have realized themselves), the whole naming pattern that confuses the hell out of casual players and the multi-platforming that ended up being on handhelds, probably the biggest mistake they made, at least in my opinion.

 

And the naming pattern thing is exactly what plays into this feeling of "I've been waiting for KH3 for a decade!" No, we haven't. We got a game in 2012 for the 3DS that easily could've been KH3 had it been released on the PS3 instead (then with KH4 ending the Xehanort saga). People are more hung up on the name of the game than the actual content. They keep releasing new KH titles every few years. In the span of 15 years, we got 8 major releases of entirely new stuff (not counting Remixes and Remasters), 0.2, albeit short, is the 9th entirely new installment.

 

Now seeing this, can we really say we've been waiting for 10 years in earnest? I say this in a joking way all the time, but in reality, it's not true. There are other titles that lead up to the story of the game that they chose to name KH3, they could've easily named Dream Drop Distance or even Birth by Sleep KH3, but they probably didn't because they've been only released on a hand-held (BBS obviously would've been a poorer choice because it's a prequel, but still not entirely impossible).

[sEUpernova 87]

Well this is a bit of a mess we've gotten ourselves into huh lol all jokes aside I'll admit I was one of the hopefuls that thought kh3 would be a late 2017 release. I mean it would be the perfect way to close out the 15th anniversary. After reading this interview though that dream has all but died and now 2018/19 is seeming more likely. As far as updates are concerned I wish he'd give us a number or something to let us know exactly where they are with development. I understand Nomura and his team are working tirelessly to provide the best content possible and I'm willing to wait (not like I have much choice anyways lol).

 

My thing is now that 2.8 is out  (in Japan at least) they no longer have any excuse to avoid discussing kh3. I know we're supposed to get the kh3 winter announcement event thingamajig, and I'm looking forward to that (whenever that may be), but they could be more transparent with development. I'm honestly glad Tabata got put in charge of XV cus if not Nomura would have at one point been in charge of 3 massive projects. That's a lot for any person to handle and when I saw Nomura was in charge of VII remake, I was happtical (happy+skeptical) just cus we know how he operates. 

 

I'm sure whenever the game comes out if Trump hasn't destroyed the world first it'll be what we've wanted and more (it better or I'm taking a trip to Japan) and then we can look back and laugh at this. In the meantime we just gotta wait (like we really have a choice). 

SN: AGDQ HYYYYYPPPPPPPEEEEEEE!!!

SSN: How bout that switch event happening tomorrow ehh ehh

[PrinceNoctis 1,011]

I'll have to be the middle man here. You are pinning way too much of the blame on Nomura. You cannot guarantee what will happen to FF7 remake, how do you know what's going to happen?

 

I feel as if you saw the words 'a while off' and went into panic mode. Just wait until we see footage this year and then make judgements. I do not want FF7 remake to have a mess of a story like FF15 so I can wait a while.

 

You've even played 7 yourself, that game has the MOST unique locations out of ANY FF game. 82 I think.

 

Imagine them having to remake at least 20 of those for part one to scale as well as new locations. This remake will take a LONG time, it HAS to meet fan expectations otherwise Square Enix is literally over. If they aren't careful then it's bye bye.

 

As for KH3, that game needs to be long and satisfying to meet the expectations of the fans and wrap up the plot of 8 other games. It's not going to happen in 3-4 years honestly. Considering Luminous set them back its only been 2.5-3 years ish.

 

It is not Nomura's fault that they keep throwing shit at him, would anyone have turned down the opportunity to work on FF7 remake?

 

And FF7 remake we haven't even been waiting that long, 18 months since it first showed at E3 2015.

 

Honestly I can wait and I am SO GLAD that this man is not listening to the 'WHERE IS KH3 I NEED IT NOW' people. He's taking his sweet time and working at his own pace, trying to make the best games he can.

 

He's already said and hinted that we'll see something from both games this year so just wait until then.

SO MUCH YES TO THIS. I complained about waiting and Nomura all the time, but when I calmed down and started thinking about it, I realised it was better for him to take his time. Especially when I think of Final Fantasy XV which is awesome but incomplete. I don't want that for KH or 7 Remake, I want pure awesomeness.

[The Deathdealer 96]

Im probably gonna get hate for this too but I agree. He seems to have his plate full and yes he made great games but that does not give him a free pass. Square shouldn't give him so many projects.

But that's not his fault though, it's Square who decides who gets the projects, also on the Versus XIII front that game development wasn't just hurt by it's own problem, it was also affected by XIII, XIV, as well as the KH spin-off titles. 

 

 

Xenoblade and Xenoblade X are hundred times bigger than FFVII AND FFXV and they didn't take an eternity to come out or have themselves be announced a decade before debut - Smash Koopa

We don't know that about the FF7 Remake, they aren't just upgrading the graphics, they are going to create something more, also map size doesn't equate to game size either, for example the towns, the cities, the NPCs. Not just grass, trees, water so on and so forth, same goes for FFXV.